C.S. Posted March 13, 2021 Report Share Posted March 13, 2021 8 minutes ago, WingedEagle said: If you take a paycheck from Fox to produce, deliver or facilitate the content they put out it should disqualify you from complaining about a damn thing that happens to you there. But this is PWO so we'll leave it there. I'm not a fan of Fox News at all, but not everyone there is terrible. Most of the night hosts are completely awful (Tucker Carlson, etc.), but Chris Wallace during the day is okay. Irritates the shit out of me with his smug little look, but he's a far cry from the Carlsons of the world. Either way, this is a very bad take. No one deserves to be sexually harassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laz Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 12:28 PM, WingedEagle said: If you take a paycheck from Fox to produce, deliver or facilitate the content they put out it should disqualify you from complaining about a damn thing that happens to you there. But this is PWO so we'll leave it there. This has nothing to do with PWO. This is just a really, really awful take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Patrick Clark (Velveteen Dream) on Instagram after his WWE release: Quote The allegations from April 20, 2020, have effectively derailed any upward momentum I had professionally. And has ultimately resulted in my termination with WWE. My name is Patrick Clark, not the Velveteen Dream. Velveteen Dream is a character that I have spent years developing and trying to bring to life. The success of the Dream character relied heavily on kayfabe, my ability to blur Patrick Clark from Tough Enough with this over-the-top personality. The character was conceptualized the day Prince passed, April 21, 2016. I knew nothing about him at that time, but my thinking was that I could use my interpretation of Prince to create an onscreen personality vastly different from who I am as a person. *Cue Velveteen Dream: A Sexually Ambiguous, Gender Fluid, Self Absorbed Divo. And as I learned more about Prince I began to tame certain aspects of the character. Aspects that I deemed way too over the top and inconsistent with who Prince was as a performer. Now before I unpack, I will say, I’ve enjoyed the many stories I’ve been able to share on camera and I’m grateful to the many people who trusted me with their safety and wellness. Thank you to any and everybody who enjoyed and allowed me to be my character, whether you paid a ticket or walked up on me in Walmart. My goal was to provide you with the same escape that I was offered when I first started watching. My job was to play a character and to help advance storylines and drama for the fans who cared to tune in. I take any job that I have seriously, which is why I’ve remained silent about these allegations. To me addressing rumors would be working against an already compromised ability to sell a character I’ve invested in so heavily. After I had been accused, I was given the opportunity to be in a storyline that lasted a few months and I worked in a few segments unrelated to the story arch, but now I feel comfortable in this position to share with you the details of my accusations. The night of April 20th, from my verified Instagram account I posted a story to my followers letting them know that my DMs had been open. I received a few different messages ranging from support, to heckling, and some inquiring about how to get started in pro wrestling. I responded to a few, but not all, and of the few I responded to one account accused me of solicitation. The account belonged to a 17 year old aspiring wrestler named Jaccob, before he deleted it. In the conversation Jaccob shared his interest in working as a wrestler one day and asked what steps would be required. I messaged a short list of things he should consider if he was serious” Physique and Promo to start. Physique, because as an independent contractor no one is going to make you train and eat in a way that creates the aesthetic of a believable pro wrestler. And promo because our job is to sell drama, and you can’t rely on someone flipping channels to stop and watch a choreographed fight, you’re more likely to grab their attention looking into a camera with a strong and passioned 30 second monologue. I also inquired about which schools he was closest to in relation to wrestling training, his weight, and his height. Jaccob explained how anxious he felt messaging me and asked me to verify that it was really me. I did find it strange, because I have a blue check, but as a lifelong fan I remember meet and greets and the days I would message wrestlers hoping to be seen, so I chalked it up to innocence and sent a voice message in my Velveteen Dream voice, as to keep kayfabe. The full voice message has me asking Jaccob about his height, weight, where he trained, and what school he attended. Which Jaccob answered back with a voice message and I continued to answer his questions until I politely wrapped up the conversation. April 21st I woke up to notifications and tags of created screenshots and videos of a conversation that I didn’t have with Jaccob. I immediately contacted WWE’s talent relations and social media departments as to begin an investigation. Even after the investigation, WWE released a statement maintaining my innocence. The part that hurt for me was having a personal picture that I’ve used in my personal life, on apps, being used to label me as a predator. I am in no way of the word a predator. This is the first and only time I’ve been accused of any solicitation to anyone. 