jcmmnx Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Cro Cop was the second baddest dude in all of MMA when Del Rio fought him. I can guarantee you that current day 150lb Conor would shit his pants at the thought of fighting prime Cro Cop. He can't even handle a punch from pillow fist Nate Diaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Wait, who brought up Cro Cop? I'm here to laugh at Del Rio and his MMA credentials. Alberto Del Rio got his ass beat by Kaz Nakamura too. He never beat anyone anywhere close to good, and would get his ass beat by the current UFC Featherweight Champion. Del Rio has MMA experience, but he only has one win over a guy with a Wikipedia page. That dude was in the middle of an 11-fight losing streak. Conor is one of the best fighters on the planet, Del Rio at his peak of powers would get his ass beat by McGregor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmmnx Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Conor is elite at 145lbs a weight he has to turn himself into a skeleton during weigh ins to make. His one fight above that weight saw him get rocked by a guy not know for his punching power. How does an elite MMA fighter at 145 do against an amateur wrestling stud who out weighs him by 90 lbs like Jason Jordan in a shoot? I'm guessing not very good especially if the amateur wrestler gets some submission defense training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Conor is elite at 145lbs a weight he has to turn himself into a skeleton during weigh ins to make. His one fight above that weight saw him get rocked by a guy not know for his punching power. How does an elite MMA fighter at 145 do against an amateur wrestling stud who out weighs him by 90 lbs like Jason Jordan in a shoot? I'm guessing not very good especially if the amateur wrestler gets some submission defense training. If you had to guess, how many hours of actual fight training do you think the average professional wrestler have under their belt? Conor McGregor's full time job is becoming a better fighter. You go to your job for 8 hours a day and sit at a desk, he spends that time fighting. Jason Jordan was an elite amateur wrestler, but when was the last time he wrestled an elite striker throwing heat at his face? McGregor most likely wrestled an elite amateur wrestler sometime this week. McGregor lost to Nate Diaz, a tough as nails, veteran fighter, who is crafty as all hell and isn't an easy win for anyone. You are talking about some dude who wrestled back in the day, who doesn't spend any time training to fight, beating one of the 10 or so best fighters on the planet. That is pretty much absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I don't care how good McGregor is. A featherweight isn't beating the ass of a trained fighter who outweighs him by 100 pounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I don't care how good McGregor is. A featherweight isn't beating the ass of a trained fighter who outweighs him by 100 pounds. Define trained, because trained is extremely relative. I'd argue that most if not all of the wrestlers in the WWE aren't trained when it comes to fighting shoot fights. Lesnar is probably the only guy on the roster who could win a fight in the UFC, and even though he is a former champion he didn't do very well fighting guys who he couldn't outwrestle. Lesnar is pretty much the biggest strongest guy in UFC history, but I'd be willing to bet the top 5 fighters at 205 would probably beat him. He's much bigger, much stronger, and has outstanding wrestling, but those guys have much better overall skills. If they can avoid his takedowns, which I think those guys could, they'd be able to out strike him. I may even take Luke Rockholdt over Lesnar at this point, and he fights at 185. Being an elite amateur wrestler is a great foundation for an MMA fighter, but it isn't going to get you very far in an MMA fight. McGregor is great at defending takedowns, and there really isn't anyone on the WWE roster who could give him any problems anywhere else in a fight. If he can stay standing, and/or defend himself once on the ground he smashes those dudes. If I had to take a bet on McGregor or anyone on the WWE roster not named Brock Lesnar in a shoot fight, I take McGregor 100% of the time. He is a shoot fighter, those dudes are pro wrestlers. Why does anyone think a bunch of dudes who wrestled a decade ago could win a fight against one of the best fighters on the planet. Sure they're bigger, but how many of them have any striking skills whatsoever or even grappling skills if they do happen to take a UFC fighter to the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 I just assume that most top-level MMA fighters in 2016 are so used to fighting within the current confines of the sport as it has developed that Heath Slater charging at them with flailing arms like this would befuddle them into getting smacked in the face repeatedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goc Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 There's no way McGregor could take a Superman Punch from Roman Reigns and not get knocked the fuck out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 There's no way McGregor could take a Superman Punch from Roman Reigns and not get knocked the fuck out. I really wish that like button worked. Well played, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 I'm not saying Del Rio is a UFC-caliber fighter. But he's not just some guy off the street either. I'm sure he knows enough to not "get his ass beat" by a featherweight. Combat sports have weight classes for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 15, 2016 Report Share Posted August 15, 2016 CM Punk on wrestlers' reactions to Conor: "I think the thing that shocked me the most about what Conor said was the number of people who work there who responded to him who should know better … I don’t feel they got worked, they got worked. ... Ric Flair, c’mon. Just stop. Just knock it off." http://www.cagesideseats.com/2016/8/15/12492774/cm-punk-pro-wrestlers-got-worked-by-conor-mcgregor Smartest thing he's said in over a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 it wouldn't shock me if the winner of McGregor Diaz is at Raw on Monday . Seriously, what would the purpose of all this shit be . The ESPN articles/gossip, the lesnar fight, the Twitter beef, etc. They are doing a lot of working to promote something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blehschmidt Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 McGregor maybe, I can't see them letting Nate Diaz anywhere near a live mic on Raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supremebve Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 McGregor maybe, I can't see them letting Nate Diaz anywhere near a live mic on Raw. Oh my god, that would be the best Raw segment in years. Nate Diaz' interviews, for those of you who don't know, often are just long ass strings of fucks. When asked about his win against McGregor, he simply said, "I ain't surprised, motherfucker." He once submitted a guy while giving a double bird to the camera. Their pre-fight press conferences were Conor being clever and articulate, and Diaz responding with, "Fuck you." Nate Diaz is going to be Nate Diaz all of the time, and putting a live mic in front of him will always be an adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Samoa Joe gets it: "I think Conor McGregor is a promoter, and I'm not here to promote any of his fights. If he were here in WWE, that would be a different story, but until that happens I don't feel like I need to address it." http://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2016/08/16/nxt-champ-samoa-joe-responds-to-conor-mcgregor-calls-out-wwes-brock-lesnar-in-exclusive-interview/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-P Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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