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[1996-03-01-NJPW vs UWFi-High Tension] Nobuhiko Takada vs Shiro Koshinaka
KB8 replied to Loss's topic in March 1996
I couldn't really get into this, but I'll probably re-watch it at some point since I liked the idea of Koshinaka being a pro-wrestler in a shoot style world. This is a match-up I don't much care for in general (didn't particularly like any of their matches on the New Japan 80s set), but I came around to Koshinaka again when he was potatoing people in the WAR feud. -
Finally finished February, although it's been ages since I watched some of the matches and remember next to nothing about stuff like Liger/Black Tiger, the shooty multi-man match from 2/3, Flair/Savage from Superbrawl, etc. If I rip off Loss and do a top 100 at the end I'll have to re-watch some stuff, anyway. From what I can remember: 1. 2 Cold Scorpio vs. Sabu (Cyberslam 2/17/96) 2. Shawn Michaels vs. Owen Hart (PPV 2/18/96) 3. Shinya Hashimoto & Junji Hirata vs. Yoji Anjo & Yoshihiro Takayama (NJ 2/25/96) 4. Manami Toyota, Mariko Yoshida, Kaoru Ito & Yumi Fukawa vs. Kyoko Inoue, Takako Inoue, Chapparita Asari, Tomoko Watanabe & Kumiko Maekawa (Handicap Captains Fall Match) (AJW 2/12/96) 5. El Hijo del Santo, El Dandy & Dos Caras vs. Blue Panther, Apolo Dantes & Emilio Charles Jr. (CMLL 2/16/96) 6. El Dandy, El Hijo Del Santo & Silver King vs. Negro Casas, Apolo Dantes & El Satanico (CMLL 2/10/96) 7. PG-13 vs. Tracy Smothers & Jesse James Armstrong (USWA 2/17/96) 8. 1-2-3 Kid vs. Hakushi (RAW 2/5/96) 9. Jushin Liger & Black Tiger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani & Koji Kanemoto (NJ 2/15/96) 10. Lex Luger vs. Eddy Guerrero (WCWSN 2/3/96) 11. Black Tiger & El Samurai & Gran Hamada vs. Shinjiro Otani & Koji Kanemoto & Dean Malenko (NJ 2/25/96) 12. Ric Flair vs. Randy Savage (Nitro 2/19/96) 13. Mitsuhiro Matsunaga, W*ING Kanemura & Hido vs. Masato Tanaka, Ricky Fuji & Tetsuhiro Kuroda (War Games) (FMW 2/23/96) 14. Hulk Hogan vs. Arn Anderson (Nitro 2/12/96) A few matches really shocked me from this month. I didn't know what to expect out of Sabu/Scorp, but it was awesome and definitely my favourite Sabu match ever...probably my favourite Scorp match, too. That joshi tag is something I didn't have much desire to watch beforehand, but I totally dug it. Maybe it was just a "stars align" type thing where I was in the right mood to watch it, I don't know, but I really liked it regardless. Hashimoto was amazing in the 2/15 tag. Wasn't necessarily "big match" Hashimoto, but he looked like the baddest motherfucker walking and it's mesmerising watching him take no shit from anybody. shoe made a point in Dylan's Buddy Rose thread where he said Buddy had the "Jordan factor." You're just drawn to him and want to watch him because there's always the potential for him to do something amazing. I love that analogy, and I'm stealing it and applying it to Hashimoto, because that dude fucking HAD it.
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Oh fuck, this ruled. Hashimoto already looks like the best wrestler in the world after only two matches. The way he'd just shut Takayama or Anjoh down with those brutal overhand chops was awesome; he comes across as such and un-fuck-with-able dude and has charisma out the wazoo. Loved the chippiness between him and Anjoh. Anjoh became a real favourite of mine this year, and I get a huge kick out of him acting like a douchebag, coming in to break up submissions or pinfalls before sprinting back to the corner and egging Hashimoto on to come get him. The Hirata/Hashimoto double stomp at the beginning looked like it would explode your lungs. There was one "reset" in the second half that seemed out of place and kind of took me out of the match briefly, but they drew me back in with the stiffness and such soon enough. Really looking forward to all the Hashimoto still to come.
