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  1. Awesome recap, TTK. Like everyone else, I've come away with a greater appreciation for Herd and the headaches he must have had.
  2. From what I remember, there was a Cornette mailbag episode forever ago and this was one of them. It's fair to say that if Flair did it, it probably came from Buddy Rogers, Ray Stevens, or Jackie Fargo. That's not even a knock. I
  3. From what I've also gathered, he is known as a guy with a lot of burnt bridges in his past. He's talented, sure, but he's not "let's ignore the ego" talented.
  4. FWIW, I moved just outside Nashville a couple months ago, and we're expecting some bad snowstorm tonight into tomorrow. Nothing that would close a school back home (Boston area), but the southern states have no real prep for winter storms and things go nutty real quick. That could be a factor.
  5. Only Shawn wasn't able to pull enough strings to get Bryan a full-time gig, and Bryan was cut from developmental in 2001. Even with HBK having Vince's ear on who to look at from the TWA? HBK wasn't the top promoter of a country like Stu was, and Vince didn't owe him any favors. Bryan didn't have the safety net that Bret did, which was the obvious point being made. The other party you're thinking of is Paul London. I'm not talking Trips wanting to hire indie guys left, right, and center. I'm talking Trips even having a huge indie scene to pick from. Bryan was so integral to that happening, to the shift from indies being nothing but "cheap outlaw mud shows" (TM Cornette) to the territories of the internet age. There were a metric shitton of other factors and talents, of course, but the big indies pre-ROH were either deathmatch focused (CZW, IWA-MS) or copies of what you'd see on Monday night (UPW), and I remember one of the major drawing points in early ROH was seeing Bryan/LowKi/Daniels, Bryan/LowKi (still a 5* classic), and the Bryan/Williams series. Bret (and Shawn) may have proven to Vince that guys didn't need to be roidy magoos or giants to headline his shows, but Bryan was the brightest star in a scene that was so integral to the survival and evolution of the entire business that Vince was forced to take notice.
  6. I won't comment on the rest of the discussion between MoS and yourself, but this is a vapid and shallow argument when weighing the strengths of a performer. It's a bad argument when discussing quality actors or musicians, so why is it acceptable when discussing pro wrestlers who, themselves, are performers? It's also highly ignorant of how much the pro wrestling landscape has changed in the last 20 years, and how much of a hand Bryan directly had in that. Indies weren't a thing outside of some washed up has-beens and never-weres during Bret's peak, nor was he ever in a position where he wasn't granted access to a larger audience. His father was the top promoter in Canada, one whose connections to Vince Sr. got his sons a look when Vince Jr. was making his national expansion and needed talent. I won't say Bret was handed anything, but he damn sure wasn't living out of his car and risking life and limb every weekend just to get gas money. Bryan's quality of work helped legitimize ROH and that, in turn, legitimized independent wrestling as a whole. From this scene we get a surplus of gaijin talent for Gedo to book in NJPW, and then we get AEW from that. Personal opinions on the product quality aside, the building blocks for AEW having an audience begins with the Elite having a huge presence in ROH, the company that Bryan put on the map. So, since we're not looking at purely the quality of work (where Bryan has shown more versatility with a wider variety of opponents of greater variation in size and style, mind you), this means we're taking the meta-narrative into account...and Bryan wins again for his direct influence on how the very business has been run for the past decade.
  7. Something that needs to be taken into account is that Bryan rose to prominence in an era where "have a great match" was an ethos held above others. Every era had talent who wanted to have the best match of the night, sure, but was there really a company whose selling point was the actual quality of the in-ring product before ROH, specifically the years that Bryan was active in it? Bret also didn't have access to the caliber of talent that Bryan did. Bret's peak years as a performer saw him have only a handful of people who could conceivably keep up with him, whereas Bryan was one of many individuals in a talent-heavy scene. This may actually be in Bryan's favor, now that I think about it, because there were so many other people who could have taken attention away from him and yet none ever really did. Damn. I came in here ready to defend Bret against my personal pick for generational GOAT and wound up making better arguments internally for Bryan being better anyway.
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    AEW Dynamite - October 28, 2020

    Holy shit, Leyla is signed to AEW now? Good on her. She impressed me a ton from her early days in CZW, and I admittedly haven't watched a whole lot of her work.
  9. Laz

    Dark Side of the Ring: Viceland docu-series

    Nick Gage going from shit deathmatch worker to convicted felon to great brawler/human being is as close to wholesome as pro wrestling gets.
  10. I agree that most talents won't do shit, but I also think the talents most affected would do fine if they told Vince to fuck off and specified that they would not be renewing their deals, specifying this overstep as why they would be seeking income elsewhere. Xavier Woods, for example, would do great anywhere else. He has a PhD in educational psychology, has a recurring seat at one of the more popular live events for each PAX convention, and his streaming show is the reason others have followed suit. If he, especially in today's climate after the Lio Rush and ACH accusations against the company, were to tell Vince to pound sand? There isn't much that could be done. Most of the talent, as in other fields, don't understand the level of power they truly yield.
  11. Couple of issues here. 1. WWE talent are not employees, but independent contractors. Their payment by the company is akin to an actor on a television show. If Bryan Cranston signed a deal with Disney to play a role? Disney has no say in what he does professionally when not working the agreed upon dates and has no right to money earned beyond their program. 2. WWE talent, as independent contractors, are not receiving healthcare benefits, nor pension plans, through WWE. 3. This mandate is another in a long line of attempts by Vince to restrict the income of contracted talents, which is why many of his top stars in the past have left before. Piper left because he wanted to work with John Carpenter, Rock left because he wasn't going to give Vince a cut of his Hollywood money, Jericho left because he felt Vince didn't have a say in what he did whenever he wasn't scheduled to appear, etc. This is a blatant overstep by Vince and WWE that, just like their attempts to prevent Rey Mysterio from leaving years back, will fold against a halfway decent court case.
  12. Laz

    Rusev says he's done with wrestling

    Which is one reason why Twitch is a joke, among others. "Play all the ultraviolent video games that you want, but don't you DARE show any female skin that isn't made of polygons!"
  13. "Hailing from Death Valley, the CORRRRPSE VALEEEEEET"
  14. It was called that on the indies, too.
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