jdw Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 So they're going on about this being the first iron man's match with women: http://jezebel.com/little-girls-and-iron-women-nxt-takeover-makes-womens-1735525052 I assume other women have done this in the past, be it in Japan or in an indy fed. Toyota had the Toyota vs AJW iron match where she took on the entire AJW roster, which went 60:00 if I recall. Does anyone know of any non-tag iron man matches with women?
donsem43 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Yoshiko Tamura did a similar deal in NEO. Pretty sure Jd' ran a few iron man matches in the early 00's with The Bloody, Sumie Sakai, Megumi Yabushita, and Fang Suzuki.
El-P Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Not an iron-man match, but there was the infamous Toyota vs Kyoko 1H match in 95 of course. And yeah JD's had a bunch back then. Fang Suzuki going an hour…
El McKell Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 The Manami Toyota gauntlet was a series of thirty 1 minute time limit matches, so it went a little under 30 minutes. I think the Yoshiko Tamura thing was the same deal but with 31 matches.
donsem43 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 For non-gimmick matches, Tamura went 60 mins vs. Azumi Hyuga in '06. This year there has been two 30 min draws, Kairi Hojo vs. Meiko Satomura in Stardom (6/14) and Mio Shirai vs. Arisa Nakajima in M.I.O. (6/19).
Zenjo Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 Surely it should be an Iron Woman match? The JWP Thunder Queen Battle from 1993 was essentially iron man points scoring, but the rules were a bit different with a mixture of singles and tag matches. Jd' ran a glut of LSD rules matches in 2000-01. LSD2000 meant that the match lasted 2000 seconds. I think that they had a variety of different rules, but it was generally whoever got the last fall before the time limit expired was the winner. So the first true Iron Woman match I can find is The Bloody vs Sumie Sakai from Nov 23, 2001. That went the hour.
Loss Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 They called it an Iron Man match because Lita told HHH that calling it an Iron Woman match would be demeaning.
tim Posted October 10, 2015 Report Posted October 10, 2015 I do think calling it an Iron woman match would have felt a little gimmicky -- in a bad way. The match has always been billed as an Iron man match, obviously, and traditionally is one of the biggest stipulations WWE has, maybe the biggest. Calling it an Iron woman match I think would have immediately set it apart from that legacy, making it feel like a little immitation gimmick to throw to the women. Sort of like a "Lumber jill" match sort of thing, but obviously even then not as bad. Though with the success of this match, and the fact the fans chanted "Iron woman" for it, I think they could bill future matches as an Iron woman match without it feeling lesser.
jdw Posted October 12, 2015 Author Report Posted October 12, 2015 The Manami Toyota gauntlet was a series of thirty 1 minute time limit matches, so it went a little under 30 minutes. I think the Yoshiko Tamura thing was the same deal but with 31 matches. I thought Toyota's was 2x30, as in she went through the roster twice. But looking it up, it was 1x30. Of course that does match what the Next women did, and it's not like they had to face Aja, Hotta and Kyoko.
donsem43 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 Don't know why I didn't check sooner, but Cheerleader Melissa had a 30 minute Iron Man match with Courtney Rush on the 4/19/14 NCW Femme Fatales show. I was shocked to find that was the only Iron Man match Melissa has ever done. I was expecting to find that she had done 3 or 4 of them.
BillThompson Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Don't know why I didn't check sooner, but Cheerleader Melissa had a 30 minute Iron Man match with Courtney Rush on the 4/19/14 NCW Femme Fatales show. I was shocked to find that was the only Iron Man match Melissa has ever done. I was expecting to find that she had done 3 or 4 of them. I thought she did one versus LuFisto at the 2014 Mania weekend. Or maybe that was just a really long 2/3 falls, not completely sure...
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