FLIK Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Vader & Stan Hansen vs Kenta Kobashi & Jun Akiyama (AJPW Real World Tag League 11/21/98) I'd drop this, thought it was okay but nothing special at all in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 Daisuke Ikeda & Mohammed Yone & Gran Naniwa vs Yuki Ishikawa & Ikuto Hidaka & Carl Greco (BattlARTS 05/10/98) - This could drop off I'm the opposite, this would be in my must have pile, thought it was a great match Katsumi Usuda vs Ryuji Yamakawa (BattlARTS 08/29/98) Easily say cut this. It wasn't bad but nowhear near yearbook worthy Hisakatsu Oya vs Greg Valentine (BattlARTS B-Cup 10/05/98) Bob Backlund vs Daisuke Ikeda (BattlARTS B-Cup 10/05/98) I'd borderline say cut on these too. They're both good solid/fun matches that I like a lot but there's nothing outstanding about either beyond having the "hey neat Backlund & Greg Valentine in Battlarts" curiosity factor and for Backlund he has much better matches thear worthy of inclusion. Great Sasuke vs Victor Krueger (BattlARTS B-Cup 10/23/98) Possibly the worst Battlarts match i've ever seen Bob Backlund vs Great Sasuke (BattlARTS B-Cup 11/23/98) Another that falls under the catagory of decent match with not really much going for it besides "wow, how weird these 2 wrestled each other" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm not sure I've ever actually seen Yamakawa vs Usuda but it feels like something that should be on here based solely on how interesting it is conceptually as the climax of a shoot style vs death match feud. With barbed wire kick pads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 as the climax of a shoot style vs death match feud It's not even the climax, Matsunaga vs Battlarts is which is on my list of greatest pro wrestling ever. With barbed wire kick pads! A nice moment but it sounds cooler on paper then it actually was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzombie1988 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 JD 7/5/1998 Jaguar Yokota and Yuko Kosugi vs Lioness and The Bloody JD 4/26/1998 Lioness Asuka vs Kyoko Inoue ARSION 2/18/1998 - Michiko Omukai vs Aja Kong and Yumi Fukawa vs Candy Okutsu AJW 8/23/1998 - Shinobu Kandori vs Manami Toyota - Rating:****1/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 These New Japan matches made Samurai, but do not appear to have made Asahi. Anyone know anything about any of these? NJPW Samurai TV 02/27/98 (Pg 1938) El Samurai & Kendo Ka Shin vs Koji Kanemoto & Norio Honaga (NJPW Tokyo 01/26/98) NJPW Samurai TV 04/17/98 (Pg 1898) Shinjiro Otani, Koji Kanemoto & Tatsuhito Takaiwa vs El Samurai, La Fiera & Dr. Wagner Jr. (NJPW Sendai 03/14/98) NJPW Samurai TV 04/25/98 (Pg 1898) Jushin Liger & Dr. Wagner Jr. vs Shinjiro Otani & Koji Kanemoto (NJPW Amagaseki 03/21/98) NJPW Samurai TV 05/23/98 (Pg 1912) El Samurai vs Koji Kanemoto (NJPW Kagoshima 04/14/98) NJPW Samurai TV 06/12/98 (Pg 1912) Shinjiro Otani, Koji Kanemoto, Dr. Wagner Jr. & Masakazu Fukuda vs El Samurai, Kendo Ka Shin, Yuji Yasuraoka & Hayato Nanjyo (NJPW Matsuda 05/16/98) NJPW Samurai TV 07/02/98 (Pg 1864) Jushin Liger, El Samurai & Kendo Ka Shin vs Shinjiro Otani, Kaz Hayashi & Tatsuhito Takaiwa (NJPW Osaka 06/03/98) NJPW Samurai TV 07/24/98 (Pg 1864) Jushin Liger, El Samurai, Dr. Wagner Jr., Kendo Ka Shin & Hayato Nanjyo vs Shinjiro Otani, Koji Kanemoto, Tatsuhito Takaiwa, Kaz Hayashi & Masakazu Fukuda (NJPW Tokyo 06/05/98, Elimination Match) NJPW Samurai TV 07/31/98 (Pg 1873) Shinjiro Otani vs Dr. Wagner Jr. (NJPW Yamagata 