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The Apple TV is good if you have other apple products like iPad and a Mac as they all work together. You can play your entire iTunes catalog thru your tv. I have direct tv and use the HBO GO app from Apple tv all the time.

Yeah, the apps just show up on Apple tv. Is that article saying if you sign up for the network on safari on your mac that the app will just show up on your apple tv? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I am confused also and just trying to figure it out.

I was going to do it thru that way too, really disappointing. I am just kind of surprised. Didn't they give each reporter an apple tv at the announcement? I mean even Apple was advertising that they were offering the WWE network. You would think they would of had this figured out before the announcement.

Says it in this article here. A dispute over percentages. http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/454439-wwe-network-free-trial-note

So is it true that apple tv is now NOT carrying the network?

Ole Anderson turns on Dusty Rhodes in 1980 is my favorite heel turn of all time. Ole was fantastic in the interview with Solie as they were recapping it on GCW. One of the all time great gems of the territory era. I also remember being completely blown away when Nikita came out with Dusty after Magnum TA's crash in late 1986. In the end I think his career was hurt by it. I think Nikita was better as a monster heel.

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Well his father was Tiger Jeet Singh, long considered one of the worst wrestlers of all time. I remember getting a batch of Japanese footage a very long time ago and there was a ton of Tiger Jeet Singh matches on them. He was a huge star over there but man did his matches suck.

Honestly, I was just thinking the same thing. It just seems so out of character for him and from out of nowhere. Like if if you click on his profile you notice he went and edited his posts with the same stuff. It's just weird.

I am not really sure what really lead to the actual breakdown. But you can see his decent into madness in the Pat Patterson thread. It was originally in the tag team thread. Just bizarre.

This is the best heel turn since Ole Anderson in 1980.

Good choice with the Slaughter and Kernodle tag team. I think the only draw back would be the fact they were only together for a very short time as a tag team. It might have been less then a year. But what a great year they had. They were awesome. Other teams that could be in the discussion Robert Fuller and Jimmy Golden Dennis Condrey and Phil Hickerson

As for Japanese, my favorite team of all time is Choshu and Yatsu. I think Riki Choshu is one of the most underappreciated wrestlers of all time. He actually might be my all time favorite Japanese wrestler where it used to be Jumbo. Now I would say its Choshu. Here is one of my all time favorite posts on the history of Choshu "invading" All Japan courtesy of Frank Jewett, a great read. http://www.otherarena.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=609

Michael Hayes- The mouthpiece of one of the best feuds of all time. The debut of the Freebirds in Ga Here is the first part of the four flat tires angle......this guy has the whole angle uploaded. If you haven't seen it, you should check it out. Austin Idol-Yeah he was lazy and not a great worker but he was great on the mic. His stuff in Ga is all time great. Four flat tires still might be the single most entertaining angle ever of the territory era. And Hayes was great in that also. Not the four flat tires angle but still good stuff.... Idol after he was attacked at a gas staton by Ron Fuller and Jimmy Golden Jim Cornette-His hilarious rapid fire attacks on Baby Doll, America's team of Rhodes and Magnum, the Rock and Roll Express, Jimmy Valiant, Rocky King and the street people and on David and Tony were required viewing. Don Muraco-I know he is not well liked around these parts but I found his promos absolutely hilarious. Here he is talking about Pat Patterson

My timeline of watching wrestling 81-88 I watched religiously whatever was on in Chicago and that was a ton of wrestling. There was stuff literally on everyday if you watched the WCCW shows on ESPN which I would watch after school. 89-95 I literally didn't watch anything. I was about 17 and just had other things going on. I started working full time and just had other interests. Another factor was just the general direction wrestling had gone in, especially the WWF. 96-99 I watched ECW and the Monday night wars. After McMahon purchased WCW I was kind of done. 2000-to present I watch very little of the current product. I order Wrestemania every year and keep up what's going by reading here. I will turn on Raw once in awhile but haven't since this new power thing going on with HHH. Plus I think the 3 hour format has really hurt the show. When I have the time in my off season from work, I watch about 20 hours a week of wrestling. All old school stuff of 70s-90s.

