Grimmas Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Super Viernes January 18, 1985 Arena Mexico Mexico City, Mexico Match 1: Gran Cochisse y Tony Acre y Vulcano contra Negro Casas y Talisman y Moguro 1. Negro Casas sub Tony Acre (3:02) Talisman pin Vulcano (3:03) 2. Tony Acre pin Talisman (4:25) Gran Cochisse pin Moguro (4:28) 3. Negro Casas pin Gran Cochisse (11:42) Winner: rudos (1/3) Match Time: 19:12 Match 2: Valente Fernandez y Ringo Mendoza y Cachorro Mendoza contra Emilio Charles Jr. y Chris Adams y Gino Hernandez 1. Emilio Charles Jr. pin Valente Fernandez (6:56) 2. Chris Adams pin Ringo Mendoza (8:20) Gino Hernandez pin Cachorro Mendoza (8:21) Winner: rudos (1/2) Match Time: 15:17 Match 3: Solar y Super Astro y Ultraman contra Los Villanos (III y IV y V) 1. Solar sub Villano III (7:48) 2. Villano IV pin Super Astro (3:20) Villano V pin Ultraman (3:24) 3. Villano III pin Solar (13:49) Winner: rudos (2/3) Match Time: 25:01 Semi-Main Event: Los Brazos (Brazo de Oro y Brazo de Plata y El Brazo) contra Jerry Estrada y Espanto Jr. y Kato Kung Lee 1. Kato Kung Lee sub Brazo de Oro (5:52) 2. Brazo de Plata pin Jerry Estrada (8:25) 3. Brazo de Oro sub Kato Kung Lee (12:30) El Brazo pin Espanto Jr. (12:32) Winner: tecnicos (2/3) Match Time: 26:47 Main Event: Cien Caras y Perro Aguayo contra El Satanico y MS-1 1. MS-1 pin Cien Caras (5:02) 2. Perro Aguayo DQ Satanico (7:48) 3. Perro Aguayo pin Satanico (9:25) Winner: tecnicos (2/3) Match Time: 22:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I'm taking requests for which two matches appear on Television this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I think you should put the match involving Chris Adams & Gino Hernandez and the main event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 I think you should put the match involving Chris Adams & Gino Hernandez and the main event. Â I think this is the best way to kind of hook us in and then the other match should be someone you want to showcase in upcoming months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 The Main Event and the one with the gringos does seem like the way to go, though I would also accept either the Brazos or the Villanos match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 I agree that we as leaders of mostly USA promotions, I think we got to see Adams and Hernandez. As for the other TV match, it would be nice to get more familiar with whoever you are going to push if there is such a thing in Lucha Libre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentofenton Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 As I am catching up on all the action from the new year, this has been super intriguing and a very fun read. I appreciate, like everyone has stated, the format you have going here. It is extremely creative and helps us that don't follow the Mexican culture as much as we'd like. Thank you for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 excerpts from the Wrestling Observer Newsletter Letter's Page for January 23th, 1985 Dear Dave, This was the best week of CMLL since I started watching! Last week we had a promo from The Dynamic Duo about coming into CMLL this week and boy did it deliver. If you thought The Sheiks had heat, you have not seen anything yet. The Dynamic Ones came to the ring with American flags and just pissed off the entire arena. They were teamed up with an ugly man called Emilio Charles Jr. who seems to be pretending he is very beautiful. It's kind of funny, but he is pretty hated too. Especially hated teaming with the Americans here. They took on Valente Fernandez, the guy who lost the title the first week, and the Mendoza brothers who are the tag team champions. Thy Dynamic team won two straight falls and took every opportunity to piss off the crowd. They challenged the Mendozas for the tag team titles next week! That's going to be a hoot. Which brings me to a question, how is CMLL taping these? They seem to be the same building every time, but how many shows are they taping at once? I don't really get this structure. This match was followed by a cool video package of Perro Aguayo who was seemingly playing chess, however El Satanico's face appeared on the King chess piece and started insulting him and saying he would take him out of wrestling. Very bizarre, but very cool. We then got a video package of Los Villanos facing the team of Super Astro, Solar, and Ultraman. Two masked teams. The Villanos were rougher, but the other team was really slick. The match seemed to have a lot of cool highlights, including some incredible dives by one of the Astro, Solar, and Ultraman team members (sorry can't tell them apart, they are all in similar masks and outfits.) The main event had Los Brazos (the masked team where one of them was hugely fat from the first episode) taking on Jerry Estrada (kind of a heel version of Ricky Morton looking guy), Espanto