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The problem is the history of UK wrestling hasn't been recorded, there very little known about any UK based wrestler. The latest wrestling observer with the history piece on Jerry Lawler is a case in point. Could any of the UK historians write a piece on on any UK wrestler, as in-depth as the piece done on Lawler was.
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I think one of the big problem’s is, who are the UK wrestling Historians, correct me if I'm wrong, but how many have actually followed the scene though the 50’s 60’s 70’s and 80’s. I would guess most of them are in their mid 30’s and their knowledge amounts to reading dynamite’s book, the wrestling by Simon Garfield and watching repeat’s of world of sport on the wrestling channel.
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The wrestling heritage site make’s reference to Shirley Crabtree early career, where he wrestled as the blond Adonis, Mr universe, Yukon Eric, and the Battling Guardsman. He was also the independent promoters British heavyweight Champion in the early 1960’s. I cant find any more info on his early career, but it look’s like he had two runs in wrestling. It may help his case if we could find more info on his first run.
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Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
But the matches' are the same quality whether you know the wrestler's opinions or not. In the quote you gave "Rock 'n' Roll, Terry Taylor, and Ted Dibiase taught me that in Mid South, and Buddy Rose taught both Mary and me that in the AWA" So do you have a lower respect for Dibiase, Tayor, Rock 'n' Roll and Rose because they taught Shawn the wrong way, according to how you view wrestling should be. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Page 136, Heartbreak & Tragedy: The Shawn Michaels story. That mindset pretty much misses completely the idea of a role, that it'll take more to knock down Andre than Ray Rougeau, that the heel tag champs should be protected in a different way than the Conquistadors, and that them falling down matters to the match way more when the babyfaces have to earn it. That having an exciting match doesn't necessarily mean you have a GOOD match. So those are Shawn's thoughts and my problems with them. That I think Demos gave very well in that match and very smartly and that it was an exciting match with more meaning and resonance than a lot of other Rockers matches from the era is really beyond the point. Ok your highlighting your problems with Shawn, because of his opinions he's expressed in a book. A book according to most accounts he had very little to do with, so who knows how much of it are his word's or not. Even if those are his thought's and you disagree with his view's. Um what does that have to do with this thread about where he would land in your top hundred. Shawn's backstage politics and antics and view's on his own matches should have nothing to do with how we view his in ring work. Also you know he is allowed to have his own opinion's, just because you disagree it doesn't make you opinions more valid or his less valid. Don't forget there's more than one way to work a match and every worker's going to have different opinions on what's the best way to work. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Of the top of my head i have no issue losing Survivor Series 1988 November 24 The Powers of Pain, The Rockers, The British Bulldogs, The Hart Foundation, and Jim Powers & Paul Roma VS Demolition Ax & Smash, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Nikolai Volkoff & Boris Zhukov, Raymond & Jacques Rougeau, and The Conquistadors Survivor Series 1989 November 23 Ultimate Warrior, Jim Neidhart, & The Rockers VS Bobby Heenan, Andre the Giant, Haku, & Arn Anderson Survivor Series 1990 November 22 Rick Martel, Warlord, Hercules, & Paul Roma VS Jake Roberts, Jimmy Snuka, & The Rockers Survivor Series 1994 November 23 Razor Ramon, The 1-2-3 Kid, Davey Smith, Headshrinkers Fatu & Sionne Vs Shawn Michaels, Diesel, Owen Hart, Jim Niedhart, & Jeff Jarrett Survivor Series 1995 November 19 Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson, Davey Smith, & Psycho Sid VS Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Razor Ramon, & Dean Douglas Survivor Series 2005 November 27 John Bradhsaw Layfield, Rey Mysterio, Batista, Randy Orton, & Bobby Lashley VS Shawn Michaels, Carlito, The Big Show, Kane & Chris Masters Survivor Series 2006 November 26 Triple H, Shawn Michaels, CM Punk, Matt & Jeff Hardy VS Randy Orton, Edge, Mike Knox, Gregory Helms, & Johnny Nitro 12/4/06 Matt Hardy/Jeff Hardy/Shawn Michaels/Triple H vs. Randy Orton/Edge/Joey Mercury/Johnny Nitro Survivor Series 2008 23 November Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, The Great Khali, & Cryme Tye beat John Bradshaw Layfield, The Miz, John Morrison, MVP, & Kane (18:13) in an "elimination" match. Michaels, Mysterio, & Khali were the survivors. 