(BP) Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hypothetically, if there had been no brand split, do you guys think business would have slid more with HHH on top of both shows? If their only saving grace was the Smackdown 6 guys keeping some of the hardcore's during that time, then that says a lot about HHH's run as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'll throw out there that HHH/HBK killed Columbus as a city for several years with their god awful HIAC match. I've had more than a few hardcore fans say that was the last straw for them with live WWE shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Hypothetically, if there had been no brand split, do you guys think business would have slid more with HHH on top of both shows? If their only saving grace was the Smackdown 6 guys keeping some of the hardcore's during that time, then that says a lot about HHH's run as well. In preperation for this (since I'm on the prosecution), I've been looking at the ratings a lot, and it's quite interesting to watch the steady slide on Raw in 2002 while Smackdown stays consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 At the time, Vince actually blamed declining ratings on there not being enough support for HHH and doubled down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Yeah, that's the other big thing against Trips: He had the undying approval of Vince behind him and still did crappy. The idea of really getting behind someone who doesn't get the support he thinks he deserves is the ultimate egotistical move when they don't want to admit they're wrong. Because when nobody can tell you that, who are you going to believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 booker t was inexcusable, though. if it weren't for katie vick i would say that was the worst thing HHH was ever involved in, just by virtue of the angle they took and the end result. Booker got screwed by the Goldberg signing. He couldn't have gotten a "WrestleMania moment" win that lasts a solid period of time because he would have had to drop the title by May or June so that they could have gotten a transitional reign before giving the belt to Bill at SummerSlam (you know, if they had done things logically there). Unless they had put Goldberg on SD, which was already kind of congested up top, especially with big men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 There was a Raw recapper that used to clock how much time HHH was on screen during that really bad period from 2002-2003 and I think he was averaging over 35 minutes per episode of Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sorrow Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 "Douglas Wambaugh, for the Son In Law Your honor, I move that these charges be dropped on the basis of Double Jeopardy Or Millionth Jeopardy, as the case may be." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerpride Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 There was a Raw recapper that used to clock how much time HHH was on screen during that really bad period from 2002-2003 and I think he was averaging over 35 minutes per episode of Raw. JHawk at TSM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artDDP Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Since I saw it live in 2003 I've thought that Triple H taking so long to pin Booker at WrestleMania was just because he was pissed Booker landed on his head while hitting the Houston hangover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted July 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 The podcast is up, and a lot of the thoughts here were read on the show, which ended up being a lot of fun. For those who can't be bothered to click on publications and podcasts, the link is here: http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean.com/mf/web/ay7qrj/SCGRadio6-TheTrialOfTripleH.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Man in Blak Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Interesting discussion in that episode, though I was a little surprised by the verdict at the end. I guess that's what happens when your case is at the mercy of the whims of the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Faulconer Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 It could be said that HHH wasn't capable of cutting 20 minute promos either. It is hard to hold that against WWE for not pushing guys based on that criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaymeFuture Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Interesting discussion in that episode, though I was a little surprised by the verdict at the end. I guess that's what happens when your case is at the mercy of the whims of the court. Agreed, I thought we won the one we actually lost and lost the one we actually won. ¬_¬ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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