Jr. (who was in a black outfit with a cool mask), and Kato Kung Lee (a masked ninja?). This went close to 30 minutes and was all action. To my surprise the fat Brazos (they kept saying Super Porky on commentary) was incredibly agile and his a nice array of flying. In fact everyone here was really athletic and acrobatic. Los Brazos won in the third fall when two Brazos pinned Espanto and Kung lee simultaneously. A really fun match and a great way to end the show. Stan Grimmas Thanks again Stan, I've heard about Los Brazos and am hoping you could start sending me the tapes. The Satanico and Perro feud seems to be heating up as well, I've heard houses are really good with them headlining shows on opposing teams. As for your question, CMLL runs 6-8 shows a week on a weekly schedule. Every Friday night they run their big "Super Viernes" i.e. Super Friday show at Arena Mexico and show highlights on the TV. That is what you are watching. What is interesting is that they own Arena Mexico themselves. Dave Metlzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 I wonder if Dick Togo was a fan of Super Porky, growing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Spectacular stuff. Love the Dynamic Duo down here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 The Perro Aguayo/El Satanico piece looked so corny yet so awesome at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Thanks for all your kind remarks. Sorry I'm always a few days or so behind, but that's what you are going to get. Pretend news travels fast from Mexico and the Observer is mailed out slowly. Upcoming Super Friday show. Super Viernes on January 25, 1985 at Arena Mexico Match 1: Solar y Popitekus y Tony Salazar contra Los Missioneros de la Muerte (Negro Navarro y El Texano y El Signo) Match 2: El Hijo del Santo y Hombre Bala y Alfonso Dantes contra Fuerza Guerrera y El Dandy y Tony Benetto Match 3: Gran Cochisse y Atlantis y Tony Acre y Vulcano contra Los Guerreros del Universo (Negro Casas y Black Terry y Blue Panther y Babe Face) Semi-Main Event: Mexican National Tag Team Titles Match: Ringo Mendoza y Cachorro Mendoza (Champions) contra Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams Main Event: Sangre Chicano contra Pirata Morgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Really interested in the semi-main event! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 I like the idea of Sangre Chicana and Pirata Morgan main-eventing a show a good decade and a half before their Apuestas matches. You really seem to be having fun with this dream roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Really interested in the semi-main event! Â Hope it doesn't dissapoint. Â I like the idea of Sangre Chicana and Pirata Morgan main-eventing a show a good decade and a half before their Apuestas matches. You really seem to be having fun with this dream roster. Â They had that brawl to the back a few weeks back, so things are building. Trying to get a number of good hate feuds going so I can start running mask/hair matches! Â Â SUPER VIERNES January 25, 1985 Arena Mexico Mexico City, Mexico Match 1: Solar y Popitekus y Tony Salazar contra Los Missioneros de la Muerte (Negro Navarro y El Texano y El Signo) 1. Negro Navarro sub Solar (5:42) 2. Solar sub Negro Navarro (5:42) 3. El Texano pin Popitekus (4:06) El Signo pin Tony Salazar (4:06) Winner: rudos (1/3) Match Time: 15:30 Match 2: El Hijo del Santo y Hombre Bala y Alfonso Dantes contra Fuerza Guerrera y El Dandy y Tony Benetto 1. El Dandy pin El Hijo del Santo (4:57) 2. Alfonso Dantes pin Tony Benetto (6:00) Hombre Bala pin Fuerza Guerrera (6:05) 3, El Hijo del Santo pin El Dandy (7:30) El Hijo del Santo pin Fuerza Guerrera (7:40) Winner: tecnico (2/3) Match Time: 18:42 Match 3: Gran Cochisse y Atlantis y Tony Acre y Vulcano contra Los Guerreros del Universo (Negro Casas y Black Terry y Blue Panther y Babe Face) 1. Black Terry pin Tony Acre (3:02) Blue Panther sub Vulcano (3:05) 2. Gran Cochisse pin Negro Casas (4:50) 3. Blue Terry pin Gran Ochisse (5:06) Winner: rudos (1/3) Match Time: 13:01 Semi-Main Event: Mexican National Tag Team Titles Match: Ringo Mendoza y Cachorro Mendoza (Champions) contra Dynamic Duo (Gino Hernandez & Chris Adams) 1. Chris Adams pin Ringo Mendoza (4:00) Gino Hernandez pin Cachorro Mendoza (4:01) 2. Ringo Mendoza pin Chris Adams (2:32) Ringo Mendoza pin Gino Hernandez (2:41) 3. Gino Hernandez pin Cachorro Mendoza (6:26) Chris Adams pin Ringo Mendoza (8:39) Winner: rudos (1/3) Match Time: 15:21 Note: Dynamic Duo win the Mexican National Tag Team Titles Main Event: Sangre Chicano with Perro Aguayo contra Pirata Morgan with El Satanico 1. Pirata Morgan pin Sangre Chicana (6:02) 2. Sangre Chicana pin Pirata Moragan (3:53) 3. Sangre Chicana pin Pirata Morgan (14:56) Winner: tecnico (2/3) Match Time: 24:51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Dear Dave,  sorry no time for a full in depth report this week, life is hectic. I did catch the show though.  