10/25/09 Chris Jericho/Kane/Tyson Kidd/David Hart Smith/Finlay/Matt Hardy/R-Truth vs. Triple H/Shawn Michaels/Big Show/Kofi Kingston/Jack Swagger/Mark Henry/Cody Rhodes These matches i will need to re watch, i report back if i think any of them belong and what merritt they have for his case. Survivor Series 2002 November 17 elimination chamber match Survivor Series 2003 November 16 Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Christian, Scott Steiner, & Mark Henry VS Shawn Michaels, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Bubba & D-Von Dudley 4/12/04 Triple H/Randy Orton/Batista/Ric Flair vs. Shelton Benjamin/Chris Benoit/Mick Foley/Shawn Michaels No Way Out 2008 February 17 elimination chamber -
As i'm part of the reason why this thread is here, i thought i bring my thoughts over from the shawn thread. Agree disagree, this is going to be my only post on thread. I'm not going to waste anymore time watching Kane matches, Life is way too short. I thought i better outline what i liked about the Kane vs. Michaels match. Now let me make it absolutely clear, that in no way do i think this is a great match. The truth is, i hate Kane as a wrestler, and his whole gimmick of an unstoppable monster. It bores me whenever i see him wrestling, or whatever it is he trying to do in the ring. So when he wrestled Michaels and had an fast paced give and take match, i found it that much more enjoyable than the normal Kane snooze fest. Also there were some cool spot's in the match, like the back flip out of the corner in to the jumping ddt. Kane killing Michaels outside with the table and Shawn running in to the big boot when he's trying to do the super kick. The big complaint seems to be Michaels chops in the match, now i never understood the issue with them. He working within the WWF/E frame, the fan's react to them and if you can get the fans to react without killing your opponent isn't that a bonus. Why chop like Genichiro Tenryu if you don't have to? The fans watching don't care and i bet Kane isn't saying, gee you didn't make my chest bleed tonight next time hit me harder Shawn. So that's the basic reason i like the match, not love it but like it.
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Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I thought i better outline what i liked about the Kane vs. Michaels match. Now let me make it absolutely clear, that in no way do i think this is a great match. The truth is, i hate Kane as a wrestler, and his whole gimmick of an unstoppable monster. It bores me whenever i see him wrestling, or whatever it is he trying to do in the ring. So when he wrestled Michaels and had an fast paced give and take match, i found it that much more enjoyable than the normal Kane snoozefest. Also there were some cool spot's in the match, like the back flip out of the corner in to the jumping ddt. Kane killing Michaels outside with the table and Shawn running in to the big boot when he's trying to do the super kick. The big complaint seems to be Michaels chops in the match, now i never understood the issue with them. He working within the WWF/E frame, the fan's react to them and if you can get the fans to react without killing your opponent isn't that a bonus. Why chop like Genichiro Tenryu if you don't have to? The fans watching don't care and i bet Kane isn't saying, gee you didn't make my chest bleed tonight next time hit me harder Shawn. So that's the basic reason i like the match, not love it but like it. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I think Shawn has a strong number of super "memorable" matches in large part because he's been pushed and promoted as "the showstoppa!" and constantly put in the position to have those sort of matches. But in terms of volume of quality he is well below a lot of people, including people with shorter careers. But that argument also go's to the guys and gals in japan, who also are put in a position to have great matches and it's not brought up as a negative against Misawa and co. Volume of quality is an interesting point, as compared to Bret Hart and Vader his volume i would suggest, blows there's away. he also kept up a higher level than most for over 26 years which must count in his favour. I thought Shawn was average to bad from the time of his comeback forward so I totally disagree with you there. I am not a huge Bret fan and actually like Vader less than some here. Both have a higher volume of good matches and are - I think - inarguably more versatile than Shawn. I don't know i've been looking back at bret's run, i'm up to 1995 and there's lot of good matches' but not that many great matches' on my list. Looking forward i'm guessing there's only about 4 more great matches to go on for his list. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
No prob's, i look forward to reading your list's guy's. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Ok that's fair, as for the write up, cut the match's you don't think that belong and if i disagree i do do a write up for it's inclusion. As there's a lot of matches on that list, and that's with out the AWA stuff. Other parameter's which need to be addressed is only matches which are available to watch, and not for example Andre mythical matches, were he was german suplexed by Danny Hodge in japan in the early 70's. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I think Shawn has a strong number of super "memorable" matches in large part because he's been pushed and promoted as "the showstoppa!" and constantly put in the position to have those sort of matches. But in terms of volume of quality he is well below a lot of people, including people with shorter careers. But that argument also go's to the guys and gals in japan, who also are put in a position to have great matches and it's not brought up as a negative against Misawa and co. Volume of quality is an interesting point, as compared to Bret Hart and Vader his volume i would suggest, blows there's away. he also kept up a higher level than most for over 26 years which must count in his favour. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Ok lets move this back on track if you want to continue with the debate. Shake hands and all that? -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Well lets get a few things straight dummy. The SHAWN MATCH IS FUCKING AWFUL. Okay see I could of found some legit shitty Kane matches and shoved them in there. The Shane Mcmahon matches were better than that shitty ass Shawn Micheals match. But lets do this. WRONG The match told a good story with good selling from both men. Oh and Vader's shit looks like it hurts. No dummy, I actually watch matches instead of waiting for Scott Keith star ratings. Kane put in a great performance playing Spike Dudley for Big Show. They actually tell a good story about Kane being overpowered and out monstered for the first time. Also they actually look like they are hurting each other. As opposed to a balding, gimpy pretty boy throwing awful looking chops for twenty minutes as Kane tries to sell it. Shit I don't like a single other Kane vs Show match. They usually have terrible chemistry working against each other. But this match is damn good. But then again I watched it. Summerslam 1999 Or maybe I actually watched the match. Which is a very good short TV match with Viscera hitting some nice power spots on Kane and then bumping big for the chokeslam. Of course I actually watched the match. Its a million times better since the offense looks good and Kane selling for Finlay does not look ridiculous. Far better since Mankind makes Kane look like an actual monster, while getting himself over. As opposed to forcing a monster to sell for shitty limp wristed chops. Which makes both matches far better than the Shawn match, which is awful. One of the worst matches either Kane or Shawn have ever had. As for the remaining five. Kane vs Chris Jericho Survivor Series 2000 Kane vs Edge from November 98 Kane vs Triple H Judgment Day 02 Kane vs Rhyno from April 01 Kane vs Rob Van Dam Summerslam 03 I could not finish before since my nephews were leaving. Ok lets calm things down here, in my other post i was going for humour, which seems to have been lost. What's with the name calling i didn't attack you, only your list. I can see why "Please if you going to say something, think it though beforehand that list is embarrassing. " upset you but it was meant in fun, tongue in cheek. Sorry if i caused offence that wasn't my intent. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I'm disregarding your opinion completely for just tossing away the backlash 08 match like that. It's great. That you come off like a rude jerk for no reason doesn't help. Seriously read through this note from start to bottom and really take a look at why people are saying what they're saying. It could just be that you look at wrestling differently than a lot of us do. But you're just listing off matches or dismissing them with a few words. Wasn't one of the big arguments in this note that we SHOULD push Shawn with great matches, because if we break him down with things he does well and things he does poorly, it doesn't look nearly as good on paper as if you look at his "great matches?" Um as 'Dr. Reverend Victator' didn't put any reasons why theses matches were better than the the Shawn match. I didn't feel i had to go in-depth on why i disagreed with his choices, and i choose to answer in joke form. Reading back over, the last line does come across a bit jerky, but then i did put a smiley face to show humour. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I can name twenty Kane matches better than that. That Shawn match was one of his worst ever. Please do vs Vader No Way Out 98 vs Steve Austin night after King of the Ring 98 vs Big Show Fully Loaded 99 with X-Pac vs Undertaker and Big Show with Undertaker vs Big Show and Chris Jericho Smackdown before Survivor Series 2009 vs Undertaker Night of Champions 2001 vs CM Punk Smackdown last month with Big Show vs Viscera and Val Venis some Raw in early 06 vs Kurt Angle Smackdown episode in late 2001 vs Fit Finlay September 14 2007 Smackdown vs Mankind Survivor Series 97 vs Mankind January 11 1999 Raw vs Albert Smackdown in 2001 This is the first match they had that Kane won. vs Umaga 10/9/06 vs Chavo Guerrero Backlash 2008 I can post the last five later if you want. Took a little longer since I wanted to check matches I had not seen in awhile. I also wanted to keep it to actual good matches, not just better than the Shawn match. So i guess you can't give me a list with 20 better match's then vs Vader, no it sucked ass vs Steve Austin night after King of the Ring 98, yep a good match vS Big show, You smoking something funny with X-Pac vs Undertaker and Big Show, Can you give me a date or show so i can check it out Undertaker Night of Champions 2001, i guess you mean 2010 and no it was not a good match vs CM Punk Smackdown last month, i've stopped watching smackdown so i will have to check it out. with Big Show vs Viscera and Val Venis some Raw in early 06, Ok now i know your messing with me. vs Kurt Angle Smackdown episode in late 2001, vaguely remembering it being good. vs Fit Finlay September 14 2007 Smackdown, good but not better vs Mankind Survivor Series 97, still not better vs Mankind January 11 1999 Raw, ok not good vs Albert Smackdown in 2001 This is the first match they had that Kane won, Good match from memory will need to re watch. vs Umaga 10/9/06, Nope average vs Chavo Guerrero Backlash 2008, Not impressed Please if you going to say something, think it though beforehand that list is embarrassing. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I am not not crazy high on Sting, though I do think he was a good worker. Still if you are going to include a lot of those Shawn matches it is hard to see any legit argument for eliminating something like Sting v. Flair from the first Clash. There's no reason not to list it if you are listing all his match's, but by itself it doesn't add to his case. That's why i asked for a list of his work, so you can get an overview of his career and see if he is really better or not. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Yes the vader/Sting matches are great, and the Meng match is fun to good at best. I'm not saying Sting hasn't been in a lot of enjoyable matches. But when talking about the top 100, you need to have a lot higher output of classic matches. I just don't think in my option that Sting's best is as good as Michaels best, add to that Michaels just has a higher level of good matches than sting. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
Pick any match vs. Vader. There better than Michaels. I love the Sing/Vader feud, but better than Michaels best against Foley, Taker, Benoit (wrestlemania) the Summerslam ladder match, i just don't see it. Also my point is, ok sting has had some great matches. But he need's a great wrestler to bring the best out of him, he's not a great wrestler who brings the best out of others. Also how many classic matches has sing had, you got Vader but who else. The Flair match's are average at best, um im drawing a blank here, the tag againt the Steiners? -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I can name twenty Kane matches better than that. That Shawn match was one of his worst ever. Please do -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
