Dylan Waco Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I'm about a hundred pages in and so far what really stands out is how unique Jericho was as a guy trying to work a fresh style, in an enviornment that wwas extremely backwoods (Western Canada), in an industry that was in the middle of totally restruturing itself as a business run by monolothic entities, instead of local bosses. So far it reads very similar to a Foley book, though I haven't even gotten to the first Japan tour yet. Worth noting that Benoit is the first wrestler thanked in the book, and it is dedicated to Eddy Guerrero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I want to read this, although it's kind of lame that it ends with him coming to WWE. I'm sure the stories of the WWE backstage environment would be fun to read, especially his encounters with HHH. Too bad that with him probably coming back to WWE, that story won't be heard for a while, or if his next book is written while he is under contract with WWE, he's more likely to hold back with the interesting stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest STAN Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Maybe Jericho isn't a woman and doesn't gossip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 You are right that Jericho is not a woman, but he's perfectly happy to gossip to Dave Meltzer under the protection of anonymity. Where else did the Triple H is sabotaging Jericho's career stories come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 Meltzer has said those stories came from HHH's friends, actually. He confided in those close to him supposedly that he was going to make sure Jericho didn't get over coming in, presumably because he didn't see a place for two heels with long blonde hair at the top of the card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 I want to read this, although it's kind of lame that it ends with him coming to WWE. I'm sure the stories of the WWE backstage environment would be fun to read, especially his encounters with HHH. Too bad that with him probably coming back to WWE, that story won't be heard for a while, or if his next book is written while he is under contract with WWE, he's more likely to hold back with the interesting stuff. He did do that interview with Powerslam Magazine a year or so ago, when he was well into his current hiatus, and did mention that the original plan heading into WrestleMania X8 was for Stephanie to run around on HHH and hook up with Jericho (rather than the lame story they wound up with). Jericho outright said that HHH vetoed it. Other than that, I can't think of any case where he's publically spoke of his encounters with HHH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *FH* Posted August 17, 2007 Report Share Posted August 17, 2007 the original plan heading into WrestleMania X8 was for Stephanie to run around on HHH and hook up with Jericho (rather than the lame story they wound up with). Jericho outright said that HHH vetoed it. Can't say I blame him, seeing how these things usually work out in wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 All of these people complain of being held down and do nothing about it. Jericho would have been welcomed with open arms in TNA (for a much larger and better contract) - NJPW would also enjoy having Jericho back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I can't really blame stars like Jericho for not seriously considering the TNA option when their booking is so counterproductive, incompetent and indulgent. Being held down by Triple H in a hugely successful company is better than being dragged down by Jeff Jarrett in a hugely unsuccessful company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 All of these people complain of being held down and do nothing about it. Jericho would have been welcomed with open arms in TNA (for a much larger and better contract) Wait what? Since when do people get paid better in TNA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 I vaguely recall hearing that Angle's current contract was bigger than his old WWE one. But even if that's true, he's the only one, TNA's main draw to stars is its ridiculously light schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cox Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 Angle was making seven figures in WWE, there's no way TNA can afford to pay Kurt Angle seven figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted August 18, 2007 Report Share Posted August 18, 2007 TNA can afford anything it wants, as long as Panda signs off on it. It's whatever Dixie can convince her daddy to spend. (That's an oversimplification, but it's basically what it boils down to.) Which makes their claims of not being able to afford stuff absolutely laughable. They just haven't begged hard enough to get a bigger allowance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Isn't Spike TV helping TNA pay the big names like Sting, Christian, and Angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted August 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Lots and lots of shit talking about Vampiro, some really good stories about Japan, espcially working with Tenryu and an incredibly disturbing Benoit story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted October 14, 2007 Report Share Posted October 14, 2007 Lots and lots of shit talking about Vampiro, some really good stories about Japan, espcially working with Tenryu and an incredibly disturbing Benoit story.Was this the "HAHAHA WHAT A GAY BITCH!" story I heard about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 What was the story? Dylan... John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 According to someone who saw the galleys pre-Benoit murders, there were a bunch of stories about Benoit that were terribly creepy in hindsight. One of them was Benoit seeing a Japanese referee crying for some reason on a bench in the locker room, cackling, and remarking "What a gay bitch!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Unholy Dragon Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 I vaguely recall hearing that Angle's current contract was bigger than his old WWE one. But even if that's true, he's the only one, TNA's main draw to stars is its ridiculously light schedule. I remember hearing that Angle was blatantly lying about that, and in all actuality, got paid the same as anyone else in the company for year 1. I think this is more along the lines of "Kurt Angle is crazy and likes to say things to put himself and whatever company he's with at the time over." I still love how he commented that he saw Trish Stratus naked, but "couldn't go into the details." I mean, whether or not he did, that's obviously a sad attempt to grab attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted October 17, 2007 Report Share Posted October 17, 2007 Kurt might be the only person who can give Heyman, Russo and Vince a run in the "Biggest Liar In Wrestling" race. Even Hogan's lies are nothing compared to how constantly and consistently Kurt is full of shit. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Kurt was on local radio here last week spewing all kinds of bullshit about how he left WWE and how every wrestler in TNA loves being in the company. My favorite was him saying that Spike dumped WWE so they could pick up TNA because they saw that WWE was going down and TNA skyrocketing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted October 18, 2007 Report Share Posted October 18, 2007 Kurt needs to be broken off into his own thread for all the lies he tells. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted October 21, 2007 Report Share Posted October 21, 2007 This book is incredible. I have decided I do think this is better than the Foley or Dynamite books. I don't know where the idea came from that this story is overly flowery or somehow holds back and doesn't dish dirt, considering how honest he is about his own drug use, his groupies, the drug use of those around him, and his honest feelings on EVERYONE. I don't think there's anyone in the book that he ONLY says good things about, including Flair, Hogan, Hall, Nash, Bischoff, Vampiro, Konnan, Benoit, Guerrero, etc. His stories of being offered a joint in front of Rey Misterio Jr. the first time he met him, and being all indignant because he thought they were doing drugs in front of some kid, getting a fan video from some girl in SMW with everyone in her family repeating "Chris Jericho is my favorite wrestler" over and over while doing the Electric Slide and farting, going to the Hart House for the first time and standing at the door ringing the doorbell forever while Stu and Helen sat and stared at him from the foyer, doing GHB for the first time at the Super J Cup in '95, getting yelled at by Jim Cornette for not sleeping with all the girls in the territory, everyone getting loaded before their matches at the Worldwide tapings in WCW pretty regularly, and a bunch of other stuff I'm sure I'm forgetting. It doesn't really come across as a book where Jericho has axes to grind at all, but he's definitely very honest about his true thoughts on everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KCook Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I leafed through this at the library the other day and while I was honestly too embarrassed to check a wrestling book out it did seem pretty terrific. I especially liked the pages he spent praising Negro Casas as the king, which read like message board postings by people trying to explain the man's greatness to people who don't watch lucha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Loss, have you read Bret Hart's book? Did Jericho praise himself a lot, just like in every other wrestling book written by a pro wrestler? That's always been a turn off. That's the main criticism I have against professional wrestlers and their books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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