06/24/98) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohtani's jacket Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 A couple of the matches aired on Asahi. I've only seen the commercial clipped version of Wagner/Ohtani, which is fun but nothing essential. The Samurai TV show wasn't that much longer than an episode of World Pro Wrestling, but it may have fuller versions of the matches. That Sendai tag, for example, only 2:40 aired on WPW. You'd have to think more of it aired on Samurai TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Thanks for your help. New Japan is starting to come together. Slowly but surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Some 1998 odds and ends I'm curious if anyone knows anything about: Fuyuki-Gun Samurai TV 03/15/98 (Pg 1886) Hisakatsu Oya vs Jado (Fuyuki-Gun Tokyo 02/19/98) Yukihiro Kanemura & Mr. Gannosuke vs Koji Nakagawa & Tetsuhiro Kuroda (Fuyuki-Gun Tokyo 02/19/98) Hayabusa vs Ricky Fuyuki (Fuyuki-Gun Tokyo 02/19/98) ZEN Samurai TV 03/22/98 (Pg 1885) Masato Tanaka & Hisakatsu Oya vs Hayabusa & Ricky Fuyuki (ZEN Chiba 02/13/98) Atsushi Onita, Koji Nakagawa & Tetsuhiro Kuroda vs Yukihiro Kanemura, Gado & Mr. Gannosuke (ZEN Chiba 02/13/98) Indy World Samurai TV 09/02/98 (Pg 1871) Manami Toyota & Takako Inoue vs Yumiko Hotta & Kumiko Maekawa (Indy World Tokyo 07/22/98) Mens Teoh, Dick Togo & Shoichi Funaki vs Tarzan Goto, Azteca & Masaji Aoyagi (Indy World Tokyo 07/22/98) Pro Wrestling Kageki Vol II 10/26/98 (Pg 1730) Hiroumi Yagi vs Megumi Yabushita (Kageki 10/26/98) FULL Samurai TV 12/02/98 (Pg 1839) Momoe Nakanishi vs Nanae Takahashi (FULL Tokyo 10/22/98) Super Crazy vs Mosco de la Merced (FULL Tokyo 10/22/98) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditch Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Mitsuharu Misawa vs Jun Akiyama (AJPW Championship Carnival 04/08/98) - this aired? Kenta Kobashi & Johnny Ace vs Johnny Smith & Wolf Hawkfield (AJPW 01/26/98) - remove Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs Steve Williams & Gary Albright (AJPW 02/28/98) - finish only Kenta Kobashi vs Johnny Ace (AJPW 03/21/98) - remove Mitsuharu Misawa vs Akira Taue (AJPW 03/22/98) - finish only Masahito Kakihara & Yoshihiro Takayama vs Jun Akiyama & Masao Inoue (AJPW 03/29/98) - remove Kenta Kobashi vs Takao Omori (AJPW Championship Carnival 03/29/98) - remove Stan Hansen vs Steve Williams (AJPW Championship Carnival 03/29/98) - remove Kenta Kobashi vs Takao Omori (AJPW Championship Carnival 04/12/98) - remove Maunakea Mossman vs Satoru Asako (AJPW 06/12/98) - remove Gary Albright & Yoshihiro Takayama vs Akira Taue & Jun Izumida (AJPW 07/24/98) - finish only Mitsuharu Misawa & Takao Omori vs Kenta Kobashi & Jinsei Shinzaki (AJPW 10/24/98) - finish only Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue vs Yoshihiro Takayama & Masahito Kakihara (AJPW Real World Tag League 10/31/98) - remove. And who thought it was RWTL?! Vader & Stan Hansen vs Kenta Kobashi & Jun Akiyama (AJPW Real World Tag League 11/21/98) - finish only Mitsuharu Misawa & Yoshinari Ogawa vs Johnny Ace & Bart Gunn (AJPW Real World Tag League 11/21/98) - remove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 Add this as another Samurai TV match that has potential: NJPW Samurai TV 01/30/99 (Pg 1800) Jushin Liger & Kendo Ka Shin vs Dr. Wagner Jr & Koji Kanemoto (NJPW 12/06/98) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Here is all the 1998 US indy stuff that was on the DVDVR list or made a Schneider comp. Is this everything that should be considered? I'm guessing all of this won't go on, but