The kane match is only really on here as an example of a good Kane match, not a great classic match. As Kane is notorious for being in bad matches for most of his career. I thought it would highlight Shawn's ability, to carry someone of limited ability to a watchable contest. I don't think there anything wrong with the Kennedy match's, but i do concede if they were took of the list, they wouldn't be missed. I didn't list all his ppv match's, only the match's that are good, or have a point to make. -
Would Shawn Michaels Make Your Personal Top 100?
ragemaster replied to Dylan Waco's topic in The Microscope
I won't argue where Shawn should be on a top 100, but looking at some of the names people have rated above him. It just seems to be grab a wrestler with a good reputation and puting them on the list above him. With no thought giving over to why they better. I haven't done a full list, (If i've missed any good single matches, please add) as i left out most of his WWF tag matches and his AWA run, but i've put all his good to to great matches in his WWF/WWE run. When rating wrestlers on work rate, i guess the best way to rate them is on the matches that you watched or seen live. It would be interesting to see match listing for the following wrestlers, as i just don't see how they can rate above shawn on the matches available for them. Sting Pillman Savage Steven Regal Andre DiBiase Hennig Terry Gordy Tito Santana Greg Valentine Shawn Matches 1988 Survivor Series 1988 November 24 The Powers of Pain, The Rockers, The British Bulldogs, The Hart Foundation, and Jim Powers & Paul Roma VS Demolition Ax & Smash, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Nikolai Volkoff & Boris Zhukov, Raymond & Jacques Rougeau, and The Conquistadors Saturday Night's Main Event October 31, 1989 The Rockers VS Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard in three falls. Survivor Series 1989 November 23 Ultimate Warrior, Jim Neidhart, & The Rockers VS Bobby Heenan, Andre the Giant, Haku, & Arn Anderson 1989 Saturday Night's Main Event February 16, 1989 Anderson & Tully Blanchard VS The Rockers WrestleMania V April 2, 1989 Akeem & Big Boss Man VS The Rockers SummerSlam 1989 Rick Martel, Jacques & Raymond Rougeau VS The Rockers & Tito Santana 11/25/89 Rockers vs. Hart Foundation 1990 April 23, 1990 The Hart Foundation VS The Rockers 4/28/90 Hart Foundation vs. Rockers Survivor Series 1990 November 22 Rick Martel, Warlord, Hercules, & Paul Roma VS Jake Roberts, Jimmy Snuka, & The Rockers 1991 The Rockers VS The Orient Express Royal Rumble 1991 3/17/91 Shawn Michaels vs. Mr. Perfect 4/?/91 Shawn Michaels vs. Kato Wrestlemania VII The Rockers VS The Barbarian & Haku Survivor Series 1991 November 28 The Nasty Boys & The Beverly Brothers VS The Rockers & The Bushwhackers 1992 WrestleMania VIII April 5, 1992 Shawn Michaels pinned Tito Santana April, 19, 1992 WWF World Champ Randy Savage pinned Shawn Michaels October 27, 1992 Shawn Michaels pinned Davey Smith Survivor Series 1992 November 25 WWF World Champ Bret Hart VS Shawn Michaels 1993 WWF I-C Champ Shawn Michaels VS Marty Jannetty Royal Rumble 1993 WrestleMania IX Tatanka beat Shawn Michaels King of the Ring 1993 June 13 WWF I-C Champ Shawn Michaels pinned Crush 7/19/93 Shawn Michaels vs Marty Jannetty 1994 WrestleMania X March 20, 1994 WWF I-C Champ Razor Ramon beat Shawn Michaels 8/1/94 Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon 10/30/94 Shawn Michaels/Diesel vs. Razor Ramon/123 Kid Survivor Series 1994 November 23 Razor Ramon, The 1-2-3 Kid, Davey Smith, Headshrinkers Fatu & Sionne Vs Shawn Michaels, Diesel, Owen Hart, Jim Niedhart, & Jeff Jarrett 1995 Royal Rumble 1995 WrestleMania XI April 2, 1995 WWF World Champ Diesel VS Shawn Michaels 3/6/95 Shawn Michaels vs. Davey Boy Smith King of the Ring 1995 June 25 Shawn Michaels VS Kama In Your House July 23, 1995 Shawn Michaels VS Jeff Jarrett SummerSlam 1995 August 27 WWF I-C Champ Shawn Michaels VS Razor Ramon In Your House #3 1995 September 24 Diesel & Shawn Michaels VS Yokozuna & Davey Smith 11/20/95 Shawn Michaels vs. Owen Hart Survivor Series 1995 November 19 Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson, Davey Smith, & Psycho Sid VS Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Razor Ramon, & Dean Douglas 1996 Royal Rumble 1996 Shawn Michaels