my personal wrestling HOF

[SPS]

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

Tiger Jeet Singh can be described in a lot of ways but technique and execution among realism isn't some of the ones I've ever heard.

[shodate]

 

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

Tiger Jeet Singh can be described in a lot of ways but technique and execution among realism isn't some of the ones I've ever heard.

 

histocal imptace also is taken ot account

[Grimmas]

 

 

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

Tiger Jeet Singh can be described in a lot of ways but technique and execution among realism isn't some of the ones I've ever heard.

 

histocal imptace also is taken ot account

 

Bullshit. No Flair. No McMahon.

[shodate]

 

 

 

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

Tiger Jeet Singh can be described in a lot of ways but technique and execution among realism isn't some of the ones I've ever heard.

 

histocal imptace also is taken ot account

 

Bullshit. No Flair. No McMahon.

 

this was based on people who think should be HOFs who are not at this time

[Eduardo]

Fascinating thread.

 

shodate, curious to hear your thoughts on Black Terry?

[shodate]

Fascinating thread.

 

shodate, curious to hear your thoughts on Black Terry?

i rate him very highly

[GSR]

 

 

 

 

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

Tiger Jeet Singh can be described in a lot of ways but technique and execution among realism isn't some of the ones I've ever heard.

 

histocal imptace also is taken ot account

 

Bullshit. No Flair. No McMahon.

 

this was based on people who think should be HOFs who are not at this time

 

 

Then why did you include Muchnick, Onita, Shire, Sayama, Baba, Rikidozan, Santo, McManus, Thesz and countless others who are already in the WON Hall of Fame?

[shodate]

 

 

 

 

 

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

Tiger Jeet Singh can be described in a lot of ways but technique and execution among realism isn't some of the ones I've ever heard.

 

histocal imptace also is taken ot account

 

Bullshit. No Flair. No McMahon.

 

this was based on people who think should be HOFs who are not at this time

 

 

Then why did you include Muchnick, Onita, Shire, Sayama, Baba, Rikidozan, Santo, McManus, Thesz and countless others who are already in the WON Hall of Fame?

 

that was over site just like kudo bewing left out was sayama was never in won hof as promotor was he also alot of people say the won hof is not a real hof so yes tha is not my view but im saying its based on general fans views of who is is [and i do not countenance say the legacy wing of WWE since

 

every time i bring up in other places that this or that non worker is in the WWE HOF people say oh that is ply the celebrity wing foe wwes hof case i taking in ot only the main wing when making this list

 

i also have my own many issues with the WON HOF voting rules i think my Hypothecal voting rules are better

 

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you have have debuted atlest 25 years ago not the 10 year rule that won has i have huge issues with that and the fact that the lucha section of won hof is oddly bare

 

i though more og=f the moden era ads yes im using won idea there modern being 1980 plus i will every jan 4th the next lot will be those who debuted in 1994

 

 

and so on

 

i have made a few over sites i admit but minus that any other issues

 

 

my main five main criteria

1 skill realism technique

2 debut over 25 years ago

3 innovation [ ie how many moves they innovated and how they pushed wrestling foward]

4 Historical impact

5 not in the main wing of any mainstream wresting hof

 

 

fur pre 1980 works 1 and 4 and four are weighted

for post-1985 workers one and three are weighted

five is is the reason fior the list

[Jetlag]

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

 

You should go check out his series with Inoki. Once upon a time Tiger Jeet Singh was quite capable in his role.

 

(Hm. That almost feels like a thinly veiled curse. "Go watch a Tiger Jeet Singh match.")

[G. Badger]

 

 

"Tiger Jeet Singh"

 

"i Judge based on realism technique execution and work rate above all"

 

hmmm

 

Tiger Jeet Singh can be described in a lot of ways but technique and execution among realism isn't some of the ones I've ever heard.

histocal imptace also is taken ot account

I read it as "historical impotence"

[Britwresdvds]

 

 

No Vince McMahon?

i rate promotors who bulit from Nothing more like all the ones i listed did

 

 

any comments on the wreslters section also take in to account i made my HOF out of people who are Most HOFs in the world

 

 

Andre Baker FFS! Yeah, cause Hammerlock left such an indelible mark on the world of professional wrestling!

 

I might be biased here (having trained with and wrestled for Hammerlock in the mid 90s), but it has to be said that Hammerlock, and Andre Baker, pioneered the opening up of wrestling in the UK. Whether that's been a good or bad thing is debatable, but at the very least they provided opportunities for many people that were simply not there before Hammerlock came about. As someone who was looking to get into wrestling in the early 90s, I know firsthand how limited the opportunities for people not already connected to the business in some way to get in were. Hammerlock changed that and eventually spawned countless others.