I want to make sure we have a good starting point. Venom & Cham Pain vs Surge & Kid Dynamo (NWA 2000 01/03/98) Ace Darling vs Devon Storm vs Reckless Youth vs Lance Diamond (ECWA 01/17/98) Sabu & Rob Van Dam vs Hardy Boyz (ASW 02/11/98) American Kickboxer vs Suicide Kid vs Tarek the Great (IWA Mid South 02/21/98) Reckless Youth vs Super Nova vs Devon Storm vs Ace Darling (JAPW 03/22/98) Ace Darling vs Mike Quackenbush (ECWA Super 8 04/21/98) Chris Benoit vs Chris Jericho (Pillman Memorial 04/29/98) Serial Thrillaz vs Death & Destruction (OMEGA 05/08/98) Reckless Youth vs Mike Quackenbush (ECWA 07/18/98) Willow the Whisp vs Shannon Moore (MCW TV 07/18/98) Venom vs Cham Pain & Otto Schwanz (OMEGA 07/24/98) Hardy Boyz vs Venom & Shane Helms (OMEGA 07/24/98) Willow the Whisp vs Kid Dynamo (OMEGA 07/24/98, 2/3 falls) Joey Matthews vs Kid Dynamo vs Ice (OMEGA 07/31/98, Ladder Match) Surge vs Willow The Whisp (OMEGA 07/31/98) Robert Thompson vs Erin O'Grady (APW 07/98) Christopher Daniels vs Suicide Kid (APW 08/07/98) Don Montoya vs Mike Quackenbush (FWA 09/12/98) Ace Darling vs Christian Cage (ECWA 09/26/98) Christopher Daniels & Kevin Quinn vs Danny Dominion & Ace Steele (NWA 50th Anniversary 10/24/98) Eddy Guerrero & Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit & Dean Malenko (Hildebrand Tribute 11/29/98) Reckless Youth vs Stevie Richards (Steel City 11/98) Hardy Boyz vs Serial Thrillaz (OMEGA 12/05/98) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Pretty much all the OMEGA i'd include Robert Thompson vs Erin O'Grady (APW 07/98) Never seen but knowing those 2 I don't doubt it was atleast very good. Thompson is high on the list of lost great workers from the late 90's/early 2000's. The story goes that Heyman offered to bring him in to ECW be a part of the Gangstas but Thompson didn't want to move his family/be away from them (I forget). He never had the look to be on WWF & WCWs radar either and he was starting to wind down just as the post ROH super indy boom hit so he never was able to get the fame he deserved outside of the west coast and those that followed the sceen back then. Christopher Daniels vs Suicide Kid (APW 08/07/98) Real good match but i'd cut it because there's better stuff out thear. From APW i'd include this one for sure 9/12/1998 Christopher Daniels & Micael Modest vs Erin O Grady & Suicde Kid This is famous for being the match they aired parts of during Beyond the Mat but even without that it was a great match that i'd reccomend. 2/14/1998 Reckless Youth vs Devon Storm Just a great great match & a perfect representation of the indy style at the time. No clue what fed it's from other then it was an NWA show so I dunno if that'll be much help when it comes to finding a copy but if you can i'd include it for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted January 13, 2013 Report Share Posted January 13, 2013 Hisakatsu Oya vs Jado (Fuyuki-Gun Tokyo 02/19/98) - Cut, solid match, nothing special, only 6 mins airs. Yukihiro Kanemura & Mr. Gannosuke vs Koji Nakagawa & Tetsuhiro Kuroda (Fuyuki-Gun Tokyo 02/19/98) - Finish for sure, although it's short so i'd try to keep the whole thing. The important part is the big angle at the end with Go-Ito. Hayabusa vs Ricky Fuyuki (Fuyuki-Gun Tokyo 02/19/98) - Lumberjack match, really good, keep if there's room. Masato Tanaka & Hisakatsu Oya vs Hayabusa & Ricky Fuyuki (ZEN Chiba 02/13/98) - Really good match but something i'd reccomend more for the additional viewing thread then the yearbook proper. Atsushi Onita, Koji Nakagawa & Tetsuhiro Kuroda vs Yukihiro