vs Sycho Sid In Your House #6 February 18, 1996 Shawn Michaels VS Owen Hart 3/4/96 Shawn Michaels vs. 123 Kid WrestleMania XII March 31, 1996 Shawn Michaels VS Bret Hart Good Friends, Better Enemies April 28 WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels VS Diesel Beware of Dog May 26, 1996 WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels VS Davey Smith 6/24/96 Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty King of the Ring 1996 June 23 WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels VS Davey Smith International Incident July 21, 1996 Vader, Owen Hart, & Davey Smith VS Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson & Sycho Sid SummerSlam 1996 August 18 WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels VS Vader August 24, 1996 in Toronto, ON WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels VS Goldust in a "ladder" match Mind Games September 22, 1996 WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels VS Mankind Survivor Series 1996 November 17 Sycho Sid VS Shawn Michaels 1997 05/26/97 Shawn Michaels/Steve Austin vs. Davey Boy Smith/Owen Hart 6/2/97 Shawn Michaels/Steve Austin vs. Legion of Doom King of the Ring 1997 June 8 Shawn Michaels VS Steve Austin 8/11/97 Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind Ground Zero September 7, 1997 Shawn Michaels VS The Undertaker One Night Only September 27, 1997 Shawn Michaels TKO Davey Smith Badd Blood 1997 October 5 Shawn Michaels VS The Undertaker hell in a cell 10/20/97 Shawn Michaels vs. Owen Hart Survivor Series 1997 November 9 Shawn Michaels VS Bret Hart D-Generation X December 7, 1997 Ken Shamrock VS WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels 12/29/97 Shawn Michaels vs Owen Hart 1998 Royal Rumble 1998 January 18 WWF World Champ Shawn Michaels VS The Undertaker in a casket WrestleMania XIV March 29, 1998 Steve Austin VS Shawn Michaels 2002 SummerSlam 2002 August 25 Shawn Michaels VS Triple H in a "non-sanctioned" match. Survivor Series 2002 November 17 elimination chamber match 2003 WrestleMania XIX March 30, 2003 Shawn Michaels VS Chris Jericho Bad Blood 2003 June 15 Ric Flair VS Shawn Michaels 7/21/03 Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels SummerSlam 2003 August 24 elimination chamber Unforgiven 2003 September 21 Randy Orton VS Shawn Michaels Armageddon 2003 December 14 Shawn Michaels VS Batista Survivor Series 2003 November 16 Randy Orton, Chris Jericho, Christian, Scott Steiner, & Mark Henry VS Shawn Michaels, Rob Van Dam, Booker T, Bubba & D-Von Dudley 12/29/03 Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels 2004 Royal Rumble 2004 World Champ Triple H VS Shawn Michaels last man standing" match 2/16/04 Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels WrestleMania XX March 14, 2004 Chris Benoit vs Triple H VS Shawn Michaels triple threat 3/29/04 Shawn Michaels/Chris Benoit vs. Batista/Ric Flair 4/12/04 Triple H/Randy Orton/Batista/Ric Flair vs. Shelton Benjamin/Chris Benoit/Mick Foley/Shawn Michaels Backlash 2004 April 18 World Champ Chris Benoit VS Shawn Michaels VS Triple H triple threat 5/3/04 Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit Bad Blood 2004 June 13 Triple H VS Shawn Michaels hell in a cell match. Unforgiven 2004 September 12 Shawn Michaels VS Kane Taboo Tuesday 2004 October 19 World Champ Triple H VS Shawn Michaels 2005 1/24/05 Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho/Shawn Michaels vs. Tyson Tomko/Christian/Edge Royal Rumble 2005 Edge VS Shawn Michaels 2/21/05 Edge/Christian vs. Randy Orton/Shawn Michaels 2/28/05 Edge vs. Shawn Michaels Street Fight WrestleMania 21 April 3, 2005 Kurt Angle VS Shawn Michaels Backlash 2005 May 1 Hulk Hogan & Shawn Michaels VS Muhammad Hassan & Khosrow Daivari 5/2/05 Shelton Benjamin vs. Shawn Michaels 5/9/05 Edge vs. Shawn Michaels Vengeance 2005 june 26 Shawn Michaels VS Kurt Angle SummerSlam 2005 August 21 Hulk Hogan VS Shawn Michaels Unforgiven 2005 September 18 Shawn Michaels VS Chris Masters 10/3/05 Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle 30 Minute Iron Man Raw Taboo Tuesday 2005 November 1 WWE Champ John Cena VS Shawn Michaels VS Kurt Angle triple threat Rey Mysterio Vs. Shawn Michaels 14/11/2005 Survivor Series 2005 November 27 John Bradhsaw Layfield, Rey Mysterio, Batista, Randy Orton, & Bobby Lashley VS Shawn Michaels, Carlito, The Big Show, Kane & Chris Masters 2006 New Year's Revolution 2006 January 8 WWE elimination chamber match 1/16/06 Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels March 18, 2006 