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Not for nothing, but if you like Megumi Fuji, her MMA career is worth checking out.
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I'm late to the party on this stuff, but I do enjoy a old-school WWF match. Bruno Sammartino vs Ken Patera (WWWF, 3/7/77) It's so weird watching old WWWF matches with a young Howard Finkel, a fat Gorilla Monsoon, Arnold Skaaland managing Bruno instead of Backlund, and Lou Albano looking like the splitting image of Mick Foley. Knowing what we do about Finkel's porn collection, you have to wonder if he was frequenting the peep shows at Times Square during this time, or something even dodgier. As always, people watching is a huge part of the appeal of 70s WWF. Not only that but the fashion. There are some cool looking vintage shirts but a lot of crappy looking 70s suits as well. Patera was such an awesome heel. I wish people could still get over as simply and as thoroughly as Patera did. Bruno was sensational. He was a formula guy, but his intensity was through the roof and the heat he drew was incredible. Easily the best kick-punch guy ever, and I'd go as far as to call him one of the best brawlers ever. These guys were so adept at drawing heat that they didn't need to cut loose. They had the crowd eating out of their hands for the simplest stuff. The Patera highlight was the diving elbow to Bruno's back when Bruno was scrambling. That was a brilliant cutoff spot. I loved the finish as well with Bruno pummeling the shit out of Patera until Patera could no longer continue. Ending the bout was such a Monsoon thing to do. Loved it.
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A Statement From Terry Funk Regarding Dusty Rhodes (1981) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- Terry cuts a fun promo claiming Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Joe Strecher and Jim Londos must be rolling over in their graves at the thought of Dusty Rhodes being World Champion, and how that egg sucking dog Dusty Rhodes ought to win a double C cup brassiere. Fun stuff. Terry Funk Promo (1979) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- Terry is wearing braids. Looks a bit like Willie Nelson. Terry Funk (c) vs Manny Fernandez (October 21st, 1979) (Championship Wrestling From Florida -- This is quite the video package. Manny defeats Terry for the Florida Heavyweight title in controversial fashion. Terry goes crazy backstage and loses his shit when he realizes he's being filmed. Manny is about to wrestle a studio bout when Terry interrupts the match to talk with Manny. He wants Manny to admit that he lied about calling Dusty a better athlete than Terry. Manny won't do it, so Terry beats the shit out of him and screams at him with a microphone. There were very few guys better at this sort of thing than Terry Funk. Great stuff. Bunkhouse Match: Dusty Rhodes vs Terry Funk (July 27th, 1982) (Championship Wrestling From Florida) -- Dusty looks badass in a black shirt, jeans and cowboy boots with black gloves. Terry looks like he's wearing wrestling trunks over the top of long johns. This turns into a pier six involving Kendo Nagasaki, King Tonga and Dory Funk Jr. Nothing to see here. Barbed Wire Match: Dusty Rhodes & Terry Funk vs Kendo Nagasaki & King Tonga (August 21st, 1982) -- Dusty commentates over the top of some rough looking handheld footage. I could listen to Dusty talk about his matches all day long. Good stuff.
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[2004-08-08-NJPW-G1 Climax] Yoshihiro Takayama vs Kensuke Sasaki
ohtani's jacket replied to Loss's topic in August 2004
I'm not sure if this match played a part in Takayama's stroke, but the ending of the post-match interview was some uncomfortable shit. The match was everything you'd want from Takayama vs Sasaki. It didn't appear to be particularly brutal, but who knows?- 11 replies
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This match is stupidly long, and never rises above good, but at the same time it's impressive that they were able to maintain the level they did for 74 minutes. Aries isn't really my kind of worker, but I thought his selling was more consistent than Danielson. Danielson would go from selling as though he was concussed to a flurry of offense and back again. The third fall, in particular, was a bit of a mess. Aries hobbled about like his hip was hurting, which was enough to convey the damage that Danielson had done to his back and mid-section. The commentators wouldn't stop going on about blah, blah, blah, psychology, but I tuned them out with music. To the workers' credit, the match was never boring. I watched it in blocks because I can't really hack 75 minutes straight, but it never dragged. Danielson continues to remind me of Bob Backlund. I'm not sure that was what he was going for, but that's the image I get from his duck ass.
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Melodrama is one facet of wrestling. It can be done well or done poorly just like any other facet. It generally has a negative connotation, but I don't buy into that. The WWE is generally good at melodrama. Joshi workers have been traditionally good at melodrama. Lucha workers are good at working melodrama into their big matches, but generally not very good at the pre-match build side of things. A lot of the older territories had great melodrama. Indy promotions are often terrible at producing it (in my view.) It's not necessary to have melodrama in a match, however. Often you can appreciate wrestling for wrestling's sake or simple character work.