Kanemura, Gado & Mr. Gannosuke (ZEN Chiba 02/13/98) - Good match and the angle at the end with Go-Ito here sets up the payoff on the 2/19 show. Keep. The big feud at the time was FMW home team vs Atsushi Onita's ZEN group vs The recently formed Team No Respect so that's how these offshoot shows came about (or atleast ZEN's, Fuyuki was occasionally running his own side stuff anyways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted January 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Here's the other Joshi (non-GAEA) I have for '98. How is this for a list? AJW Momoe Nakanishi vs Kumiko Maekawa (AJW 03/01/98) Shinobu Kandori vs Yumiko Hotta (AJW 03/21/98) (Finish only) Manami Toyota vs Shinobu Kandori (AJW 08/23/98) JWP Devil Masami & Hikari Fukuoka vs Manami Toyota & Kaoru Ito (JWP 01/23/98) Hikari Fukuoka & Tomoko Kuzumi vs Devil Masami & Cutie Suzuki (JWP 06/14/98) Mayumi Ozaki & Reiko Amano vs Dynamite Kansai & Tomoko Miyaguchi (JWP 07/31/98) ARSION Yumi Fukawa vs Candy Okutsu (ARSION Grand Opening 02/18/98) Aja Kong vs Michiko Omukai (ARSION Grand Opening 02/18/98) Yumi Fukawa vs Michiko Omukai (ARSION Starlet 04/11/98) Candy Okutsu vs Michiko Futagami (ARSION Starlet 04/17/98) Mariko Yoshida vs Mikiko Futagami (ARSION 05/05/98) Aja Kong vs Mariko Yoshida (ARSION 06/21/98) Rie Tamada & Hiroumi Yagi vs Michiko Omukai & Yumi Fukawa (ARSION 12/18/98) Mariko Yoshida vs Candy Okutsu (ARSION 12/18/98) JD' Lioness Asuka vs Jaguar Yokota (Jd' 01/11/98) Jaguar Yokota & Yoko Kosugi vs Lioness Asuka & The Bloody (Jd' 02/02/98) Lioness Asuka vs Kyoko Inoue (Jd' 04/26/98) Jaguar Yokota & Yuko Kosugi vs Lioness Asuka & The Bloody (Jd' 07/05/98) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 Other Must Have stuff NEO 5/6/1998 (TWF Title) Kyoko Inoue © vs Lioness Asuka JD 8/2/1998 (Aired 10/17) (TWF Title) Lioness Asuka © vs Kyoko Inoue Things I haven't seen but PUNQ has highly rated (around 4* & up) NEO 1/9/1998 Mima Shimoda, Etsuko Mita & Saya Endo vs Kyoko Inoue, Chapparita Asari & Yoshiko Tamura 2/15/1998 Hikari Fukuoka vs Kyoko Inoue 2/25/1998 Mima Shimoda & Etsuko Mita vs Kyoko Inoue & Genki Misae LLPW 2/15/1998 Shinobu Kandori, Rumi Kazama & Yasha Kurenai vs Eagle Sawai, Michiko Nagashima & Sayori Okino AJW 12/26/1998 Mima Shimoda, Etsuko Mita & Kyoko Inoue vs Manami Toyota, Yumiko Hotta & Takako Inoue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenjo Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 AJW Momoe Nakanishi vs Kumiko Maekawa (AJW 03/01/98) Shinobu Kandori vs Yumiko Hotta (AJW 03/21/98) (Finish only) Manami Toyota vs Shinobu Kandori (AJW 08/23/98) Spot on with these. JWP Devil Masami & Hikari Fukuoka vs Manami Toyota & Kaoru Ito (JWP 01/23/98) Hikari Fukuoka & Tomoko Kuzumi vs Devil Masami & Cutie Suzuki (JWP 06/14/98) Mayumi Ozaki & Reiko Amano vs Dynamite Kansai & Tomoko Miyaguchi (JWP 07/31/98) Don't like the first one at all. Haven't seen the other two. I don't know if you've watched them? Just looked at Punq's list and he rated them both badly. I would recommend the following 3 matches instead: 1/11/1998 Chikayo Nagashima & Mayumi Ozaki vs Dynamite Kansai & Cuty Suzuki 2/11/1998 Manami Toyota & Kaoru Ito vs Hikari Fukuoka & Tomoko Kuzumi 3/6/1998 Hikari Fukuoka vs Tomoko Kuzumi ARSION Yumi Fukawa vs Candy Okutsu (ARSION Grand Opening 02/18/98) Aja Kong vs Michiko Omukai (ARSION Grand Opening 02/18/98) Yumi Fukawa vs Michiko Omukai (ARSION Starlet 04/11/98) Candy Okutsu vs Michiko Futagami (ARSION Starlet 04/17/98) Mariko Yoshida vs Mikiko Futagami (ARSION 05/05/98) Aja Kong vs Mariko