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Between the Sheets #87 (March 15-21, 1997)
blueminister replied to KrisZ's topic in Publications and Podcasts
Regarding Shawn's "favored nations" clause: Bruce Prichard did seem to make a point on the Montreal podcast of not saying that Bret's 96 contract made him the highest-paid WWF wrestler. (Also he says that the Lloyd's of London letter never happened FWIW.) -
Between the Sheets #77 (January 4-11, 1999)
blueminister replied to KrisZ's topic in Publications and Podcasts
make it a rule to limit yourselves to one show audio clip per week, the weird fascination with the nitro party and goldberg-liz skits didn't translate at all -
Indeed. It doesn't matter one bit today in WWE though, thanks to the infamous Michael Cole "For the win/championship !" call, which has spread to NXT too BTW. In fairness to Cole, this isn't a novelty. "ANDHEGOTHIMNOHEDIDNT" was Vince's got-to move as an announcer. He even took it to hilarious lengths when he somberly began to eulogize Hulk Hogan's career mid-Earthquake splash.
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Shawn didn't fire Sid, he just gave him the night off iirc. (Sid rebelled because he is all about earning his paycheck and working scheduled dates.)
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Raw needs bigger ratings to offset their less desirable demographics, comparing Raw numbers favorably to Breaking Bad misses the point entirely.
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Montreal Screwjob: Who do you side with?
blueminister replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
Although as a strictly academic point I've been wondering how the creative control cause would apply to a contract that one party has openly declared its intention to break. Was Bret effectively working on a show-to-show basis? Ultimately the only fault I find with Bret is that he kept the program running instead of going into seclusion and getting lawyered up the minute Vince reneged. But then again we're back to the "wrestlers are whipped as hell" deal.- 109 replies
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Montreal Screwjob: Who do you side with?
blueminister replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
Any time you want insight into the whipped Dr. Seuss carny mentality of pro-wrestling listen to someone argue that Montreal was the right thing to do.- 109 replies
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The Jim Ross Is A Grouchy Hateful Vile Human Being thread
blueminister replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
You certainly have strong feelings about stupid bullshit lately. "Cringe inducing hate speech?" Really? -
So has Vince had a mini-stroke? Or is this just the first time I've noticed that he's no longer wearing his age well?
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
blueminister replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
Fan? He's Doink the Clown's half-brother. -
The NAO pre-DX as brutal smart-aleck chickenshits was a nice little run. Them failing to complete their ring entrance twice at that one In Your House because the Road Warriors kept bucking at them was great.
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lol at dave throwing out the expasterated "...it is what it is, you know?" about his broken foot like it was a bit of triple h booking
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Given what we know about Bischoff's negotiation style from Jericho's book and the entire contractual giveaway bonanza that was WCW under his watch I have no problem believing this. Bischoff really didn't get fiduciary responsibility and considered the Turner coffers something to impress people with.
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tbh i'm wondering if they're using the fall of the house of rhodes as a gradual reintroduction for WAR GAMES but that seems too good an idea
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Hero will always have the CZW/ROH feud going for him, just unimpeachable indy heel stuff on the level of Punk trolling Juggalos in IWA-MS.
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
blueminister replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
I'm not 100%, but I think "shoot" in "shootfighting" and its prowres slang derivation derive from the actual wrestling terminology of "shoot" as going in for a tackle. Hence "shootfighting" = strike-based combat sport with grappling elements, various MMA-exclusive teams and groups that incorporate "shoot" into their name, etc. I may be missing your point here but I don't think Tenay's necessarily exposing the biz. -
Can we just call Samoa Joe "that poor fucker" now?
blueminister replied to Bix's topic in Pro Wrestling
I think MRV wrote an article where he confirmed it but it was a long time ago. -
Can we just call Samoa Joe "that poor fucker" now?
blueminister replied to Bix's topic in Pro Wrestling
I thought it was pretty well established that he was legit fired personally by Vince because of skittishness with Mattel and the Linda Senate campaign, but not necessarily at their request. With the possible exception of the Jericho showoff match, Daniel Bryan was booked stupidly on NXT. At best the supposed NXT "push" was confusing for the audience he still had to sell himself to. Heck, the head announcer was allowed to tee off on him at will. I'll never believe WWE has got so bad at their jobs that that was their idea of getting him over, as opposed to putting him in his place/making sure he'd do business/whatever. -
Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
blueminister replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
They wasted a lot of money accessorizing a guy who just ended up a face midcarder that threw nerfs into the audience -
Because she was mentally disturbed with a history of attacking co-workers, celebrated her new employment in pro wrestling by getting pregnant and didn't make them any money.
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I love Twin Peaks but it imploded after its first story arc and it hasn't even had a shaky claim as a top 10 TV show since cable dramas became a thing.