kas Posted July 3, 2020 Report Posted July 3, 2020 Yeah, Gedo has earned my trust at this point with how Jay White and Okada were almost instantly rehabilitated after slow starts so I am definitely willing to give it a chance. And yeah, Okada has been disappointing this tournament, especially the Nagata match. His matches with the New Japan oldies are some of the more underrated in recent years so I was so hyped for it, but he was so dull. Thankfully he was great against Hiromu. Quote
Boss Rock Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 I actually liked Okada-Nagata quite a bit, thought it deviated from his formula. The Gedo and Taiji matches were fine for what they were, just had too much BC overbooking. But yeah, the Hiromu match ruled. Some folks seemed to think it underwhelmed and I suppose it could have been a tighter, more fast-paced match but what we got was pretty great. Quote
Migs Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Boss Rock said: I actually liked Okada-Nagata quite a bit, thought it deviated from his formula. The Gedo and Taiji matches were fine for what they were, just had too much BC overbooking. But yeah, the Hiromu match ruled. Some folks seemed to think it underwhelmed and I suppose it could have been a tighter, more fast-paced match but what we got was pretty great. Yeah, I don't think it underwhelmed at all, especially when worked with no crowd. That match feels way different if you have a crowd losing its mind on the Hiromu near-falls, and then being brought up and crushed by the finish. Great match, certainly the best of the tournament. Quote
MoS Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 Yeah, I wouldn't say it underwhelmed as much as it was almost a cruel tease of how hot it could have been. It's why as the match was happening, I kept hoping that Okada went over. Okada definitely is someone whose work "needs" the crowd than some other wrestlers. His offence is not brutal as much as it is almost graceful, and it's something that really needs a crowd going apeshit for it. Quote
sek69 Posted July 5, 2020 Report Posted July 5, 2020 YOH tweeted out his knee injury is a torn ACL, so I guess that means we'll be seeing some kind of tournament for the Jr tag titles. Quote
Coffey Posted July 5, 2020 Report Posted July 5, 2020 I really liked the SHO Vs. Shingo match from night, I think 3? Impressed me. I would be down with a SHO singles run now that YOH is hurt. Quote
WingedEagle Posted July 5, 2020 Report Posted July 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Coffey said: I really liked the SHO Vs. Shingo match from night, I think 3? Impressed me. I would be down with a SHO singles run now that YOH is hurt. You should check out their match from last year's BOSJ. Quote
kas Posted July 5, 2020 Report Posted July 5, 2020 Shingo vs SHO was great, not quite on the level of their BOSJ match from last year, but their NEVER match should be fireworks. Quote
kas Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Okada vs EVIL wasn't bad, but far and away their worst match together. These two work so much better together in the G1. The BC run-in was also really weird, unless it's going to lead to something bigger. Â EDIT: Literally five minutes later. I should be more patient. Quote
Boss Rock Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 5 hours ago, kas said: Okada vs EVIL wasn't bad, but far and away their worst match together. These two work so much better together in the G1. The BC run-in was also really weird, unless it's going to lead to something bigger. Â EDIT: Literally five minutes later. I should be more patient. Haha. I figured that meant he was joining but the reveal was still really well-done. I agree that the match was solid but definitely their worst. The Okada Special is a reliable formula, but the overbooking and lack of a hot finishing stretch hurt it. I was fine with the Cobra Clutch but I think it's time to drop it. Quote
kas Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 EVIL just cannot go long. He's at his best going short and fast, something their G1 matches absolutely nail. And yeah Okada needs to get better at it or drop it. Red Ink is a much better-looking submission. Quote
WingedEagle Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 Is KENTA ill or hurt? Sidelined out of COVID-concerns on his part? I don't recall if his absence has been addressed. Quote
Migs Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 32 minutes ago, WingedEagle said: Is KENTA ill or hurt? Sidelined out of COVID-concerns on his part? I don't recall if his absence has been addressed. He lives in Florida, can't get into the country without a significant quarantine. My assumption has been that they're saving the gaijin for the G1, when there's probably big enough houses to justify flying everyone in early, putting them up, etc. Quote
WingedEagle Posted July 11, 2020 Report Posted July 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Migs said: He lives in Florida, can't get into the country without a significant quarantine. My assumption has been that they're saving the gaijin for the G1, when there's probably big enough houses to justify flying everyone in early, putting them up, etc. Thanks, didn't realize he still resided here. Hopefully they're able to bring in the big names for October. Quote
sek69 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 Man......watching Dominion with an actual real live (socially distanced) crowd is giving me "this could be us, but you playin" vibes. Quote
sek69 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 I can only imagine how messed up Tenzan's legs must be. Dude's basically walking on his ankles and has been for probably years at this point. Quote
sek69 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 YO blew out his knee at the worst possible time, poor dude's about to get Marty Jannetty'd at the rate SHO is going. Quote
sek69 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 BTW, the clear MVP of this show has been Liger's fruit themed tropical shirt. Quote
sek69 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 That's about as strong as you could possibly put over new tag champs. Quote
sek69 Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 2020 continues to hold surprises with DICK TOGO. Quote
kas Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 Naito must suffer. Can't believe he's never had a proper iwgp reign. Â EDIT: Letting the initial shock wear off, I thought the main event was decent, better than the Okada match. Both matches desperately needed a proper crowd to react to everything going on. Shingo vs SHO was a banger as expected, and the tag match was MOTN, great to see it get so much time. That ending where they just destroy Tanahashi was amazing. Good show overall. Quote
Boss Rock Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 Dick Togo! Holy crap. And yeah, while I figured EVIL had a much better chance to win now that jumped ship, still was not expecting that result. I like that they're doing something different, but it's unfortunate Naito never got a proper reign. Not to mention 30+ minute EVIL matches are not something I'm particularly looking forward to. Quote
MoS Posted July 12, 2020 Report Posted July 12, 2020 It would honestly be pretty boring if Okada is the one who ends EVIL's reign. Quote
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