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I haven't seen one D-Von vs Bubba match I would call watchable. And you know what I think about Spike. I'm not a Dudley fan at all, Bubba is by far the best of them all, excellent bumper, excellent promo, both funny and serious, pretty good offense. But I have a hard time finding a whole lot of *good* matches involving the Dudz (talking about ECW).
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Konnan is seriously one of the worst worker I've ever seen. Down there with the Harris Brothers and Crusher Maedomari. Flair had no chance in hell of saving this, and it's not like he had anything else to propose but an abridged version of his formula at this point. Him winning the US belt felt wrong too. Below his level, come on.
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So we replace an unreliable goofball who never drew shit by.... another unreliable goofball who never drew shit. I wasn't happy to see Sid come back, as I was bored to tears by his 1995 stint. Memories of those godawful matches with Diesel coming back... Yet, he prooved me wrong and delivered the most entertaining stint of his entire career, complete with his best matches ever. Well, thanks to Bret and Shawn, but still.
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D-Von really sucked actually. I liked the Dudleys until he showed up, and then the fun was ruined. Shitty matches against Bubba, shitty gimmick which consisted of smashing people's head with a chair, we know how good that is. And really, D-Von is a guy who dropped dramatically down during my ECW watching. Jeez, this guys brought nothing. He did get better toward the end, and probably in WWF, but for the most part, he really sucked.
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Not a good representation of either man's talent. They basically did a sick spot exhibition, which probably looked much more impressive then than it is now. Good garbage match, but they didn't click that well. I'm not sure what the deal was, but wasn't Quinones working with WWF a bit in 1996 ? He brought them the HeadHunters for the Rumble and a few house show (there's a really good Head Hunter vs Leif cassidy & Aldo Montoya match somewhere). Cactus already had the Mankind outfit (at least the boots and pants) and haircut at this point.
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This was awesome. Yeah, there was clearly a schyzophrenic nature in the product going on in 1996. It's a fascinating year for US wrestling because of how everything evolved so quickly.
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Why does Davey Boy Smith always end up in stupid videos on beaches ?
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Sullivan did an amazing job putting Benoit over as a killer, no pun intended. Funny how revisionnist history would tell that WCW never pushed Benoit yaddi yaddi yadda. The greatest thing about this match is obviously, Dusty's call of the woman in the bathroom. Just classic. Just thinking about it puts a smile on my face.
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Owen on commentary was gold. The match is really good, but not as good as it could have been. And Shawn the face champion with Jose Lothario at his side was just... uncool in every way imaginable.
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Amazing to watch Gordy looking like the old Gordy for a few minutes. Raven just get killed to put him over, and his formula works so well. Raven says Gordy showing up is the loudest pop ever in the ECW Arena, and quite frankly, I believe him, the crowd went totally nuts.
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The introduction of the complete Goldust package, with Marlena, which was a brillant idea. The fact that this creepy guy with ambiguous sexual behaviour had a female "director" by his side who smoked the cigar and was sexy as hell was just perfect. I remember liking the match a whole lot, and Goldust really went far into the unconfortable "I like when you hit me" deal. I wasn't a big fan of the Kid being the sole reason Goldust won, but I popped big time to see him get the belt. I was a big fan of Goldust. It's too bad they sterilized the character in 97 with that ridiculous and awful "Oh, I'm not gay nor bisexual, I'm actually a gread dad and a family man playing a role" interview.
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Again, Pillman's little stint in ECW amounted to nothing, and I don't think it aged that well. Sure, he was a very good promo, but the batshit insane character looked forced to me.
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[1996-02-11-WCW-Superbrawl VI] Brian Pillman vs Kevin Sullivan (Strap)
El-P replied to Loss's topic in February 1996
Really a nothing match with a rather idiotic shoot angle, which fascinated Vince Russo and we probably owe a good part of his absurd "swerve-shooty shooty" booking to this match. If at least it led to something. Pillman's Loose Cannon gimmick didn't age very well, it felt a bit forced.- 10 replies
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[1996-08-18-WWF-Summerslam] The Undertaker vs Mankind (Boiler Room Brawl)
El-P replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
I loved this match back then, I'm not sure how it's holding up after years of garbaging up and down the cards. The turn is very well done and was pretty shocking to me. Funny how WWF evolved in the course of 1996. This kind of garbage match would have been unthinkable the previous year.- 17 replies
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Bret and Shawn aren't small. Shawn is 6'1. I've heard that Jerry Jarrett played a role in them getting pushed at the time. Savage sure wasn't a small guy. Eddie, Benoit and Rey were small. Rey was pushed because Eddie died. Both Rey and Benoit's title reign were nondescriot at best, and they got back to the midcard afterward. But really, it's an accepted fact that Vince doesn't like small guys.
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[1996-08-05-NJPW-G1 Climax] Keiji Muto vs Shiro Koshinaka
El-P replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
The 96 Climax was so great.- 11 replies
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[1996-03-31-WWF-Wrestlemania XII] Bret Hart vs Shawn Michaels (60-Minute Iron Man)
El-P replied to Loss's topic in March 1996
Toyota and Inoue had the infamous überworkrate 60 minutes match in 1995. Amazing stuff. The Rock and HHH of all people had an excellent 60 minutes matches. Time doesn't matter. The way it's worked does. I have never seen Angle/brock going 60, but I don't want to see Angle going anywhere near 60 minutes. -
Well, the only point of Rey winning the Rumble and the belt was make money out of Eddie's death. The constant references to Eddie during that time were just unbearable. Plus since Vince hates small guys, Rey was never treated as a real champ anyway.
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It's the kind of match I would ave gone ga-ga over 12 years ago. Rewatching it a few years back, I thought it was actively boring. Just like the famous Dean vs Eddie matches from ECW rather bored me when I rewatched them last year. I was more interested by the Sandman's matches to be honest.
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I remember that match, so much fun. Anjoh is such a dick, and Tenryu is grumpy as all hell. I loved WAR.
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I blame the workers for doing a NJ Korakuen Hall match before this audience. Neither of them had any will to try to involve the crowd, they worked like they were in a vacuum.
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I loved it back then, and rewatching it, it's truly an excellent match. Is there any proof out there than Mero was a good worker at this point ? I mean, it should be pretty obvious. Yeah, Mero was a missed opportunity. He should have been given a long IC title reign, and probably would have done much better if not for the severe knee injury. I don't think he could have been El Hijo del Macho Man, but he and Sable brought some glamour back to the product, something that had been absent since the early 90's.
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[1996-02-05-WWF-Raw] Shawn Michaels & Diesel vs Davey Boy Smith & Yokozuna
El-P replied to Loss's topic in February 1996
I thought it was a bad feud for Vader at this point, but it's true that at least they could have made a big deal out of it.- 10 replies