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This is one of those matches that looks awesome on paper but is a whole bunch of nothing. That's mostly because Minoru Suzuki wasn't all that yet (if he ever was?) The striking segments are fun, but the matwork is disappointing. My image of NJPW Suzuki is completely different from this. I always thought of him as a master technician that could torture guys if he wanted to, but he comes across as a fraud in '04.
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These guys match up well, but this was nothing you haven't seen before and in more exciting iterations. Cole had to hype it as some kind of amazing treat for the viewers, but unless they have short memories then this wasn't exactly a unicorn match-up. Angle has been slightly overbearing since returning the ring. He really needs to tone it down a bit and give his opponent more of the match.
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Smackdown seems so much weaker than RAW at this stage, which is something I never would have guessed heading into 2004, but I guess that's what happens when you remove half of the Smackdown Six from the roster. This didn't do a ton for me. Reigns can't deliver a decent looking beatdown, and there's a lot of retreading going on with Angle and Eddie and Angle and Rey. Eddie came to the ring in a lowrider and Angle ended up throwing white undercoat over it. It always amazes me how the WWE can fork out cash for a custom car like that and destroy it somehow. Seems like a waste considering people gave zero shits about it. Where we're at in 2004 -- Evolution are giving Orton a brutal beatdown on RAW and Angle is throwing paint on cars. The wheels are spinning off Smackdown.
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[2004-08-16-WWE-Raw] Randy Orton vs Chris Benoit
ohtani's jacket replied to Superstar Sleeze's topic in August 2004
I liked this a wee bit better than their SummerSlam match as it had the added edge of Benoit trying to win his belt back. There was a vignette between Triple H and Orton that set up Randy's story for the match, which was a "butterflies in the stomach" type narrative where Orton was meant to be afraid that he was going to lose the title back to Benoit straight away (the same psychology Evolution had used on Edge when he defeated Orton for the IC title, incidentally.) Lawler kind of shat all over that by constantly mentioning that Randy had been partying all night and was hungover, but whatever. It was obvious that Evolution would show up, and it was equally obvious that something was up with the post-match celebration. I gotta admit, I kind of liked the way the beating played out. Say what you will about Triple H, but he was good at WWE style melodramatics. It was kind of sad to see the end of the criminally underrated Evolution run (at least the version with Orton), but a blind man could have seen it wasn't going to sit well with Triple H that another member of Evolution was holding the world title.- 1 reply
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Chris Benoit defends the World Heavyweight Title The WWE is generally very good at story stuff, but they tipped their hand a bit here by foreshadowing too strongly that Orton would win the championship. It wasn't so much the fact that they kept hyping that Orton would become the youngest WWE champion ever that did it, but how cleanly Orton worked the bout. It was obvious that Orton was going to win the belt and turn face. And since those were the seeds they were laying, they worked more of a traditional bout that didn't have a lot of the trappings you expect from a WWE main event. It wasn't a bad bout, but it didn't stir a ton of emotions. I'm sure there Benoit fans who were miffed that he dropped the belt, but he'd run his race. The problem was that it was hard to get behind Orton as a babyface after all the horrible things he'd done as a heel, especially without any sort of motivation. The fact that he was a third generation wrestler, and potentially the youngest WWE champion ever, wasn't enough to make up for the terrible shit he'd done. The saving grace was the finish. Just as it seemed the champion was going to win, Orton hit the RKO from out of nowhere. It was out of the blue, but felt like a believable way for a young challenger to dethrone a veteran champ. Afterwards, Benoit forced Orton to shake his hand, further signaling the face turn.
