Thoughts on the DVDVR Mid South matches

[Tim Evans]

Wow I can tell my list is going to be different than most. For example, Floyd has the II/TA vs Midnight's match at 9 and I have it at 140.

[Kronos]

Is there still a way to get this? I've had this recommended to me by a ton of people. I tried signing up at DVDVR but I've been waiting for over two weeks for an administrator to approve my account so I can post and such.

i had to come over here, too, for the same reason. pm goodhelmet.

 

Not trying to hijack the thread, but I couldn't get the DVDVR guys to approve me, either. Their email is non-responding, and I can't PM them. Oh, well. . .

[floyd]

Wow I can tell my list is going to be different than most. For example, Floyd has the II/TA vs Midnight's match at 9 and I have it at 140.

Heh, just goes to show how different everyone's ballots will be! The results should be interesting.

 

To be fair that's not my final Top 20. Since I have a week to spare, I'm planning on watching the Top 30 or so matches on my list and see how they stack up side by side before mailing it off. It took me like 3-4 months to watch all this stuff so it's hard to compare Disk 1 to Disk 10 in my fragged-up memory stick I call a brain.

 

As for the Midnight Vs. Mr. II/Magnum, I remember really digging it! The Midnights were their usual awesome self and The good guys were excellent playing off that to make an entertaining match. Plus I remember the crowd being super molton hot, which is probably why that particular match stood out for me.

 

Hey for those who have watched some of the Mid-South countdown, any matches not on my Top 20 you think should be/ let me know and I'll give them a rewatch too.

 

 

This was the most fun I can remember having with US wrestling probably since I was in high school and the Monday Night Wars made actual regular conversation among normal people. Definitely some of the best shorter matches I can remember seeing, personally. And yeah Dick Murdoch is so awesome.

I agree with all of this as well, 100%! The most fun I've had in years. ALL these matches were new to me. I always wanted too see more of Murdoch and I got my wish big time on this set. Such an awesome and unique seller. And I expected more of a brawler but the guy can wrestle and go the distance too. my eyes were opened to the Guerreros as well. Plus Gordy got knocked up a notch.

[Tim Evans]

Hey for those who have watched some of the Mid-South countdown, any matches not on my Top 20 you think should be/ let me know and I'll give them a rewatch too.

Windham/Murdoch from 7/11/87. That match at least IMO is better than any of the Flair/Taylor matches. I also liked Adams/Taylor from 5/3/87 and Jake/Slater from 1/24/86.

[Johnny P]

Not much for my first post here, but I caught this today from the Meltzer update:

 

"-The Watts family is releasing a DVD called Giants, Midgets, Heros and villains II featuring old Mid South Wrestling matches like Ric Flair vs. Ted DiBiase, DiBiase & King Kong Bundy vs. Steve Williams & Magnum T.A., Midnight Express vs. Jim Duggan & Junkyard Dog, Williams vs. Duggan, One Man Gang vs Duggan, Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich, JYD vs. Bundy, One Man Gang & The Assassin vs. Ernie Ladd & Mike Sharpe, Butch Reed vs Jim Neidhart, Andre the Giant & JYD & Mil Mascaras vs. Killer Khan & Gino Hernandez & Tully Blanchard, JYD vs. Missing Link, Buzz Sawyer & Dick Slater vs. The Fantastics and a lot more."

 

Not great, but I guessw interesting. I'm about ten matches away from having the set done. Having gotten to see most of this for the first time I am confused by Watts' ex-wife not selling the collection to the McMahons. These DVDs they put out look average at best, and sure they have one or two matches you want in great quality, but after seeing what value you can get in a set like we just watched, I don't think most hardcore fans would be running to buy.

 

Who knows, maybe I'm wrong. Selfishly I'd like to watch the TV in chron. order in perfect quality with new JR wrap arounds, so I'd like to see them sell it. I'd also love, maybe for perverse reasons, to see the WWE and people like Ross and Hayes fight over the voice of a Rise and Fall of Mid South DVD. I can't imagine they (Former Mrs. Watts) are making more money overall from distributing these single DVD sets, even when added up.