I also enjoyed Brody-Abdullah match from Texas. But to put it as magical is the problem I have. I enjoy reading Shoemaker's column on Grantland. I wasn't really trying to dump on the guy. He does seem like a nice guy. And I think it's great for him to get a book published on such a wide scale. I wish him all the luck in the world. Brody just has that weird aura about him. Like how Captain Willard described Col Kilgore in Apocolypse Now, Brody just has that weird light around him. A few years ago, I got back into wrestling again and started collecting footage. I got some Brody footage and I was very underwhelmed. I was like hmmm, he isn't nearly as good as I remembered and more importantly not as good as all the hype I had read about him. You just have to wonder if he watches the stuff he writes about. Or does he feel this way about Brody because that is what has been forced down our throat over the years. We are in the minority here the way we feel about Brody. To the other extreme, you take a guy like Roddy Piper. To most wrestling fans you bring up Piper's name and the first thing that pops into mind is the obnoxious host of Pipers's Pit. Hell that's pretty much all I remembered him for 10 years ago. Then I started compiling Piper footage. His California/Portland/Georgia stuff. Then watched some of his Mid Atlantic stuff. It was mind blowing how good this guy is in my opinion. He was awesome. I was thinking to myself "I thought all this guy could do was talk like a manic" Then I watched an entire comp of Piper from 84-86 and he was great. But in the end all we remember is Piper's Pit and Wrestlemania when his career was so much more. In other words he he gets severely short changed by wrestling historians in my opinion. Let me put it this way, Buddy Rose is now considered an all time great worker around here and I totally agree. The guy is simply amazing. If you went to Shoemaker and asked him where would you put Rose in the history of all time wrestling greats? I am guessing he would give you a weird look and say all time great? He was nothing but a regional star at best. Of course this is only a guess and unfair to him as I am sure he has not watched nearly as much Buddy Rose footage like we have. What else does he have to base his opinion of Rose on? He probably has no idea that this foroum exists. He would probably just go to Wikipedia see the career overview and go ok not much there. I actually understand why he would feel that way. We are wrestling snobs. We can't expect everyone else to have the same opinions and ideas as we have here on PWO. It's extremely hard to have an original idea or thought when it come to the world of wrestling. That's what's so amazing about this place. It has the most original opinions and ideas about wrestling on the Internet. We watch way more wrestling footage then the normal fan and guys like Shoemaker who writes about wrestling for a living.

Here is a little nugget about Bruiser Brody that will most likely make some people's heads explode. I literally laughed out loud reading this thinking of this board. Epic "He wasn't exactly a ring technician, but he was an imposing figure and one of the best in-ring storytellers of all time. He could get a near-epic match out of just about anybody he wrestled, and that list of opponents reads like the index in the Iliad: Sammartino, Flair, Bockwinkel, McDaniel, Dick the Bruiser, Jerry Blackwell. Whereas most monster wrestlers of that era were mythic beasts whose opponents were made legend by defeating him, Brody was both beast and poet: He wrote the epics in which he featured. He could turn any night at the wrestling show into a major event" What I found even more amazing about the Brody chapter was the fact there was not one word of his time in Japan. I understand the premises of the book is basically an overview of wrestling in America from 1900 and on but this is what he says about Brody becoming a legend. "He had successful runs through a few of the regional territories until Vince McMahon Sr. brought him in and renamed Bruiser Brody. Frank soon went by the wayside. Bruiser Brody was a legend from the moment he came into existence" Brody wrestled in what was the then WWWF in 1976. Yes while Vince Sr christened him with the Bruiser moniker, the Brody legend really didn't take till after Japan made him a huge star and Meltzer raving about him in the early 80s. Here is another nugget " If you go back and watch the endless string of Brody-Abdullah matches, you can see that they were doing something magical, bringing together two forces in a brutal chemistry. Watch Brody against other people, and you start to see the real element of fear that he inspired. Brody could make you believe, if for a brief moment, that the danger was real. Partly it was his violence, his stiffness, his otherness, but mostly it was the look on the faces of his opponents, who, in their unguarded moments, so often seemed to be trying desperately to get away" God I hope Will reads this. A first for everything, a Brody-Abdullah match described as magical.

From April thru November I probably avg less the 2 hours a week because of my job. I work a ton of hours and work 6-7 days a week. From Dec thru March when my work really slows down, it's probably around 10-15 hours a week. As for my collection, it's pretty bad. Even more evident with the fact I am moving in 2 weeks and have to move it all. I keep telling myself that every winter I will catalog everything and make a master list of everything like most other people. But I have yet to do that. I can tell you basically everything I have even thou its not written down anywhere.

What would be great is if you can somehow archive them all like the Sports Illustrated Vault or Time Magazine vault and just be able to read them online. Or an app like how you read magazines and newspapers on your iPads or tablets. Again I suck with technology and have zero clue if this can anyway be done at all.

I actually have all the PWIs and the Wrestler, Sports Review Wrestling and Inside Wrestling issues from 1979-1990. I was wondering if there was someway to post the them online or something so people can see them. I just have no clue as to how to do something like that.

1. The Midnight Express- I prefer the Condrey and Eaton version over Lane and Eaton. But they are both awesome. Thanks Will for making that set!! 2. The Freebirds-1980-1986- The Hayes, Gordy and Roberts team. They were part of a lot of history and some huge moments in wrestling. I think they lived up to the hype which was enormous. Hayes is an all time mic guy and Gordy is one of the best ever. Roberts was just the perfect balance for the two. 3. The Dynamic Duo- The feud with Kevin and Kerry is very underrated in my opinion. It was an absolute blast. Gino was very sloppy and not very good in the ring but he did have that charisma and could get away with it. 4. Robert Fuller and Jimmy Golden- The best team from the great lost territory. They were fucking hilarious and great in the ring. Man could they brawl. 5. The New Breed- Yep they were awesome. Second best tag team squash matches ever behind the Midnight Express. Who knows what would have happened if not for the car wreck. PG-13 would be up there but I have not seen enough of them yet. I think we need to see a comp of these guys. I love what I have seen.