2/2 Until I was accused of grooming with Joshua Fuller, unlike Jaccob, I know Josh. I met Josh after my stint on Tough Enough (2015) at a meet and greet. And we developed a friendship through a mutual trainer at GXW. Josh shared to twitter screenshots of the first time we communicated through text(2016), an autographed picture from when we met, and an extremely contradictory story. Josh alleged that I made him feel uncomfortable but contradicts himself twice by saying I was never sexual towards him. For those willing to research Josh’s tweet accusing me; Josh’s messages are in blue and mine in grey. Josh claimed that he was a 16 year old high school graduate and that he takes “yearly trips” with his friend to Orlando, FL. I deleted what he told me, yet I kept my replies diplomatic and professional. The reality of the situation is that I was very helpful and respectful to Josh. Josh lives with his grandparents in rural southern Maryland. Josh got a concussion (2017) and against my advice, insisited on wrestling. My worry came from Josh severely injuring himself, specifically his brain. I suggested that he take time off from training to see a doctor. He declined because he believed he could work through the concussion, and I cut all communication with him in 2018 because I didn’t want to be partially responsible had he worsened his injury. So to have him accuse me of predatory behavior because I chose not to help was spiteful. Josh and Jaccob are 2 of MANY people that I’ve helped. Yet these are the only two who have found me to be malicious and predatory in how I go about helping others. What wasn’t shared at the time – Josh Fuller reached out to Jaccob over social media before Josh put out his own accusation. When this came out Josh Fuller temporarily deleted his twitteraccount @joshfullerpw – Which is important because in all the social media confusion, Josh Fuller is the only one who suggested that an investigation had not been done and that he had not been contacted. – Jaccob deleted his social media after he was outed for being a member of an anti-black group chat. – There is a public forum, wwe lpsg stars where people are buying selling and sharing explicit stories and videos of multiple wrestlers and no one has done anything to have this site taken down. All in all this experience defamed my character and ultimately accomplished what it sought out to do and that was to see me released. My hope is that over time people can put 2 and 2 together and realize that all the allegations surrounding me were baseless and untrue from the jump. I felt strongly about not needing to defend myself on social media for a while now, but I understand the audience I work for and those who know me deserve clarity. I’m thankful for the opportunities afforded to me and the memories I have as a receipt. GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD ME AND HE ALWAYS WILL. DREAM IS OFFICIALLY OVER BUT Patrick Clark LIVES TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY https://www.mandatory.com/wrestlezone/news/1236420-velveteen-dream-issues-statement-wwe-release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJRogers Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 3/13/2021 at 1:28 PM, WingedEagle said: If you take a paycheck from Fox to produce, deliver or facilitate the content they put out it should disqualify you from complaining about a damn thing that happens to you there. But this is PWO so we'll leave it there. So, because you don’t like a media outlet’s social/political/theological take, you pretty much play the victim blaming/shaming card. So...if I am not a fan of the output of the Weinstein Company/Mirimax, or on a micro level the works of a sleazy, scumbag harassing and manipulating, but lefty leaning director, it’s someone’s fault because they chose to get a paycheck from the studio, or work for said director? Political/social/theological beliefs do not equal toxic work environments! I mean John Layfield the toxic person is NOT as over the top JR Ewing neo-con as the JBL character is, and Tyrus has a libertarian frat boy act going on that network, probably to help balance the stuffy “elite prep” feel of the more conservative guy opinion talkers on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 5 hours ago, SteveJRogers said: Political/social/theological beliefs do not equal toxic work environments! Tell that to anyone who has to work with the NXT Q squad. I mean, I get what you're saying and you're right on a basic level, but people are so comfortable openly expressing hateful beliefs nowadays it's easy to turn any workplace toxic in a heartbeat. This isn't like "Fred believes trickle down economics actually work", more like "Fred doesn't believe I have value as a human being and I should have all my rights taken away". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 @C.S. So Patrick Clark addressed and denied the rumors surround he and grooming young boys. Ok, good for him to attempt to clear his name. Yet he didn't address the rumors of drug use or being an asshole to work with or sending dick pics to underage girls. He needs a much lengthier statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.S. Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 4 hours ago, joeg said: @C.S. So Patrick Clark addressed and denied the rumors surround he and grooming young boys. Ok, good for him to attempt to clear his name. Yet he didn't address the rumors of drug use or being an asshole to work with or sending dick pics to underage girls. He needs a much lengthier statement. Assholes rarely think they're assholes. That's why they're assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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