Yoshida (ARSION 06/21/98) Rie Tamada & Hiromi Yagi vs Michiko Omukai & Yumi Fukawa (ARSION 12/18/98) Mariko Yoshida vs Candy Okutsu (ARSION 12/18/98) Not stuff I've watched for ages. Looks fine. JD' Lioness Asuka vs Jaguar Yokota (Jd' 01/11/98) Jaguar Yokota & Yoko Kosugi vs Lioness Asuka & The Bloody (Jd' 02/02/98) Lioness Asuka vs Kyoko Inoue (Jd' 04/26/98) Jaguar Yokota & Yuko Kosugi vs Lioness Asuka & The Bloody (Jd' 07/05/98) Didn't like the 1st match here. There are a couple of strong secondary matches on the other shows here: 2/2 Megumi Yabushita & Sumie Sakai vs Momoe Nakanishi & Nanae Takahashi 7/5 Sumie Sakai vs Hiromi Yagi NEO 1/9/1998 Mima Shimoda, Etsuko Mita & Saya Endo vs Kyoko Inoue, Chapparita Asari & Yoshiko Tamura 2/15/1998 Hikari Fukuoka vs Kyoko Inoue 2/25/1998 Mima Shimoda & Etsuko Mita vs Kyoko Inoue & Genki Misae I wouldn't touch either of these LCO matches. They have an 8 woman elimination match on the 2/15 show which is better than both, though not must see. Plus go with the 5/6 match Flik recommended. LLPW 2/15/1998 Shinobu Kandori, Rumi Kazama & Yasha Kurenai vs Eagle Sawai, Michiko Nagashima & Sayori Okino Yep this is good. AJW 12/26/1998 Mima Shimoda, Etsuko Mita & Kyoko Inoue vs Manami Toyota, Yumiko Hotta & Takako Inoue From the Jaguar Yokota retirement show rather than AJW. Decent though not essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 We've done a lot of the work on the '98 set in parallel to '97. While this is still at least a few months away, I want to turn my attention here, so if anyone has anything else to add, please do so. The sooner, the better would be great so I can at least finalize a listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajtroma Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I Would definitely second the Willow the Wisp vs Kid Dynamo match that was on Music City Wrestling that one night. I remember, vividly, watching MCW every Tuesday on some shitbird station in Mt. Carmel, Illinois and just being BLOWN AWAY by this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 We cannot find anyone who has Music City TV. We'd like to include it, but no one has it, or if they do, they aren't sharing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 We cannot find anyone who has Music City TV. We'd like to include it, but no one has it, or if they do, they aren't sharing it.Not even Steve or Jeff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Did some digging and slightly_twiztid (or however you spell it) at CMax has some. SMWFAN is probably worth asking, too. Tim has this w/ the OMEGA guys: DVD 587-MUSIC CITY WRESTLING TV 7/18—7/24/98 (1:59) GD QUAL. Preview this Nashville-based promotion as it's invaded by 3 of the OMEGA boys (7/18 TV)--Tennessee Volz (Dunn & Riggins) juice open 3 guys/Black Sheep (Wolfie & Flash) squash/Recon attacks Colorado Kid/Chirs Michaels attacks Shane Eden & puts make-up on him/Kid Dynamo vs. Willow the Whisp/Billy Black vs. Rex King brawl/Volz vs. Sheep brawl//(7/24 TV)--Hardy Boys squash/Brian Keyes appears as Lance Erickson/ continuation of feuds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLIK Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 We cannot find anyone who has Music City TV. We'd like to include it, but no one has it, or if they do, they aren't sharing it. What was your source for the stuff on the 97 set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I don't know, but Will already had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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