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Yeah, he deserves a spot for his pre-Pancrase work. I don't think his WWF work hurts his case, either. Has anyone revisited his boring, long ass fights with Funaki in PWFG? Those were nearly the death of me twenty years ago.

I don't understand that Blue Demon ranking at all. Is it because of the movies? Did people mean to vote for Blue Demon Jr instead? Why did Blue Demon make the list but El Santo didn't? Bestia and Cortez lasted longer than I expected. Hell, it's Shocker. Good for you, buddy. Le Petit Prince? It's a start I guess.

I'll make it a point to revisit them.

At this point, top 500 feels likes a victory. I was pleasantly surprised by the number of people who voted for Cien Caras. I don't know how many of those votes were based on his in-ring work, but he was a smart worker who was hugely charismatic.

Well, I'm learning something between this and the pencil girl.

I'm guessing it's John Morrison. I've never watched a John Morrison match in my life.

12 people must really like that Megumi Fujii vs. Yoshida match. Killer Kowalski was higher than I would have thought. Don Leo Jonathan was a nice surprise too. Not a guy you hear a lot of people talk about. How did Octagon get that high? Is Johnny Blackcraft Caballero Downunder Elite Consejo Impact Morrison Mundo Nitro Onyx TV an actual ring-name? Oki gets some love. El Hijo del Fishman was nominated but Fishman wasn't? Dutch Mantell, ouch. The days of the 80s sets are well and truly behind us. Robert Gibson I kind of get. I don't think you can expect modern kids to like the Rock 'n' Roll Express. El Samurai -- brutal.

I'm changing my tune on the Rudge placement. I re-read the comment I made about him 10 years ago in his nomination thread, and I realized there's not that much Rudge footage left in the archives. While it would be interesting to see Rudge matches from the 60s, I'm not that big of a fan of his early 70s work and don't fully appreciate him until he shaves the head, grows his moustache and becomes a bonafide asskicker. If I could get any footage out of the archives, it would probably be his 70s matches against Pete Roberts. Rudge was one of those workers who wrestled in the higher paying overseas territories and would return to the UK every now and again for dates. Not a high volume guy. Would have been nice if he'd finished higher, but it doesn't hurt as much as it did a few hours ago.

Cien Caras & MS-1 vs. Satanico & Mascara Ano 2000 (Relevos Increibles, AAA 8/6/93) I see where they're going with this -- a Casas vs. MS-1 hair vs. hair match. I'm onboard with that. I wonder if Satanico vs. MA2K was ever in the cards. This started off with a bunch of stalling, then Satanico and MS-1 worked a clean exchange full of castigos. It was awesome to see the two square off like that. They'd been on opposite sides before during MS-1's 1988 and Satanico's 1990 tecnico turns, but I doubt those encounters involved much technical work. It was short-lived, however, as the Dinamitas refused to fight each other, and this basically turned into Infernales vs Dinamitas. Caras continued his awesome work with MS-1, and MS-1 bled like a champ. A neat piece of business.

Not gonna lie. Terry Rudge hurts a bit.

I'm just gonna think of her as a Six Seven Numacchi.

I still don't understand who Lulu Pencil is after reading all of that.

Hector vs. Jose Lothario was good shit. I can can see the Eddie comparisons.

Kinda bummed to see Ashura Hara drop. Another guy I should have voted for. Who, or what, is a Lulu Pencil?

I think Lizmark's case boils down to his AAA work against Parka and Jerry Estrada. That's when we see Lizmark at the peak of his powers. There aren't a lot of great Lizmark matches or performances outside of that. Not saying he wasn't capable. We just don't have it on tape. Not that it makes much of a difference. Unless there are a lot of votes for the high end lucha candidates, it doesn't seem like this demographic cares much for lucha, or older wrestling in general.

There were some fun pairings in this drop. I imagine Umanosuke Ueda and Pierroth Jr would have no shortage of topics to converse about. Heck, they'd make a hell of a team. Poor Mimi. At least she ranked this time. I'm surprised that Angel Azteca didn't make the list in 2006. Victor Zangiev is a win for this year's edition. Jose Lothario, Bas Rutten and Ryuma Go is the best trio thus far. I'm kind of shocked Mile Zrno made it this far. Hana Kimura is a sad one. If you like the theatrical side of wrestling, there aren't 500 wrestlers better than Roger Delaporte. I wanted Inca Peruano to do better. Is that Super Delfin? I love me some Delfin. We now live in a world where Vince McMahon is a better pro-wrestler than Tibor Szakacs. I wonder how Cornette would feel about making the list. I guess he'd get a kick out of Gypsy Joe placing right above him. I dig Black Buffalo, but how did he get 10 votes?

OK, I see!

#681 Yumi Fukawa Did she get nominated? I can't find a thread.

Nice to see Les Kellett get so many votes. I'm pretty sure every luchador that's dropped so far is better than Niebla, and Rayo for that matter. I'm surprised that Cesca is so popular. Not only did he get more votes than Ben Chemoul, Billy Catanzaro didn't even get nominated.

Nice to see Pimpi and Cassandro getting some votes. KB('s write up about Hector Guerrero has me fired up. I didn't know that cad is a WoS fan.

Alas poor Caswell Martin, I knew him. I am kinda happy that he was sandwiched between WING Kanemura and Mami Kumano, though. I mean that's pretty cool. I always felt as though Kumano laid the groundwork for bitchy wrestlers like Mima Shimoda and Takako Inoue.

Sid was on my short list but was culled. Deserves more recognition. If people like Breaks, they should check out Cooper as well.

There was a Horst match from the 60s in the French footage, fwiw.

If you're going to watch one Steve Veidor match, make it Veidor vs Gwyn Davies. One of the best matches of the 70s.

I dunno what was going on with the WWE in May, but it doesn't seem like there was anything worth watching. What a boring cage match. Who was the road agent for this crap? WrestleMania is looking more and ,more like an Undertaker carry job. Maybe the best of his career.