[Bix]

Andre the Giant & JYD & Mil Mascaras vs. Killer Khan & Gino Hernandez & Tully Blanchard isn't complete, is it?

[tomk]

When putting the set together we had an inccomplete version of this.

 

I'm assumig we had it from Houston tape and not one we got from Mrs. Watts.

[Johnny P]

Alright,my top 20 and bottom ten are below for this set. A great experience that really was even better than I imagined. Helped me get my butt in gear with a blog to keep track of the matches, so that was cool. I got to read alot of thoughts from other people also watching. Gained alot of wrestling knowledge from the period. Could this be any better?! Bring on ano ther set! oh, and pretty much anything in my top 60-80 I'd re-watch at the drop of a hat. I tried to focus on the top 20 like Goodhelmet had wisely mentioned elsewhere and truthfully, these are all seperated by sheets of paper they are so close.

 

1. Ted DiBiase vs. Hacksaw Duggan (No DQ, Loser Leaves Town, Coal Miner's Glove on a Poll, Tuxedo, Cage match ) (3/22/85) [bR-14]

2. Butch Reed vs. Dick Murdoch (9/22/85) [bW-1]

3. Terry Taylor vs. Ric Flair (6/1/85) [RNRIK-7]

4. Mr. Wrestling II & Magnum T.A. vs. Midnight Express (2/10/84) [PTB-16]

5. Kerry Von Erich vs. Ric Flair (5/4/85) [RNRIK-4]

6. Magnum T.A. vs. Ted DiBiase (No DQ) (Tulsa 5/27/84) [sDM-2]

7. Hacksaw Duggan, Terry Taylor & Bill Watts vs. The Fabulous Freebirds (8/17/86) [bSUSA-8]

8. Mr. Olympia vs. Chavo Guerrero (6/24/83) [PTB-13]

9. Dick Slater vs. Jake Roberts (No DQ, Dark Journey In A Cage) (2/28/86) [TB-9]

10. Butch Reed vs. Ric Flair (10/11/85) [bW-4]

11. Dirty White Boys vs. Terry Daniels & Bill Dundee (5/11/85) [RNRIK-6]

12. Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor (5/3/85) [RNRIK-3]

13. Butch Reed vs. Dick Murdoch (10/14/85) [bW-6]

14. Magnum T.A. vs. Ted DiBiase (7/6/84) [sDM-5]

15. Terry Gordy vs. Dr. Death (9/15/86) [bSUSA-11]

16. Midnight Express vs. Rock N Roll Express (No DQ: Tag Titles vs. $50,000) (5/23/84) [PTB-20]

17. Dick Murdoch vs. The Nightmare (7/14/85) [TSGDIA-5]

18. Buzz Sawyer vs. Dr. Death (1/28/86) [JGP-17]

19. The Fantastics vs. Chavo & Hector Guerrero (10/12/84) [sDM-13]

20. Ted DiBiase vs. Ric Flair (11/6/85) [bW-8]

 

Bottom 10:

 

140. Eddie Gilbert & Dick Murdoch vs. Lightning Express (7/21/87) [bITUSA-14]

141. Dick Murdoch vs. Dr. Death (9/20/85) [TSGDIA-12]

142. The Fantastics vs. Dutch Mantell & Bill Dundee (10/4/85) [bW-2]

143. Chavo Guerrero vs. Steve Keirn (no DQ loser is painted yellow match) (1/31/86) [TB-2]

144. Dusty Rhodes & Jim Duggan vs. Butch Reed & Hercules Hernandez (8/19/84) [sDM-8]

145. Butch Reed vs. Skip Young (9/23/84) [sDM-10]

146. Bob Roop vs. Mike George (12/16/81) [PTB-1]

147. Jim Duggan, Dick Murdoch & Bill Watts vs. Kamala, Kareem Muhammad & Skandor Akbar (7/28/85)[TSGDIA-9]

148. Dick Slater vs. Butch Reed (No DQ) (12/13/85) [JGP-2]

149. One Man Gang vs. Buck Robley (Lumberjack Match) (9/15/82) [PTB-7]

150. Rock N Roll Express vs. Midnight Express (Scaffold Match) (12/2/84) [bR-3]

[delacroix]

here's a question; are you allowed to participate in this, meaning turn in a ballot, if you aren't a member of the dvdvr forum? i've had the set finished for more than a month now, but i haven't even bothered ranking anything because, since i couldn't get approved to post there, i assumed i couldn't turn in a ballot. i just saw that the deadline was extended again, so i figured i'd ask.

