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Matt D

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  1. I am glad you are watching both Rose/Somers cage matches at once
  2. Either September or October 8, 1977. Buddy vs Cocoa Samoa. I'm watching this specifically with the little things in mind and he does pretty great with it. Lots of small things. Slamming his own head on the mat an extra time after taking a back flop. Grabbing hold of the hair to get leverage during a kick out. The way his arms move when he's in a headlock. Samoa actually does a good job selling the arm and Buddy's armwork is varied and interesting and he really grinds when he has a hold on and also sells the attempts to fight out of it by Cocoa. It's a simple little heel as protagonist match (act 1: Stalling. Act 2: face catching him and taking over. Act 3: Armwork, cut off come back, submission finish) but well worked, certainly.
  3. That's kind of what i was saying before. I know anecdotal evidence is frowned upon for good reason on the board, but I remember myself and a whole lot of other people around me jumping up at the end of that match.
  4. Was it jericho who had x # of Raw main events in his contract when he first signed with WWF?
  5. Ragnar Ross with Ranger Ross doing a viking gimmick would have been the best thing ever.
  6. What's strange is I felt the exact opposite sentiment, especially in relation to Brock Lesnar v. Chris Benoit. If I had to give a statement of essence to that match, it would be "One man's passion to become world champion." He was a wrestler's wrestler, and it's a powerful feeling to watch him between 2003 and 2004 in his struggle to become a world champion as even fans felt no one deserved it more. It's hilarious to see HHH, for example, try to connect with the audience in similar ways in failing each time. Benoit's style and persona commanded respect from the audience, which is why he got standing ovations. I know you're just expressing opinion, and I'm not claiming that you're wrong since your claim depends on your own experiences anyway, which is neither right nor wrong, but it's strange that your objection to Benoit's work would be based off of that given that the fans felt very much emotionally connected to him upon viewing an intense match of his, whether against Angle or Lesnar. What stood out most about Benoit's match against Lesnar was the amount of real emotional heat in that match in ways that no match in modern WWE can touch outside of a Wrestlemania main event like Cena v. Rock. The standing ovation after Benoit vs Angle at the 2003 Royal Rumble was worked. It was started by plants. I wasn't a plant. I was an asshole 21 year old.
  7. And for those of us who don't care a whole lot about violence and nastyness, it told an amazing, consistent, wildly challenging story about the old veteran trying to keep up with the young lion but getting more and more frustrated until his true colors started to show despite himself. In reverting to his old self, however, his desperation unleashes something in the younger wrestler that is immediately apparent would be the veteran's eventual downfall. In light of that both wrestlers just try to survive the situation fate has put them in. It's a beautiful story and beautifully executed.
  8. Finlay still hasn't been rehired yet,right?
  9. For the sake of your sanity you should focus instead how it's the only match that has consensus and everything else is all over the place.
  10. Genius!
  11. There's only one match that comes even close to it and the level of difficulty on Hennig vs Bock is so much higher.
  12. I like my say of saying it better
  13. Basically Dave likes Michael Bay?
  14. Buddy vs Dr. D David Schultz, Cage match, Maybe 8/21/82? Buddy just makes every heel a face, huh? Anyway, this is fun. If Buddy loses he's gone forever, plus Oliver is chained to Hack Sawyer outside the cage. Pretty simple stuff at the beginning with Buddy getting mauled, but he makes it look great. Gets color early. The transition is him hitting a low blow which I think is a great, straightforward, logical use of the no dq stip. That's what Buddy WOULD do all the time if given a chance. He uses the cage pretty well and Schultz starts bleeding. That's when Buddy attacks the wound again. He really good at this. Very fun come back as Schultz outsmarts Rose, landing on his feet on a top rope move and just takes it to him. Finish is a bit bullshitty. If there's an enforcer chained to the heel's associate, it's kind of weak to have him made to look like an ass so that the associate can toss his buddy a special weapon. It get that it ratchets up the heat. I assume they were building to some bigger match for the Tuesday show. Still, this was good past that.
  15. There's a difference between hot moves and action
  16. I think your telling is obviously more accurate. I just find it interesting what my perspective was as a kid since Bret vs Barbarian is actually one of the most important match-ups of my youth, a seminal one for reasons i've mentioned before. I was going to ask you when WWF had the Warriors signed, but I can look through the WON on that, actually.
  17. I'm not saying I didn't know it was a work. I was just used to the bigger guy getting the push.
  18. I should know this but I'm blanking right now: In 1990- April 91 or so, were there a lot of cases of a babyface Bret's size beating a guy the Barbarian's size? I know coming into that house show in 91 at age 9, i was really surprised that Bret held his own to force the draw and I think some of that was how I was trained by the WWF to see larger wrestlers and smaller wrestlers.
  19. I was talking more from the perspective of the average viewing audience. There were something like four Bret vs Barbarian matches in between the Hart Foundation as Tag Champs having matches with Rhythm and Blues and Power and Glory (and a few Smash/Crush matches). Certainly not around the horn and I would assume not as some planned singles push or testing the waters. I think his best challenger in 91 is actually Nord, for what it's worth.
  20. There are a few Bret vs Dibiase matches on house shows in 91 and a series of Bret/Virgil vs IRS/Dibiase matches too.
  21. I was 9 in 91 too and even saw a house show (my first) with Barbarian vs Bret. To me it wasn't a disappointment because in my mind, Barbarian was higher on the totem pole than Bret was and bigger too, so for Bret to be getting wins over him was a big deal. Barbarian had been getting jobber wins as a solo guy for a year. Bret had just started to get his first few in April, which happens to be when I saw that house show. I think Barbarian was a totally acceptable guy for Bret to break out as a solo guy against. I'm pretty sure the initial plan was for him to continue to feud with Perfect after Summerslam, but obviously that wasn't workable. Now, Warlord was probably less viable than Barbarian especially now that Bret had the belt.
  22. Russo is coming
  23. At age 17, I can tell you I was really frustrated by Duncum coming in and feuding with Jericho. I very much had a sense of "Who the hell is this guy and where did he come from and why is there a cowboy?" when there were so many other guys I wanted to see Jericho against.
  24. Randy Savage vs King Konga (Barbarian) - Early 84? I don't know where this is, Missouri? Somewhere. Youtube says it's ICW but I don't think so. Savage has the NWA Mid American Championship. Anyway this is to set up a no DQ match later, and it's all about Savage making Konga look like a million bucks. He's super giving, eating hot shots and power moves and having a completely ineffectual offense. Savage gets a few hope spots but they amount to nothing. It ends with a DQ as Konga goes out of control and the visual of Savage having Konga ready for a pile driver before people come in to break it up and the question for the rematch remains whether or not Randy will be able to get him up now that the title is on the line. If you ever wanted to see Randy vs a Brick Wall, I'd suggest this over the two Gonzales matches from 93.
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