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- NJPW
- February 25
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[1996-02-18-WWF-In Your House VI] Shawn Michaels vs Owen Hart
KB8 replied to Loss's topic in February 1996
This isn't the best match I've watched on the set so far, but it might be my favourite. Michaels' entrance and striptease while McMahon verbally blows him on commentary went on a bit long, but after that it got REAL good. Loved all of the early stuff with Michaels just fucking around and having a good time making Owen and Cornette look stupid. I suppose one could argue that shit doesn't really fit into a rivalry where the guy screwing around almost had his career ended by his opponent, but I never saw this as the kind of feud where you'd need Tenryu-level hatred, anyway. Owen was really good on offence once he took over, and Shawn's sell of the enziguiri where he just collapses and tumbles out of the ring was great. I understand the criticisms Michaels gets, and shit, I agree with almost all of them, but I still get a ton out of his matches (more so pre-comeback). They're generally laid out really basically (when he's working babyface it's the standard: babyface shine --> heel transition spot --> heel workover --> nip-up comeback --> short-ish run to finish --> finish), but I like basic. The Mankind match is an obvious exception, and I think that's the best match of his career, but every time I watch something like this or the Diesel match from In Your House, they always hold up. The nip-up is a problematic spot, but it just doesn't bother me much at this point.- 17 replies
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[1996-02-17-USWA-TV] PG-13 vs Tracy Smothers & Jesse James Armstrong
KB8 replied to Loss's topic in February 1996
I dug the Hell out of this. Baxter is such an obnoxious shithead, it's awesome. Match itself is pretty boss, especially the run to the finish with all the shenanigans and "so this is the finish...wait, no, THIS...okay, they're going with THIS, then" moments.- 12 replies
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Thought this was pretty great. Like the match from the 10th I was a bit disappointed that it only went two falls, but the rudos saying "fuck it" and just stomping the shit out of Santo while Panther tries to rip his mask off was a finish that kept me happy enough. I mean, Panther biting Santo's fingers as he desperately tries to keep his mask on was fucking awesome. The Panther/Caras section in the first fall was too brief, but man was it good. Emilio Brody Jr. was as great as I was hoping he'd be too, especially his bullshit in the first fall. Slightly prefer this to the 2/10 trios, but I enjoyed both quite a bit.
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- CMLL
- February 15
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Yeah, this was good. I find myself sort of tuning out when watching a lot of this junior heavyweight stuff (on this and the '93 yearbook), but I can get behind Ohtani and Kanemoto acting like punks and Liger/Tiger putting them in their place. Didn't go too long, had enough moments of someone acting like an asshole, strong finishing run...good stuff.
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- NJPW
- February 15
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This was worked and paced exactly like I thought it would be. I was kind of dreading watching it since something like that for 30 minutes isn't exactly my idea of a party, but I was stunned at how much I wound up liking it. I don't know half of the women in this, but the skinny girl on Toyota's team that Tim mentioned took quite the shitkicking. Toyota winds up wiping her out accidentally with a plancha and that leaves her with a busted nose, and then she takes that giant swing from Inoue where she spins around so quickly it looks like she's having to hold her own head in place for fear it'll pop off. Takako Inoue also ragdolls her with this Boston Crab sequence where she bends her like a slinky, flips her over, sits down HARD on her lower back, and bends her in two again. There's some super nasty looking shit in this. Couple DDTs that spike the receiver right on the top of their head and a few crazy reckless neck bumps. Then the skinny girl whose name I don't know gets kicked square in the beak a BUNCH of times. Takako standing on...some other woman whose name I don't know's head and flipping off the audience for booing her was my favourite part. I'm not sure what the story between those two were, but that was the final pairing and Takako looked awfully glad to be beating the shit out of her any time she was in there. I couldn't watch this kind of thing very often without getting sick of it, but this was a real surprise and I'm glad I didn't skip it.
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- AJW
- February 12
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I'm somewhere between Tim and Loss on this (although it seems Loss liked this less after a re-watch). I was kind of bummed it only went two falls, but the ending to the second fall was unexpected and pretty great. Loved Dantes putting the boots to Santo while Santo was lying on the mat showing the ref' how his shoulder was up. The Dandy/Satanico pairing was really good here, building from the sportsmanlike exchanges in the first fall to them both agreeing to get back in the ring so they can punch each other in the face some more in the third. Didn't think this was spectacular or anything, but I still dug it a lot.