Shane McMahon VS Shawn Michaels street fight WrestleMania 22 April 2, 2006 Shawn Michaels VS Vince McMahon Backlash 2006 April 30 Vince & Shane McMahon VS Shawn Michaels & "God" Vengeance 2006 June 25 Triple H & Shawn Michaels VS The Spirit Squad (Kenny, Johnny, Nicky, Mikey, & Mitch) 5/8/06 Nicky/Johnny/Kenny/Mikey/Mitch vs. Shawn Michaels/John Cena SummerSlam 2006 August 20 Shawn Michaels & Triple H VS Vince & Shane McMahon Unforgiven 2006 September 17 Shawn Michaels & Triple H beat The Big Show, Vince & Shane McMahon handicap hell in a cell Cyber Sunday 2006 November 5 Randy Orton & Edge VS Triple H & Shawn Michaels Survivor Series 2006 November 26 Triple H, Shawn Michaels, CM Punk, Matt & Jeff Hardy VS Randy Orton, Edge, Mike Knox, Gregory Helms, & Johnny Nitro 12/4/06 Matt Hardy/Jeff Hardy/Shawn Michaels/Triple H vs. Randy Orton/Edge/Joey Mercury/Johnny Nitro 12/11/06 Ric Flair/Triple H/Shawn Michaels vs. Randy Orton/Edge/Kenny 2007 New Year's Revolution 2007 January 7 Shawn Michaels & Triple H VS Randy Orton & Edge 1/22/07 Shawn Michaels vs Edge Royal Rumble 2007 2/16/07 John Cena/Shawn Michaels vs. MVP/Mr. Kennedy No Way Out 2007 February 18, 2007 John Cena & Shawn Michaels VS The Undertaker & Batista WrestleMania 23 April 1, 2007 WWE Champ John Cena VS Shawn Michaels 4/23/2007 John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels Backlash 2007 April 29 WWE Champ John Cena, Shawn Michaels, Randy Orton, & Edge in a fatal four way Cyber Sunday 2007 October 28 Shawn Michaels VS Randy Orton Survivor Series 2007 November 17 WWE Champ Randy Orton VS Shawn Michaels Armageddon 2007 December 16 Shawn Michaels VS Mr. Kennedy 12/31/07 Shawn Michaels vs. Mr. Kennedy 2008 1/21/08 Shawn Michaels vs. Mr. Kennedy Royal Rumble 2008 2/11/08 Jeff Hardy vs Shawn Michaels No Way Out 2008 February 17 elimination chamber WrestleMania XXIV March 30, 2008 Shawn Michaels VS Ric Flair Backlash 2008 April 27 Shawn Michaels VS Batista Judgment Day 2008 May 18 Shawn Michaels VS Chris Jericho 5/26/08 Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels One Night Stand 2008 June 1 Batista VS Shawn Michaels stretcher match Great American Bash 2008 July 20 Chris Jericho VS Shawn Michaels SummerSlam 2008 August 17 Shawn Michaels and Chris Jericho interview. This segment included Jericho punching Michaels' wife. Unforgiven 2008 September 7 Shawn Michaels VS Chris Jericho unsanctioned match. No Mercy 2008 October 5 World Champ Chris Jericho VS Shawn Michaels ladder match Survivor Series 2008 23 November Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio, The Great Khali, & Cryme Tye beat John Bradshaw Layfield, The Miz, John Morrison, MVP, & Kane (18:13) in an "elimination" match. Michaels, Mysterio, & Khali were the survivors. 2009 WrestleMania XXV April 5, 2009 The Undertaker VS Shawn Michaels Bragging Rights 2009 October 25 Chris Jericho, Kane, Matt Hardy, R-Truth, Fit Finlay, David Hart Smith, & Tyson Kidd VS Triple H, Shawn Michaels, The Big Show, Kofi Kingston, Mark Henry, Cody Rhodes, & Jack Swagger SummerSlam 2009 August 23 Shawn Michaels & Triple H VS Ted DiBiase, Jr. & Cody Rhodes Breaking Point September 13, 2009 Ted DiBiase, Jr. & Cody Rhodes VS Triple H & Shawn Michaels Hell in a Cell 2009 October 4 Shawn Michaels & Triple H VS Ted DiBiase, Jr. & Cody Rhodes 10/25/09 Chris Jericho/Kane/Tyson Kidd/David Hart Smith/Finlay/Matt Hardy/R-Truth vs. Triple H/Shawn Michaels/Big Show/Kofi Kingston/Jack Swagger/Mark Henry/Cody Rhodes Survivor Series 2009 November 22 WWE Champ John Cena VS Triple H VS Shawn Michaels Tables, Ladders, & Chairs 2009 December 13 Triple H & Shawn Michaels VS Chris Jericho & The Big Show 2010 1/29/10 Rey Mysterio vs Shawn Michaels WrestleMania XXVI March 28, 2010 The Undertaker VS Shawn Michaels -
A Lot of people seem to to think that Bret had too much honour and integrity to take the title to Nitro. But it was reported in a 1992 issue of the observer, that he was in talks to take the intercontinental belt to wcw.
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1979 Big Daddy vs Mighty John Quinn one of the greatest matches of all time.
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Big Daddy was also was the independent promoters British Heavyweight champion in 1960 according to wrestling heritage. Shame there doesn't appears to be much recorded history pre 80's for British wrestling. Also am i the only one who thinks 1979 Big Daddy vs Mighty John Quinn is one of the greatest matches of all time. Needs to be seen with the full intros and the celebration afterwards.