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Totally agree. It's a shame Arn got badly injured when he did, because he was still so good in the ring, and with more emphasis put on promo and competitive TV matches, he was picture perfect for the Nitro era. The promos he did in 98 building up to the return of Flair and the Horsemen comebacks are some of the best ever. And yeah, I hated the Rock's promo too back in the days. I got to enjoy them much later (as I did the whole character and worker BTW).

The more you watch Andre prior to his WWF days, the more it gets obvious the guy was a tremendous worker. Could work serious brawl, comedy, babyface, heel. Totally would make my list.

So yeah, I was a shoot-style fan, and Tamura was the apex of the style. For that reason only, and for years of being awesome and pushing his style to the extreme, he'd be my #4 or 5.

The King of the 90's. I really haven't re-watched much of him in the last 10 years, but still. You can't deny his greatness. #4 or 5.

She did carry Mika Akino to a tremendous debut match. Although she trained Akino, who was a prodigy rookie herself, so that must have helped.

I should just have said "watched TV seasons and arena footage" in my first post, since that one didn't get any bad reaction. I was just giving my two cents. (and you're the one making the only snarky, attention grabbing post of this thread BTW, with your patronizing "Congratulations you may be the only one to think that, you win the prize.". If that's not trolling, I don't know what it is.)

I told you before, Cena needs to turn heel and go Lance Armstrong on the WWE Universe's ass. Greatest gimmick ever.

I talked about going through TV seasons. Forgot to mention arena stuff. Someone pointed out the arena stuff was better. I simply replied that actually I had seen a bunch of arena footage too, and that it was nothing special to me either. Nothing to get worked up like that, really. It's not dismissive. If I hadn't seen the arena footage I'd have replied "Ok, maybe I needed to see that stuff then". I guess you have to be all "Johnny watches WWE" mood these days…

It's not that I don't care about the topic. If I had to make a list, I would probabIy agree with what Coffey said. But my point is I don't care about what WWE puts or their TV show anymore, and have zero confidence they will make it better (from my perspective). It's a reflection of the failure on their part to get me back, despite some stuff I really enjoyed this past year (Rusev, the heel New Day etc…). Like I said, it's been fun for a while, but...

At this point, I don't care anymore (I did my best to try, and I watched more current stuff this year than I did in 15 years, and enjoyed quite a bit of it, thanks Rusev). It's been fun for a while though.

He's probably the first japanese wrestler I was a fan of. Not because of WCW. We didn't get WCW before 96. But we got NJ on Eurosport, with lots of bad gaijin matches (that Vader vs Gigante match was shown all the time, for some reason). And some great stuff. Easy to become a Liger fan back then. I got bored with junior wrestling in the early 00's when I went through TV blocks, on tape bought from Jeff Lynch. At that point, I'd rather watch Choshu vs Hash than Liger vs Benoit. Liger is the greatest wrestler whose style I haven't cared for in more than a decade. would be #8 or #9. Oh, Yamada was great before the outfit, but he really beneficiated from the mask.

#3

Congratulations you may be the only one to think that, you win the prize. WTF ? Really ? As I said, I've been through shitloads of Mid-souh years ago, TV seasons and a bunch or arena stuff. That's what Duggan's work seemed to me, nothing special. That's all there's to it, really. Don't make everything a personal or ego issue. It's really not. I couldn't care less. I'm having "boring choice" Jumbo Tsuruta as my #1 wrestler ever, and other oh-so-original choices like Hansen, Terry Funk and Kawada in my top 5. I really couldn't care less if I'm in a large group or by myself. Especially at this point of my life, I mean...

People in the 80's thought mullet were cool.

He went too far into the headdropping at one point. And it killed him, litteraly. For that reason, I'll drop him down one spot, and put Tenryu above him. #6 or 7

I've seen Mid-South arena footage too. Nothing special.

Awful comparison, really. Necro was a freak show garbage guy in US indys. Kudo only did deathmatches in the last few years of her career mostly after Onita retired because someone had to take the abuse, and she did it in big arenas and stadiums because she was a bit time draw.

The energizer bunny of beating the shit out of you. #2.

After hearing again and again how good Duggan was in Mid-south, I was absolutely underwhelmed by his work there as I went through TV seasons. Yes, he was better than he was in WWF and WCW, but that wasn't too hard, but he really wasn't anything special. By the end of his run, he was just as goofy as he was in WWF. The only feud I really thought was actually great down there was against Buzz Sawyer. He never caught that fire again until he fought Vader in WCW.

Yeah that's what I thought. Thanks for correcting my failing memory (age… or alcohol. Or both).

I don't even hate the Demos. They were a decent team all things considered (and by that I mean, Barry Darsow was half the team, so hat's off to Ax for keeping the level above complete suckiness, although Ivan Koloff he wasn't). But I always hear that Masked Supertar was that much better than cartoony WWF Eadie, but to me what I've seen of his work is totally uninspiring. It's kinda like the idea that Duggan was so good in Mid-south and that he only sucked in WWF and WCW. And then I went through Mid-south entire TV seasons and… ok, that's for another thread.

I've been a pro-wrestling fan for 25 years. I never really got lucha, and never got into it. Too late now.

Yep. The best looking-like-nothing worker ever. He looked old even when he was younger. Not really old but… never young. But yeah, delivered the goods for so long.

From what I saw, he was just as bland and boring as Masked Superstar as he was as Ax. No idea how that gimmick ever worked in the 80's actually. Really, "Masked Superstar" sounds like something that would get over in the 50's or 60's (it's like Super Strong Machine. What the hell is this supposed to mean ?).

Probably the 93 version, because the first one I saw was 92 and it didn't had any actual Survivor Series match. So it was cool to see that gimmick for the first time. Plus you had the Owen turn, step one, which was totally awesome and unexpected to me. And Savage as a surprise member. And the Quebecers in the main event. And life was easy.