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  1. IDK about recent years, but soon after Keith was always stating it as a fact that Owen was to be crowned IC Champ the night he died.
  2. SteveJRogers

    WWE TV 08/24 - 08/30 HUGE News!

    How often will “I’m afraid I’ve got some bad news” will be worked in? Especially during setup of the spot moments?
  3. Probably will be the same for players. IDK how much wrestlers saying that it’s a big deal is kayfabe lip service these days as with the exception of WM, and no matter the promotion they’re in the same arenas for house shows that PPVs and special events get held in. And I’ve seen other performance artists say they prefer smaller crowds to the bigger arenas/stages. But yeah, baseball is a non-scripted sport where the “playoff atmosphere,” and crowd affecting performances is very real. Probably the best example is the first ever postseason series where the home team won every game. It’s wasn’t just that the Twins performed better, or had better pitching those nights, but to this day the being in front of the Metrodome crowd is considered a huge factor in why the Twins won the 1987 World Series.
  4. SteveJRogers

    Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 4

    Could be worse, there is a line in The Godfather where Vito Corleone refers to Bonasera (who comes to him in the opening scene) as a “corpse valet” Which is another term for Undertaker.
  5. SteveJRogers

    WWE Network... It's Here

    The only counter point I can make is Rock’s pure heel act leading up to his match with Austin at 19. Like Taker-AJ, it was only fandom or media speculation that Austin was making his final competitive in ring appearance. In fact, I don’t think Austin, to this day formally said “yeah, my in-ring days are officially done!” But, there it was, Rock got the pin as Austin went out looking at the lights. But I’m sure if circumstances were different, and they had to do some sort of cinematic literal “Bar Room Brawl” match, Austin would have ended up having a beer bash toast on top of the bar.
  6. SteveJRogers

    WWE Network... It's Here

    My takeaway, which hasn’t been asked anywhere, or even when AJ did the wrap show, is if the match was done in the ring, would AJ have gone over? The big pre-“announced” ones like Flair, HBK and Foley, as well as the “after the fact ones” like Austin, Batista, and even the Reigns match all ended with the retiree looking at the lights. Now, once the venue and the complexion of the match changed, the finish, theatrics and the ride off makes sense for a “finality” for the in-ring career, but if it was a normal match? I mean it would make sense either way, but I wonder if the winner changed because of the changes.
  7. SteveJRogers

    WWE Network... It's Here

    Irish/Scottish https://www.familyeducation.com/baby-names/name-meaning/mccool You will see plenty of Irish establishments, mostly bars named either McCool’s or Finn McCool after the mythical warrior hunter.
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    I don’t think it’s wrestling bubble fans. NBA and NFL conspiracy theorists are pretty mainstream. MLB is close, but it’s mostly just “MLB and networks sweating out postseason series, hoping the small market teams/non-uber popular ones (ie Red Sox) do not advance” talk.
  9. SteveJRogers

    WWE Network... It's Here

    Even more crazier is that from what, 1995-2009, he was a fixture in the Main Event/Heavyweight titles scene. And his final match for any sort of title, period, was losing the Elimination Chamber Match for his World Title in 2010 to help set up Shawn Michaels’ retirement match.
  10. SteveJRogers

    WWE Network... It's Here

    Oddly enough I Mandela-ed a “Mean Mark” trading card based off of there being a set of WCW trading cards with cards of The Skyscrapers, and wondered if they’d be considered “Undertaker’s rookie cards”. But the sets (Impel WCW and Championship Marketing WCW) I thought I saw cards in came out in 1991, so not only was Mark long gone, so was the team itself by that point! I’d wager Mean Mark would show up in a trading card set featuring WCW photos now.
  11. SteveJRogers

    AEW Dynamite - June 17 2020

    Yes, but since “The view, nevah changes, baby. Its to join forces with a crew, and not to be the main guy as manager.
  12. SteveJRogers

    Backlash 2020 - The one with the GREATEST MATCH EVER

    LOL! Trying to compare it to being an unnamed extra in a segment, but yeah, acting like a goofball fan (as opposed to being one organically) is probably high up on the list of things you can mock on list of “before they were known” spots.
  13. Fair, but realizing the point of the stunt that killed Owen was meant to be comedic would suggest that Godfather was going over, with Owen returning to win the belt at Raw the next night or the next PPV. In other words, Blazer winning that night was probably just speculation and not concrete THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN fact.
  14. SteveJRogers

    Is Charlotte Flair the most overpushed WWE wrestler of the century?

    BTW, re-reading my post made me wonder how the opposite would go well as a storyline for a wrestler. Where in a lead up to a match his/her failures at a PPV are spotlighted. Yeah that was the point of Big Show vs Cody at WrestleMania, and often it’s just a past singular, or series of matches against a specific opponent get brought up in match hype. Not to mention putting someone over is generally considered a good thing from a non-kayfabe standpoint. But usually win-loss records are only stated as “fascinating facts” in non-storyline or hype package situations. And generally sub .500 records are used to gently mock, such as Triple H at WrestleMania. IDK, I’m probably overthinking with the endless amount of “do rings matter towards an athlete’s greatness” debates in team sports and trying too hard to apply it to a storyline driven, pre-determined combat sport. *rolls eyes*
  15. SteveJRogers

    Is Charlotte Flair the most overpushed WWE wrestler of the century?

    FWIW in “on the level” sports that’s akin to overhyping a player‘a ranking in all-time great discussions based on his/her performance in the postseason and “big games.” Yeah I know you can’t bring the same logic into pro-wrestling storytelling, but I’m sure that was their “logic” in making that a thing. And also, FWIW, are you suggesting that Undertaker’s Wrestlemania “undefeated streak” was one of the most silliest and most overrated things in wrestling history? Never mind the dreck Taker had to deal with before it became “special” and starting with the HBK matches it was one of a handful of matches he’d work in the calendar year. But it ended up being a central part of his gimmick for over a decade.