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[2004-08-15-WWE-Summerslam] Eddy Guerrero vs Kurt Angle
ohtani's jacket replied to Microstatistics's topic in August 2004
This was a good television-level bout, but not a classic pay-per-view bout. I don't know how true the rumours are about Angle telling Eddie to sell less, but I do know that this was a decidedly Angle led match-up and it was far more workrate driven than the great Eddie performances of 2004 thus far. I'm not gonna lie, I'd rather watch Eddie brawl with JBL than have workrate bouts with Angle, which is weird to me, as I'm sure there was a time when I would have jumped at the chance to see Eddie vs Angle over Eddie vs a big guy, but this felt like a step down from Eddie's amazing work against Brock and JBL. -
This was a solid match heading into the Triple Threat match at SummerSlam. It was babyface vs babyface, but fairly heated as there had been an altercation between Edge and Jericho on some kind of Piper's Pit segment that Jericho was doing at the time. Jericho had become an excellent WWE worker by this point, but he shows far more personality as a heel than a face. There was a chance that he might turn during this feud but it was mostly a tease at this stage. The match itself was a step down from the Edge vs Orton bouts, but it served its purpose to have the two faces beat the crap out of each other prior to the Triple Threat match and there was a twist at the end where Jericho refused to help Edge when Batista attacked. I don't know who the road agents were at the time, but somebody loved the foot on the ropes finish in the summer of '04
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This was Angle's first match in a Smackdown ring since he lost the title to Eddie at WrestleMania, and it's a decent workout. The objective is to send a message to Eddie, who he's about to face in 10 days time at SummerSlam. Hass' trajectory is moving in the complete opposite direction of Shelton Benjamin. He's so generic that they have to team him with a female valet. He's still a decent wrestler, but he's got a one way ticket to Nowheresville with this gimmick. Angle does Angle things, and we're set for the Eddie rematch.
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[2004-08-08-NJPW-G1 Climax] Genichiro Tenryu vs Yuji Nagata
ohtani's jacket replied to KB8's topic in August 2004
It warms my heart to see that Tenryu matches are still worth watching in 2004. There wasn't a ton of substance to this match, but it was fun watching Tenryu in action. The pop trend is even more egregious in Japan than it is in the US, especially after all those years of watching guys sell the crap out of matches in All Japan. The running knee spot is badass, but it doesn't make up for the fact that Nagata was a dick for no selling the hurricanrana. This was more or less breadcrumbs when it comes to a truly great match, but it's Tenyru so there are enough worthwhile moments to make it worth your 12 minutes. -
I absolutely love this match up. I think it's one of the best match ups in the business in 2004. They go hard in every match and the balance between wrestling, striking and big moves is damn near perfect. We were guaranteed a winner here after their previous match in 3PW went to a time limit draw, and they didn't disappoint. The only thing that bothered me was the cheap finish. Other than that, they put on a clinic. I'll say it again, but it's really hard for me to put Bryan Danielson ahead of AJ Styles at this point in their careers.
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Now this is what I call a trios match. The workers had one goal in mind here and that was to set up Santo vs. Perro Jr, and they brought their A-games to produce the type of heated trios you only see during the build to a big match. Perro finally embraced his rudo role and was the nastiest he's been thus far. Everyone else chipped in with intense brawling and finally CMLL feels like it has some sort of direction.
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Orton winning a battle royal to become the number one contender is a little weak, but he looked killer in this match, especially when he was working with Jericho. This was another awesome Evolution match with Flair continuing to do a fantastic job of trading shots with the babyfaces and Batista continuing to grow in his role as a beast. The finish was extremely well done and a great way to set up Orton's title shot. He looked like a top 10 guy in the world at this point.
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I was a big fan of Lizmark in AAA.
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Larry Z was good too.
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My favorite will always be GZA's "I slayed MC's back in the rec room era/My style broke motherfuckin backs like Ken Patera." There are a surprising amount of Ted DiBiase references in hip hop songs.
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I was interested in how much matwork they would do in this, and the answer was a little. If you squint a bit, it almost looks like Kawada is fighting Yamazaki, which would have been a pretty cool match up come to think of it. The idea of Kawada vs shooters has always been tantalizing to me, but it would have had to have happened in the mid-90s. Kawada looked washed in 2004. He’d done his dash in the immediate post-split period. Nagai was a fairly lousy pro-wrestler as evidenced by his weak selling in this bout, and even weaker facial expressions, but they could have worked a much better bout if Kawada had brought more energy to the bout.
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I had high hopes for this as Kanemaru is one of my favorite NOAH guys, but this was disappointing. You could probably argue that it got things right in terms of fan engagement, however it was a crappy bout in terms of detail. Part of that was because it was tailored towards a Dome crowd, but I couldn’t shake the feeling that Kanemaru was out of his element having a big singles match. The result came across flat to me when it should have been a huge moment. The crowd seemed happy, though.
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If you ever need proof that Santo is different, watch his return bouts to a promotion. He didn’t lift this match to any great heights, but his work within the bout was on a completely different level than any other CMLL worker. Everyone works harder when Santo is around and the energy is raised. Even the crowd responds. The only thing that can really handicap him is the booking and the shortened television format bouts.