[Phil Schneider]

We have had some problems with our mod forum lately, which may be why you weren't approved, but go ahead and send a ballot to

 

[email protected]

[Wade Garrett]

Was the angle circa 1980 from the KTBS studio with Hayes, Kahn, and Dibiase included as an extra on this set?

 

Just checked it out on youtube and it's fabulous. It's under Best of Mid-South/UWF angles. It runs about 1-1/2 hrs. Has a lot of fantastic stuff.

 

Kahn is presented like a killer and Michael Hayes is FABULOUS. (Pun intended)

[JKWebb]

I just finished this set, and I thought it would be fun to rank all 150 matches to see how my rankings would compare to the DVDR Best of the 1980's Mid South Results. First of all, I have to say this is probably my favorite collection of matches I've ever watched. I would have, at least, my top 49 at **** or greater. I absolutely loved watching all 150! I can't say that there was a single match that I didn't at least like. Here's my top 150 with the DVDR Ranking listed with it.

 

1. Ted DiBiase vs. Hacksaw Duggan (No DQ, LLT, CMG on a Pole, Tuxedo, Cage Match) - 3/22/85 (DVDR Ranked #1)

2. Hacksaw Duggan vs. Buzz Sawyer - 11/11/85 (DVDR Ranked #4)

3. Ted DiBiase vs. Ric Flair - 11/6/85 (DVDR Ranked #3)

4. Magnum T.A. vs. Ted DiBiase - (No DQ, OKC) - 5/27/84 (DVDR Ranked #23)

5. Magnum T.A. vs. Ted DiBiase - (No DQ, Tulsa) - 5/27/84 (DVDR Ranked #8)

6. Dick Murdoch vs. Butch Reed - 9/22/85 (DVDR Ranked #6)

7. Dick Murdoch vs. Butch Reed - 10/14/85 (DVDR Ranked #11)

8. Ted DiBiase vs. Jim Duggan - No DQ - 3/8/85 (DVDR Ranked #7)

9. Midnight Express vs. Bill Watts & Stagger Lee - 4/22/84 (DVDR Ranked #41)

10.Barry Windham vs. Dick Murdoch - 7/11/87(DVDR Ranked #2)

11.Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor - 5/3/85 - DVDR #27

12.Mr. Olympia vs. Chavo Guerrero - 6/24/83 - DVDR #5

13.Butch Reed vs. Buzz Sawyer - 12/31/85 - Dog Collar Match - DVDR #36

14.Ric Flair vs. Jake Roberts - 11/24/85 - DVDR #14

15.Dick Murdoch vs. Ted DiBiase - 12/31/85 - DVDR #15

16.Ric Flair vs. Wahoo McDaniel - 7/12/85 - DVDR #20

17.Ted DiBiase vs. Hacksaw Duggan - Street Fight - 7/29/83 - DVDR #22

18.Rock N Roll Express & Hacksaw Duggan vs. Midnight Express & Ernie Ladd - 6/28/84 - DVDR #13

19.Terry Taylor vs. Ric Flair - 6/1/85 - DVDR #16

20.Terry Gordy vs. Dr. Death - 6/22/86 - DVDR #17

21.The Fabulous Ones vs. Chavo & Hector Guerrero (Mexican Death Match) - 1/24/86 - DVDR #26

22.Ric Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich - 4/28/85 - DVDR #48

23.Hacksaw Duggan vs. Buzz Sawyer - 12/27/85 - Dog Collar - DVDR #30

24.Magnum T.A. vs. Ted DiBiase - 7/6/84 - DVDR #18

25.Rock N Roll Express vs. Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death - 5/3/85 - DVDR #96