 

The amount of people who have come onto, and made an impact on, the UK wrestling scene over the past 25 years because of Hammerlock cannot be overlooked. Doug Williams. Johnny Moss. Justin Richards. Alex Shane. Jody Fleisch. Gary Steele. There are countless others who passed through the doors at different times - far too many to mention.

 

I'm not saying Hammerlock was perfect, or even that Andre was solely responsible for its success, but when you look historically at its impact, you can't deny that it paved the way for the evolution of the wrestling scene in the UK.

[GSR]

I might be biased here (having trained with and wrestled for Hammerlock in the mid 90s), but it has to be said that Hammerlock, and Andre Baker, pioneered the opening up of wrestling in the UK. Whether that's been a good or bad thing is debatable, but at the very least they provided opportunities for many people that were simply not there before Hammerlock came about. As someone who was looking to get into wrestling in the early 90s, I know firsthand how limited the opportunities for people not already connected to the business in some way to get in were. Hammerlock changed that and eventually spawned countless others.

 

The amount of people who have come onto, and made an impact on, the UK wrestling scene over the past 25 years because of Hammerlock cannot be overlooked. Doug Williams. Johnny Moss. Justin Richards. Alex Shane. Jody Fleisch. Gary Steele. There are countless others who passed through the doors at different times - far too many to mention.

 

I'm not saying Hammerlock was perfect, or even that Andre was solely responsible for its success, but when you look historically at its impact, you can't deny that it paved the way for the evolution of the wrestling scene in the UK.

 

 

Shodate has thankfully been canned, but Baker for a Hall of Fame? And Shodate's entire basis was that he trained all these guys who are seen as top talents. I'll give him Doug Williams and potentially Jodie Fleisch, but I'd be interested to here how much of a hand Baker had in actually training someone like Fleisch (I can't imagine Andre was teaching him springboard shooting stars and running up walls). Even the likes of Devitt and later Sabre Jr. who reportedly trained at Hammerlock, how much involvement did Andre have in training them?

 

Fair point about Hammerlock's role in the evolution of British wrestling in the mid 90s, especially as it was probably the precursor for the FWA and the boom period that followed in the early to mid 2000s.

 

[Cap]

I haven't been able to spare much time for wrestling recently and have been completely out of the loop on forums for a bit, but I am really happy I checked in real quick this morning and this thread caught my eye. You have created a bizzaro world where deep analysis and wacky takes coexist so effortlessly. fascinating.

[Britwresdvds]

 

I might be biased here (having trained with and wrestled for Hammerlock in the mid 90s), but it has to be said that Hammerlock, and Andre Baker, pioneered the opening up of wrestling in the UK. Whether that's been a good or bad thing is debatable, but at the very least they provided opportunities for many people that were simply not there before Hammerlock came about. As someone who was looking to get into wrestling in the early 90s, I know firsthand how limited the opportunities for people not already connected to the business in some way to get in were. Hammerlock changed that and eventually spawned countless others.

 

The amount of people who have come onto, and made an impact on, the UK wrestling scene over the past 25 years because of Hammerlock cannot be overlooked. Doug Williams. Johnny Moss. Justin Richards. Alex Shane. Jody Fleisch. Gary Steele. There are countless others who passed through the doors at different times - far too many to mention.

 

I'm not saying Hammerlock was perfect, or even that Andre was solely responsible for its success, but when you look historically at its impact, you can't deny that it paved the way for the evolution of the wrestling scene in the UK.

 

 

Shodate has thankfully been canned, but Baker for a Hall of Fame? And Shodate's entire basis was that he trained all these guys who are seen as top talents. I'll give him Doug Williams and potentially Jodie Fleisch, but I'd be interested to here how much of a hand Baker had in actually training someone like Fleisch (I can't imagine Andre was teaching him springboard shooting stars and running up walls). Even the likes of Devitt and later Sabre Jr. who reportedly trained at Hammerlock, how much involvement did Andre have in training them?

 

Fair point about Hammerlock's role in the evolution of British wrestling in the mid 90s, especially as it was probably the precursor for the FWA and the boom period that followed in the early to mid 2000s.

 

 

 

Don't get me wrong, I should have made it a bit clearer that I wouldn't agree with Andre for a hall of fame spot either. I just thought he and Hammerlock deserved a little more credit in the grand scheme of things.

 

I wasn't there from the very start in 1993, so can't comment on the very early training and how involved Andre was. I joined in early 1996 and, certainly by that time, the bulk of the actual physical training was being done by Justin and Doug, with Andre more in an overseeing capacity.

[shodate]

some are in as trainers alone like Baker, Valasco and so on i put them in the worker part of the list cause I know for the most part they were not also promotors