Strummer Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Brock v Taker official for Summerslam "Stephanie McMahon's Diva revolution" Never change WWE. Never change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LariatMMBOPPO Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 What the fuck was that dive by Charlotte? Looked horrible. I already gave up on her but I hooe she really isn't the one pegged to be the centerpiece of the division. They've needed a tall, blonde, moderately athletic division centerpiece that benefits from nepotism ever since Michelle McCool left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 The Authority have been on-screen for over a half-hour now and haven't acknowledged Rollins once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Those jumpsuits New Day wore were FIRE. There's nowhere in public I could wear them but I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(BP) Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Kofi's skip-clapping has been the best thing on the show so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Bo trying to hold down Brock during the brawl!! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 It has probably been done before but I loved Brock's strategy of just avoiding the 50 jobbers in the ring and running around the ring to get to Taker. Never seen that one before. God for a huge man he is so quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedEagle Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 That Brock/Taker brawl was spectacular. Made the most out of a common angle and the match feels like a huge deal now . Throwing a little shade at it, its very clear from looking at who was involved in keeping them apart that the only people on the roster that matter are Reigns, Orton, Cena, Wyatt (and Harper), maybe Rusev for some reason. Anyone else I'm missing? Everyone else was out there as part of the job squad keeping the main eventers from getting their hands on each other -- Cesaro, Ambrose, Owens, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 That was a fantastic segment but still depressing. No doubt the top stars in the promotion are Taker, Brock, HHH and Steph. All of those are even being pushed over Cena. It's 2015. Depressing as hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Ending was bullshit. Brock shouldn't have stopped without guns drawn. What the hell did he go to Japan to visit Saito for if he didn't even learn anything from him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Another HHH and Steph segment!! Jesus fuck stop this crap!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 That Brock/Taker brawl was spectacular. Made the most out of a common angle and the match feels like a huge deal now . Throwing a little shade at it, its very clear from looking at who was involved in keeping them apart that the only people on the roster that matter are Reigns, Orton, Cena, Wyatt (and Harper), maybe Rusev for some reason. Anyone else I'm missing? Everyone else was out there as part of the job squad keeping the main eventers from getting their hands on each other -- Cesaro, Ambrose, Owens, etc. Rusev was out there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 That Brock/Taker brawl was spectacular. Made the most out of a common angle and the match feels like a huge deal now . Throwing a little shade at it, its very clear from looking at who was involved in keeping them apart that the only people on the roster that matter are Reigns, Orton, Cena, Wyatt (and Harper), maybe Rusev for some reason. Anyone else I'm missing? Everyone else was out there as part of the job squad keeping the main eventers from getting their hands on each other -- Cesaro, Ambrose, Owens, etc. Yeah a little worrisome that you put Kevin Owens in the same circle with Bo Dallas and Jack Swagger and the Ascension It is a little encouraging that Taker can do that segment without passing out from exhaustion or a number of other issues. Now hoping Taker doesn't cut a concussion in the first 2 minutes like last time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Bray feels like a much bigger star when paired with Harper. Instantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I realized watching that segment that WWE officially isn't for me, and that's too bad. All I could think after a legitimately great segment was that it shows how they see Cesaro, Rusev and Owens when they are lumped in with the rest of those guys. I'd rather just enjoy a great angle like that, so I think it's just passed me by. I'm too jaded. At least I still love the old stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strummer Posted July 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I realized watching that segment that WWE officially isn't for me, and that's too bad. All I could think after a legitimately great segment was that it shows how they see Cesaro, Rusev and Owens when they are lumped in with the rest of those guys. I'd rather just enjoy a great angle like that, so I think it's just passed me by. I'm too jaded. At least I still love the old stuff. That's a perfectly logical, acceptable complaint though. I thought the segment was great and depressing at the same time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Oh come on. Was it really in question whether those guys are a tier or more below two legends/part timers? The angle is supposed to be that it takes an entire company to hold them apart...rather poorly. That is how much they hate each other. Now that said, I turned the television off after that not because Kevin Owens was in the ring holding them apart with everyone