26.JYD & Mr. Olympia vs. Ted DiBiase & Matt Borne (LLT) - 10/27/82 - DVDR #10

27.Mr. Wrestling II & Magnum T.A. vs. Midnight Express - 2/10/84 - DVDR #32

28.Mr. Wrestling II & Magnum T.A. vs. Butch Reed & Jim Neidhart (Cage) - 12/25/83 - DVDR #9

29.Buddy Landel, Chavo & Hector Guerrero vs. Brickhouse Brown, Bill Dundee & Jose Lothario (Elimination Match) - 11/16/84 - DVDR #84

30.Ted DiBiase & Terry Taylor vs. Michael Hayes & Buddy Roberts - 10/12/86 - Country Whipping Match - DVDR #33

31.Dick Slater vs. Jake Roberts - No DQ - 2/14/86 - DVDR #40

32.Rock N Roll Express vs. Midnight Express - 6/30/85 - DVDR #52

33.Ric Flair vs. Kerry Von Erich - 5/4/85 - DVDR #44

34.The Fantastics vs. Chavo & Hector Guerrero - 10/12/84 - DVDR #29

35.Fabulous Ones vs. Guerreros - 12/27/85 - DVDR #68

36.Dick Slater vs. Jake Roberts - No DQ w/ Dark Journey in a Cage - 2/28/86 - DVDR #28

37.Terry Gordy vs. Hacksaw Duggan - 8/3/86 - DVDR #37

38.One Man Gang vs. Big Bubba Rogers - 4/19/87 - DVDR #38

39.Chris Adams vs. Terry Taylor - 5/3/87 - DVDR #12

40.Dick Murdoch vs. Ted DiBiase 12/27/85 (JIP) - DVDR #19

41.The Fantastics vs. Midnight Express - 8/9/84 - DVDR #45

42.Midnight Express vs. Rock N Roll Express - No DQ: Tag Titles vs. $50,000 - 5/23/84 - DVDR #61

43.Ted DiBiase vs. Bob Sweetan - 10/11/85 - Taped Fist - DVDR #35

44.Dick Murdoch vs. Dr. Death - 6/13/87 - DVDR #21

45.The Fantastics & Terry Taylor vs. The Sheepherders & Jack Victory - 5/9/86 - DVDR #74

46.Ted DiBiase vs. One Man Gang - 11/18/1986 - DVDR #78

47.Terry Gordy vs. Dr. Death - 9/28/86 - DVDR #31

48.Terry Gordy vs. Dr. Death - 12/26/86 - DVDR #43

49.Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death vs. Terry Gordy & Michael Hayes - Badstreet Match - 1/25/87 - DVDR #117

50.Hacksaw Duggan & Dick Murdoch vs. Kamala & Kareem Muhammad - 7/14/85 - DVDR #132

51.Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor - 4/28/5 - DVDR #25

52.Brickhouse Brown & Master G vs. Butch Reed and Ernie Ladd - 10/21/84 - DVDR #136

53.Ted DiBiase vs. Jake Roberts - 7/22/85 - DVDR #42

54.Jake Roberts vs. Lord Humongous 11/29/85 - DVDR #129

55.Butch Reed vs. Dick Slater - 11/22/85 - DVDR #112

56.The Fantastics & Terry Taylor vs. The Sheepherders and Jack Victory (Barbed Wire Cage) 5/25/86 - DVDR #57

57.Ted DiBiase vs. One Man Gang, No DQ - 2/6/87 - DVDR #67

58.Rock N Roll Express vs. Dirty White Boys - 5/11/85 - DVDR #46

59.The Fantastics vs. Bill Dundee & Dutch Mantell - 9/22/85 - DVDR #47

60.Ted DiBiase vs. Terry Taylor - 7/3/85 - DVDR #49

61.Butch Reed vs. Ric Flair - 10/11/85 - DVDR #51

62.Butch Reed vs. Ric Flair - 11/8/85 - DVDR #53

63.Fabulous Ones vs. Guerreros - 12/29/85 - DVDR #64

64.Terry Gordy vs. Dr. Death - 12/26/86 - DVDR #55

65.Nick Bockwinkel vs. Dusty Rhodes - 5/20/83 - DVDR #148

66.The Fantastics vs. Midnight Express - No DQ - 9/28/84 - DVDR #62

67.Dick Slater vs. Jake Roberts - 1/24/86 - DVDR #90

68.Fabulous Ones vs. Guerreros - 2/28/86 - Cage - DVDR #54

69.Terry Gordy vs. Dr. Death - 9/15/86 - DVDR #34

70.Dick Murdoch vs. The Nightmare - 7/14/85 - DVDR #58

71.Michale Hayes & Buddy Roberts vs. Ted DiBiase & Terry Taylor - 5/25/86 - DVDR #72

