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I think in hindsight we should be able to recognize that Kevin Sullivan was being SMART.

Punk is a multimillionaire I don't see him sitting down to talk with RF any time soon.

I still think they should have Ambrose turn heel on Reigns AND Rollins. Leave Rollins as the little buddy to Reigns, it would probably help them both.

LOL @ Miz "I'm a tough guy"

Is it possible that it's a tape library issue? I remember reading that the WCCW tapes weren't in the best condition when WWE got them. It seems like they've started going in order for ECW now.

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It might be getting better now that he's bringing in his own guys instead of being best buds with Fuller & Golden. Kevin Sullivan rambling about rolling bones and traveling to Singapore doesn't work when he's standing there cutting promos with those guys.

The date on this show is 10/4/1986. Gordon announces that the NWA has announced the next person to throw a punch around the podium area will be suspended from wrestling. First match is a New Guinea Headhunters squash. They come out with flaming torches and Sullivan in a black robe. These guys are essentially the Wild Samoans with facepaint. They win and then Sullivan takes them to the podium with Gordon. Sullivan has a letter from Ron Fuller thanking him for getting rid of Brad Armstrong and congratulating him on winning the Continental title. I can't really understand him there's a big echo in the arena that's never there. RON RULLER IS HERE! He's been traveling all around the world and he just got back here. He doesn't know anything about Kevin Sulivan, he doesn't have anything to do with Sullivan. He wants to know how Sullivan has gotten in his house to make his interviews. Sullivan says that someone from the CIA has tried to wipe his mind when he got back from Singapore. Things get heated and Fuller slams the Headhunters heads together and goes after Sullivan. Damn Fuller is tall. And super lanky. Fuller's hat comes off in the melee and ages him by 15 years. Fuller handles all 3 of them until Stubbs runs out and attacks him from behind then Sullivan grabs a wooden stool and BLASTS Fuller with it. That looked really nasty. The beatdown is finally stopped when all the babyfaces run out and chase them away. Ok so Fuller threw the first punch and now he is suspended. Suspended on your first night back in somewhere around a year. Sullivan now explains his master plan. So they are going to try and sell this as "Sullivan goading Fuller into throwing a punch" when Fuller hadn't even been there this whole time and the suspension deal was JUST made on this show? Jerry Stubbs tries to control the Headhunters in the background of this promo and that has me amused. Rip Rogers comes out for a squash and they just clip this to death. They announce the match as having gone 4+ minutes at the end but it can't be 30 seconds on the show. Afterwards Adrian Street is out with his pink Southeastern Title and talks about Rip Rogers. Street says Rogers just had to come and challenge him for a match, he didn't need to slap Linda. Gordon explains that's the reason the NWA made the ruling that ended up causing Ron Fuller to be suspended from wrestling. He and Rogers cut promos on each other about their upcoming match in Birmingham. Tom Pritchard is out to talk about Roy Lee Welch. Pritchard says he wants his time to review the tape just like Welch had. Pritchard denies that he put anything on his boot and then mocks Welch wearing the crown. He is going to take the U.S. Junior Title. Next match is Jerry Stubbs facing the Alabama Champion Wendell Cooley. Stubbs has on the most ridiculous wig on during his entrance. Gordon must be drunk as he can't tell what color Cooley's trunks are, changing his story a couple times. Dirty White Boy does guest commentary and spends most of the match talking about how good Cooley is. DWB is really putting Cooley over, to the point of pretty much rooting for him in this match. Cooley wins with a roll up. Stubbs congratulates him with a knee to the back that sends him outside to the floor. Stubbs goes outside and beats on him some more but Cooley dodges a chairshot and then hits a Bulldog on Stubbs on the concrete. DWB is nearly orgasmic. DWB goes to the ring to talk to his favorite wrestler and then..attacks him! He beats down Cooley and takes the Alabama belt! I didn't see that coming. That's a pretty simple little swerve someone should do today. We get dueling promos with DWB at the desk with the Alabama Title in the ring. Cooley is going to go get his belt at the desk and DWB says he'll just give it back. He leaves it at the desk and walks away. Cooley gets it and promises to kick DWB's ass in their upcoming match. Welch comes out and talks about Pritchard. This isn't nearly as good as the Horner feud, Welch needs a better babyface than Pritchard who hasn't even really ever turned babyface. Main event is Fuller & Golden defending the tag titles against Bullet & Steve Armstrong. This only goes for about a minute before Kevin Sullivan is out to confront Tom Pritchard who is at ringside w/Fuller & Golden. As he talks to Sullivan The New Guinea Headhunters attack him from behind! Then Sullivan attacks Robert Fuller who is on the outside of the ring! Golden is distracted so Bullet rolls him up for the pin and he and Steve win the tag titles. All heel breaks loose now as Sullivan and The Headhunters take out everyone, Steve Armstrong, The Bullet, Fuller & Golden and the refs. Ron Fuller runs in and Sullivan takes off! Fuller chases him through the crowd and the camera loses them. Back from commercial and Fuller & Golden are at the desk with Gordon Solie. Fuller freaks about being called a former champion. He promises to get revenge on Sullivan, he and Golden are going to take out everyone, Sullivan, The Headhunters & The Armstrongs. There will be a Fuller & Golden vs. The New Guinea Headhunters vs. Bullet & Steve Armstrong "Singapore Suicide Match" next week on TV! The show ends with Ron Fuller at the desk with Gordon. Gordon tells him he's suspended from wrestling. Fuller has the ugly stick with him and he promises to make Sullivan ugly with it. Just because he can't wrestle doesn't mean we won't see him again.