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- CMLL
- February 10
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After a long break, I blew through June in less than a week. 1. Genichiro Tenryu vs. Shinya Hashimoto (WAR 6/17/93) 2. Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi vs. Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue (AJ 6/1/93) 3. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (KOR 6/13/93) 4. Riki Choshu, Shinya Hashimoto, Tatsumi Fujinami, Masa Chono & Hiroshi Hase vs. Genichiro Tenryu, Ashura Hara, Takashi Ishikawa, Tatsu Goto & Strong Machine (Elimination Match) (WAR vs. NJ 6/15/93) 5. Barry Windham vs. 2 Cold Scorpio (Clash 6/16/93) 6. Marty Jannetty vs. Doink the Clown (2/3 Falls) (RAW 6/21/93) 7. Hiroshi Hase vs. Samson Fuyuki (WAR 6/17/93) 8. Yoshiaki Fujiwara v. Osamu Kido (NJ 6/14/93) 9. Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi vs. Toshiaki Kawada, Akira Taue & Yoshinari Ogawa (AJ 6/3/93) 10. Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs. Joe Malenko (PWFG 6/1/93) 11. Bret Hart vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (KOR 6/13/93) 12. Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs. Steve Austin & Brian Pillman (2/3 Falls) (Clash 6/16/93) 13. Jerry Flynn vs. Diuseul Berto (PWFG 6/1/93) 14. Terry Funk vs. Eddie Gilbert (Chain Match) (ECW 6/19/93) 15. El Samurai vs. Wild Pegasus (NJ 6/14/93) 16. Bret Hart vs. Razor Ramon (KOR 6/13/93) 17. Razor Ramon vs. 1-2-3 Kid ($10,000 Challenge) (RAW 6/21/93) 18. The Great Muta vs. The Great Kabuki (NJ 6/15/93) 19. Lightning Kid vs. Eddie Guerrero (NJ 6/5/93) 20. Akira Hokuto & Kyoko Inoue vs. Bull Nakano & Aja Kong (AJW vs. JWP 6/3/93) Another really strong month. The All Japan six-man being 9th seems low, but I honestly thought it was great...I just liked everything above it even more. Tenryu/Hashimoto was pretty much everything I wanted it to be and I'm now even more psyched for the rematch in New Japan. How many guys in wrestling history can pull of "epic heavyweight slugfest" as well as those two? Choshu, Kawada...Takayama? Just an amazing pay off to all of the abuse they've been hurling at each other in tags leading up to it. Bret/Perfect, Barry/Scorp and Marty/Doink were all really great and all feel like potential top 10 US matches of the year. I think Bret/Perfect is a definite step down from Vader/Sting, but right now it's probably my #2 match from the States. I watched Doink/Marty last year and liked it then, but I enjoyed it way more this time. The Horsemen/Blonds tag from the Clash is a match I love, but it's almost entirely for the atmosphere. I watched it months ago and thought it was a legit great match, but this time what they were actually doing in the ring didn't blow me away at all. I get a huge kick out of Flair in the first fall, but nothing else (in terms of "work") is terribly special. Need to re-watch a few things, like Benoit/Samurai and Funk/Gilbert. New Japan juniors stuff isn't my cup of tea anymore, but I wasn't paying a great deal of attention to Benoit/Samurai in the first place and it's been too long since I last saw it to go off memory. Muta/Kabuki wasn't a great match by any means, but I enjoyed it WAY more than I thought I would. Basically shtick the entire time, but my looooow expectations probably helped it big time.
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Lawler's promo here was just...holy shit it was great. The Whopper line, especially. Might be the best Lawler promo ever. The way he manages to come across as such a scumbag weasel in the WWF yet still come across as a guy that's totally in the right in Memphis is seriously amazing.