72.Ernie Ladd & Butch Reed vs. Magnum T.A. & Master G - Street Fight - 11/4/84 - DVDR #101

73.Rock N Roll Express vs. Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death - 6/19/85 - DVDR #65

74.Rock N Roll Express vs. Jake Roberts & Barbarian - 6/28/85 - DVDR #76

75.Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death vs. Jake Roberts & Barbarian - 7/14/85 - DVDR #56

76.Hacksaw Duggan, Terry Taylor, & Bill Watts vs. The Fab Freebirds - 8/17/86 - DVDR #77

77.Dick Slater vs. Hacksaw Duggan - 4/11/86 - 118

78.Rock N Roll Express & Hacksaw Duggan vs. Midnight Express & Ernie Ladd - 7/2/84 - 59

79.Buddy Landel & Butch Reed vs. Rock N Roll Express - 3/28/84 - 106

80.Ted DiBiase vs. Brad Armstrong - 2/10/85 - 66

81.Chavo Guerrero vs. Buzz Sawyer - 6/13/86 - 81

82.Eddie Gilbert & Dick Murdoch vs. Lightning Express - 7/21/87 - 85

83.Butch Reed vs. Skip Young - 9/23/84 - 128

84.Midnight Express vs. Bill Dundee & Porkchop Cash - 4/6/84 - 102

85.Butch Reed vs. Iron Sheik - 4/8/83 - 142

86.Rock N Roll Express vs. Midnight Express - 1/21/85 - 75

87.Buddy Landell, Chavo & Hector vs. Rock N Roll & Jose Lothario - 1/18/85 - 113

88.Rock N Roll vs. Chavo & Hector - 2/13/85 - 39

89.Ric Flair vs. Butch Reed - 8/10/85 - 24

90.Ted DiBiase vs. Bob Sweetan - 10/13/85 - 83

91.Terry Taylor vs. Jake Roberts - 2/11/86 - 82

92.Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death vs. Hacksaw Duggan & Terry Gordy - Texas Tornado Match - 1/21/85 - 88

93.Dick Slater vs. Jake Roberts - 1/1/86 - 99

94.Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death vs. Dick Murdoch & Masked SS - 2/14/86 - 71

95.The Fantastics vs. Dutch Mantell & Bill Dundee - 10/4/85 - 100

96.Adrian Street vs. Chris Adams - 10/10/84 - 139

97.Mr. Olympia vs. Bob Roop - 7/15/82 - 69

98.JYD & Mr. Olympia vs. Ted DiBiase & Hacksaw Duggan - 8/18/82 - 95

99.Buzz Sawyer vs. Dr. Death - 1/28/86 - 50

100.Bob Roop vs. Mike George - 12/16/81 - 105

101.Dick Slater vs. Jim Duggan - 12/31/85 - 119

102.Chavo Guerrero vs. Steve Keirn - 1/31/86 - 97

103.Ted DiBiase, Dr. Death & Terry Taylor & Duggan vs. Murdoch, Sawyer, Masked SS - 2/28/86 - 98