The biggest news is that the Dynamic Duo won the tag team titles. The moment they came out with Ameircan flags I thought the fans were going to kill them. The match was short but heated, especially the last two minutes. It was the third fall all evened up, when Gino pinned Cachorro with a inside cradle holding the tights. That left Ringo Mendoza all alone with both members of the Dynamic Duo. He fought valiantly and the crowd was going nuts, but a superkick out of nowhere gave them the Tag Team Titles.  The other match was Sangre Chicana and Pirata Morgan having a great brawl. They had Satanico and Perro Aguayo as their seconds and they brawled too. A real chaotic scene.  Sorry about the brief report!  Stan Grimmas  Dear Stan,  thanks again for the report and the tapes. Yeah the show was great and I suggest everybody check it out. More heat than you get almost anywhere else in the world.  The other great thing about this show was this ridiculous backstage vignette. You had the UWA team of Negro Casas, Blue Panther, Babe Face, & Black Terry all sitting around a roasted pig at a large dinning room table. They put a CMLL flag on top of it and carved it up, explaining how there plans are to take CMLL apart and how inferior it is to Universal Wrestling. They called themselves Los Guerreros del Universo (The Universal Warriors). Awesome and ridiculous stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirEdger Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 That semi-main event didn't disappoint at all. Gino & Adams as Mexican National Tag Team Champions is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinmcfl Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Â That semi-main event didn't disappoint at all. Gino & Adams as Mexican National Tag Team Champions is awesome. Â Â I agree. Adams and Hernandez are now hated in at least two countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Send them for a tour with New Japan later... they can be hated on two continents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowBlowPodcast Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Send them for a tour with New Japan later... they can be hated on two continents! Â Â This could be arranged... I hear they had to flee Mexico due to threats and may have brought the titles with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 CMLL is back in Arena Mexico on February 1st, 1985 with a loaded Friday night show. The evening will feature a ceremony to honour Ray Mendoza.   Homenaje a Ray Mendoza  Match 1: La Fiera y Valente Fernandez y Hombre Bala contra Jerry Estrada y Kato Kung Lee y Moguro  Match 2: El Solar y Super Astro y Ultraman contra Los Missioneros de La Muerte  Match 3: El Hijo del Santo y La Fiera y Mocha Cota contra Emilio Charles Jr. y Talisman y Espanto Jr.  Semi-Main Event: Los Brazos contra Los Villanos  Main Event: Mexican National Heavyweight Title Match: Champion Cien Caras with Perro Aguayo contra Challenger El Satanico with MS-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Dang... Maybe Stan's letter to Dave got lost in the mail or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Dang... Maybe Stan's letter to Dave got lost in the mail or something... Stan actually went on vacation and missed a few episodes. Â Updates will come after my hectic life gets a little break next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordi Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 CMLL Homenaje a Ray Mendoza February 1, 1985 1. La Fiera y Valente Fernandez y Hombre Bala def. Jerry Estrada y Kato Kung Lee y Moguro 2. Los Missioneros de La Muerte def. El Solar y Super Astro y Ultraman 3. El Hijo del Santo y Alofonso Dantes y Mocha Cota def. Emilio Charles Jr. y Talisman y Espanto Jr. 4. Los Villanos def. Los Brazos 5. Cien Caras w/ Perro Aguayo def. El Satanico w/ MS-1 to retain the Mexian National Heavyweight Title CMLL Super Viernes February 8, 1985 1. Atlantis y Ringo Mendoza y Cachorro Mendoza def. Tony Benetto y Hombre Bala y Alfonso Dantes 2. El Dandy y Fuerza Guerrera def. La Fiera y Mocha Cota 3. Blue Panther y Babe Face y Black Terry def. Tony Acre y Vulcano y Popitekus 4. Mexican National Light Heavyweight Champion Negro Casas def. Gran Cochise 5. El Canek y Sangre Chicano y Perro Aguayo def. Los Infernales CMLL Super Viernes February 15, 1985 1. Super Astro y El Solar y Ultraman def. Talisman y Moguro y Kato Kung Lee 2. Los Villanos def. Hombre Bala y Tony Salazar y Ringo Mendoza 3. Negro Casas y Black Terry y Blue Panther def. Gran Cochise y Tony Acre y Vulcano 4. El Hijo del Santo y El Canek def. Espanto Jr. y Emilio Charles Jr. 5. Mexican National Middleweight Champion Atlantis def. El Dandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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