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First 20-25 minutes of this has some of the best stuff on the entire yearbook so far and a good example of why these matches can be a shit ton of fun. Everything Tenryu and Hashimoto do together is just outstanding. I'm about to watch their first singles match and I am ridiculously hyped for it. Then...I wouldn't say the match nosedived after the Tenryu elimination (which was really well done), but when arguably the best guy in the match, who is also the unquestionable "ace" of his team and practically the only viable threat, goes down halfway into it, the second half is going to lose something. What they did after the Tenryu elimination was all good stuff (agreed especially with Loss on Fujinami), but the match is basically cut off at the nuts in terms of drama. Tremendous first half, big step down in the second half...still a Hell of a match, but didn't get the chance to reach transcendent territory like it had the potential to.
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I've always really liked this show, too. 'colourful' setting fits pretty well, I think. Good match. I don't remember much of anything about their Rumble match, but I can't imagine it being much, if at all, better than this. That small package nearfall was great and totally had me biting. And yeah, the crowd chanting "1-2-3" to get under Razor's skin is really cool.
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I agree with Loss; Bob has been ruling it huge on this set. He drops another awesome interview here, maybe the best one he's done the whole year (although I'm partial to the one where he calls Cornette a piece of Scandinavian snake feces, which makes absolutely no sense but is amazing regardless). Whole segment was really good.
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Was this on Will's Eddy set? Because Eddy's dive was fucking nuts and something I figured I would've remembered. Kid kicking Eddy low seemed really out of place. Eddy was pretty clearly working heel, but it never even felt like a "taste of your own medicine" spot...just really weird and out of left field.
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Yeah, this was awful. It's as if they're TRYING to make it as bad as possible for the sake of being funny...but I don't know if they are.
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- Saturday Night
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Kawada's grumpiness is beautiful. Just belligerent as all fuck and won't take shit from anyone. If it wasn't for Tenryu and Hansen he's be my runaway WOTY at this point. I actually thought this was the July match and I had just gotten dates mixed up, so it's cool that there's another 6-man about as good as the July one (which I haven't seen in years)...because this was REALLY good.
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I liked this a lot. Really felt like two guys on the mat just poking and prodding to see if there's a weakness worth exploiting. There's moments where they'll both have a hold of a wrist or ankle and start twisting to see who releases or forces the break first. Fujiwara sprawling out with his head resting on his elbow while he has Malenko in a kneebar was also great, and a Fujiwara spot I always love.
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Yeah, this was great stuff. This is the first iteration of this match-up I've watched in about 5 years, so it's pretty cool to sort of "start at the beginning" again. How is this generally thought of in comparison to the other matches these teams had together? 6/9/95, the '93 tag league final and 5/94 are the three that stand out as the best matches the series produced...is this one closest to those? I don't know if I'd actually seen this before. Shit, I don't even remember any of their other matches (minus the ones mentioned, obviously) at this point.
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- AJPW
- Super Power Series
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Dylan (or anybody else that's watched this stuff) what would you say is the best Rose/Adonis singles match? I watched the 9/1/79 match last night, and while it was good, it felt like it was setting up something that could be awesome. They ran a great post-match bit where someone (a fan...whether they were a plant or not, I really don't know) throws a pen at Buddy, so Buddy uses it to stab Adonis in the eye. Which I loved considering the match ended with a Rip Rogers run in after Buddy and Adonis were trying to tear each others' eyes out. The rematch appears to get plenty of time and that's next on the disc, so I'll probably watch that later.
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Yeah, I'll definitely have to check that out. Although I no doubt said the same when I first heard about it and, well, here we are...
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Tentatively, I'd say top 5. Behind Steamboat and Tito...and I'm not sure I'd have anybody else ahead of him. I love the Flair match from Wrestlemania 8, but I don't think Flair was ever as good an opponent for him as Jerry (although Flair is probably top 5 as well). Warrior and Hogan are both good shouts, and I like the Warrior match from Wrestlemania 7 more than any Savage match ever bar the Steamboat match from Wrestlemania 3 (and maybe the 4/86 MSG match opposite Santana), but I don't know, I think I'd still take Jerry over Warrior as an overall opponent. And I wasn't even a big fan of the LLT match against Lawler that finished high on the Memphis poll. I imagine I'll like it more whenever I get around to re-watching it, so that'll probably solidify his spot in the top 5. Somewhere between #3-#5.