104.Terry Gordy vs. One Man Gang - 9/21/86 - 80

105.Chris Adams vs. Terry Taylor - 4/19/87 - 60

106.The Fantastics & Dr. Death vs. The Fab Freebirds - 1/18/87 - 104

107.Kevin Von Erich vs. Chris Adams - 1/18/85 - 121

108.Rock N Roll Express vs. Terry Gordy and Buddy Roberts - 6/24/85 - 92

109.Ted DiBiase vs. Butch Reed - 7/25/85 - 93

110.Fantastics, Duggan vs. Midnights w/ Cornette - 7/20/84 - 122

111.Fantastics vs. Buzz Sawyer & Dick Slater - 10/27/85 - 107

112.Al Perez and Wendell Colley vs. Dr. Death and Bob Sweetan - 8/30/85 - 123

113.Dirty White Boys vs. Terry Daniels and Bill Dundee - 5/11/85 - 73

114.Dick Murdoch vs. Dr. Death - 9/2/85 - 110

115.Dr. Death & Jake Roberts vs. The Fantastics - 4/14/85 - 70

116.Bob Roop vs. Ted DiBiase - 4/2/82 - 133

117.Jim Duggan, Dick Murdoch & Bill Watts vs. Kamala, Kareem Muhammad & Skandor Akbar - 7/28/85 - 137

118.Eddie Gilbert and Dick Murdoch vs. Terry Gordy and Buddy Roberts - 6/25/87 - 108

119.Duggan, Taylor, Watts vs. Freebirds - 7/20/86 - 111

120.DiBiase & Doc vs. Hayes & Roberts - LJ Match - 8/31/86 - 94

121.DiBiase & Doc vs. Gordy and Hayes - Badstreet - 1/9/87 - 109

122.Eddie Gilbert vs. Dr. Death - 5/17/87 - 89

123.Terry Taylor vs. John Tatum - 8/17/86 - 63

124.Brad Armstrong vs. Ted DiBiase - 1/16/85 - 115

125.Dick Slater vs. Butch Reed - 1/1/86 - 86

126.OMG vs. Buck Robley - LJM - 9/15/82 - 116

127.Rock N Roll Express vs. Dirty White Boys - 4/15/85 - 130

128.Gustavo Mendoza vs. Brett Wayne Sawyer - 5/9/86 - 127

129.Killer Khan vs. Chris Adams - 9/9/84 - 131

130.Mr. Wrestling II & JYD vs. Matt Borne and Ted DiBiase - 2/16/83 - 134

131.Stagger Lee and Mr. Olympia vs. Ted DiBiase and Matt Borne - 12/18/82 - 147

132.Mr. Olympia vs. Paul Orndorf - 2/3/82 - 138

133.Dusty Rhodes, Hacksaw Duggan vs. Butch Reed and Hercules Hernandez - 8/19/84 - 140

134.Rock N Roll Express vs. Midnight Express - Scaffold Match - 12/2/84 - 146

135.Fantastics & Missing Link vs. Eddie Gilbert, John Tatum, and Sting - 8/3/86 - 114

136.Terry Gordy vs. Terry Taylor - 6/17/86 - 91

137.Dick Slater vs. Dr. Death - 12/18/85 - 125

138.Rock N Roll Express & Butch Reed vs. Dr. Death, Kamala, and OMG - 144

139.Terry Taylor vs. Buddy Roberts - 6/8/86 - 120

140.Koko Ware vs. Eddie Gilbert - 2/28/86 - 126

141.Butch Reed vs. Dick Slater - 12/13/85 - 145 - clipped, I still liked it and have read good things about the full version.

142.Terry Gordy vs. Terry Taylor (JIP) - 6/13/86 - 103

143.Chris Adams and Terry Taylor vs. Eddie G. and Iceman Parsons - 3/20/87 - 135

144.The Fantastics vs. John Tatum and Jack Victory - 11/04/86 - 87

145.The Fantastics vs. Eddie Gilbert and Sting - 9-7-86 - 141

146.Brett Sawyer and Al Perez vs. Dick Murdoch and Masked SS - 1/19/86 - 124

147.Eddie Gilbert and The Nightmare vs. The Bruise Brothers - 143

148.JYD vs. Nick Bockwinkel - 6/11/82 - 149

149 (actually 150 because I missed one when I listed) - Adrian Street vs. Terry Taylor - LLT - 12/7/84 - 150

 

***I accidentally left out DVDR Ranked #79 Ted DiBiase, Dr. Death, and Jim Duggan vs. Masked SS, Dick Murdoch, and Buzz Sawyer from 01/31/1986. I had that one around ***1/2, and I don't think that would be too far off from where I would place it.