else but because Taker is already being booked too strongly. This is a fifty years old man who had nothing left a year ago when he got wrecked by Brock. Summerslam main event or not, they shouldnt be rolling around in an even stevens way. It should be Brock smashing him into the mat til only blood puddle is left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I realized watching that segment that WWE officially isn't for me, and that's too bad. All I could think after a legitimately great segment was that it shows how they see Cesaro, Rusev and Owens when they are lumped in with the rest of those guys. I'd rather just enjoy a great angle like that, so I think it's just passed me by. I'm too jaded. At least I still love the old stuff. That's a perfectly logical, acceptable complaint though. I thought the segment was great and depressing at the same time I really don't think it is a "logical, acceptable" fan complaint. When you get your most enjoyment out of watching wrestling are you just watching it as a fan or as an armchair booker? If you can't watch WWE and NOT be an armchair booker you're probably not going to enjoy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 The segment was depressing BECAUSE of how much effort was put into it. You know when their heart is into it and they feel somebody is worth their time they can produce amazing stuff. Why can't they do angles like that with someone like Sheamus or Ambrose? Somebody who needs it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 The segment was depressing BECAUSE of how much effort was put into it. You know when their heart is into it and they feel somebody is worth their time they can produce amazing stuff. Why can't they do angles like that with someone like Sheamus or Ambrose? Somebody who needs it? Because no one buys them being so supercharged it takes a company to break them up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chief Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 The segment was depressing BECAUSE of how much effort was put into it. You know when their heart is into it and they feel somebody is worth their time they can produce amazing stuff. Why can't they do angles like that with someone like Sheamus or Ambrose? Somebody who needs it?Because no one buys them being so supercharged it takes a company to break them up? I don't buy that it takes 30 guys to separate 2 guys anyway, even if one is Brock Lesnar. Especially when you have guys like Henry, Swagger and Rusev in there. It's wrestling. It's the promotions duty to make you buy into whatever their presenting. The reason why nobody would buy something like that with a Sheamus type is that they don't even fucking try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 The inclusion of Cesaro, Rusev and Owens wouldn't have bugged me if Cena, Orton, The Shield and Bray Wyatt were also included. When they left them out, it was clear they did so because they see them as more important than the other three. Like I said, I put it on me, not WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm not even sure it's really WWE's fault, but when I see hierarchy in other wrestling companies, it makes wrestling more fun and creates intrigue. When I see hierarchy in WWE, it doesn't come across as hierarchy so much as it comes across as high school cliques with the "real" stars sitting at the popular table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slasher Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 The segment was depressing BECAUSE of how much effort was put into it. You know when their heart is into it and they feel somebody is worth their time they can produce amazing stuff. Why can't they do angles like that with someone like Sheamus or Ambrose? Somebody who needs it?Because no one buys them being so supercharged it takes a company to break them up?I don't buy that it takes 30 guys to separate 2 guys anyway, even if one is Brock Lesnar. Especially when you have guys like Henry, Swagger and Rusev in there. It's wrestling. It's the promotions duty to make you buy into whatever their presenting. The reason why nobody would buy something like that with a Sheamus type is that they don't even fucking try. I agree the onus is on the company to make these guys more important but that kind of angle? It is something you have to earn. I have never ever seen them book upper midcarders or even lower tier main eventers in an angle like that. It's always been guys like Austin, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Brock Lesnar etc. They were the only guys that the angle was right to be used for in today's storylines. But again, yes the WWae needs to get people over to the point they can do that stuff. They failed. Loss, I do understand what you are saying and you are right in that excluding a few names means they are above the dirty grunt work, I know. But lets say in kayfabe, you are Triple H. Are you really going to tell John Cena to go out there and risk injury to himself in an issue that has nothing to do with him? He is a moneymaker. In sports, those guys aren't running wind sprints with everyone else. They are in a tub playing with their iPads. It's just the way things go in life. When you reach a certain status you are afforded more respect and given more perks and leeway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Not even so much Cena as everyone else they include in that category, save *maybe* Rollins, but only because he's the champion and had a match with Brock the night before, so it wouldn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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