But then they can just take that stuff off of Youtube, put it on the Network and claim ownership of it like they did for that Bret vs Andre match on Bret's latest DVD set.

I just want to say, Kevin Sullivan is in seemingly EVERY segment. He has been seen at the desk with Gordon during nearly every heel's interview time: Jerry Stubbs, Fuller & Golden, Roy Lee Welch. I am really not enjoying his entrance into the territory and while I've resigned myself he's going to be the focus of the rest of the year, I'm hoping he isn't here too long into 1987.

The date on this show is 9/27/86. We start this week's edition of Southeast Gulf Coast Continental Championship Wrestling Federation with the debut of Rip Rogers and his valet Brenda. Gordon lets us know that some fans call her "fleabag" and Rip Rogers would like you to not do that. I can't pay any attention to Rip squashing this jobber (Tony Falk!He looks completely different with the dark beard and blonde hair than he did when I just saw him clean shaven in 85 Memphis) as I'm trying to figure out if Brenda's ass is really that big or it's just the way her outfit is. Rogers wins with a Boston Crab. Rip Rogers has the mic at ringside and calls out Adrian Street. He says he's hiding behind The Bullet. Rogers came here to take the Southeastern Title from Adrian Street. Adrian shows up at the desk with his pink belt and Miss Linda. Adrian asks which one of them is the fleabag and Rogers & Brenda storm up to the desk and we have an...awkward pause at the desk until they get there. They talk trash to each other and then Miss Linda shoves Brenda when she tries to talk. Rip slaps her and now it's on! Refs come out to pull them apart and we go to commercial. To be perfectly honest with you, I am really disappointed that it seems like the Adrian Street feud with Fuller & Golden is already done. They are running down a card that includes a Continental Title match between Wendell Cooley & Kevin Sullivan. It's so impossible to keep up with who has what title here I swear they switch them seemingly every week. Brad Armstrong beat Jerry Stubbs for the belt on the last show! Next match is another debut, this time The New Guinea Headhunters brought in by Kevin Sullivan. They squash some jobbers and pretty much work like Samoans. The next match is Brad Armstrong defending the Continental Title against Kevin Sullivan. Oh...well that solves that mystery. WHERE WAS THE SPOILER ALERT!? So besides the fact that I go into this match annoyed that I know Kevin Sullivan is going to take the title, these two really don't seem to gel. Their timing is all off. Gordon always does these completely random shoutouts, so Janice and Nicole if you're reading this: Gordon wanted to give you a special hello. They get it together and this gets pretty good but then they do a collision spot (one of my most hated transitions) that looks really bad. The finish...wow. That fucking sucked. Brad is going for a backdrop, Sullivan chops him on the back of the neck and then piledrives him to win the Continental Title clean as a sheet. Brad Armstrong looks like a chump. Roy Lee Welch is here! If anyone can set this ship right it's the King of Wrestling himself, OUR U.S. Junior Champion. It's over 27 years later, but I can see no way he'd ever have lost the title in that timespan. He talks about Tom Pritchard slapping him and knocking the crown off his head. He demands respect as the King of Wrestling, from not just the fans but all the rasslers. We see a video of a Tom Pritchard/Roy Lee Welch match. Tom kicks out of a pin and that causes Welch to land on the referee. Hey a ref bump. You could make a Continental drinking game. Drink every time one of the following happens: Ref bump, title change, injury angle, outside interference. But I digress. As the ref is out Tom Pritchard loads his boot while Roy Lee Welch innocently adjusts his tights and turns around to an enzuiguri from Pritchard and loses(?) the match. Welch is not going to be a nice guy about this. He denies that he was pulling out a foreign object in that clip, he was adjusting his tights. I like how Welch gets progressively angrier, yelling at the fans, getting angry at Gordon before ending the promo yelling about Pritchard cheating. Wendell Cooley talks about Sullivan laying with lepers as they do local promos for Sullivan defending the Continental title against the Wildcat. Sullivan says a Wildcat is supposed to be something strong & fierce. But Cooley reminds him of a cat screaming in a dumpster. Next is a tag match and Freddie Miller can't decide one of the jobbers is The Mongol or The Mad Mongolian. The masked jobber covers his ears to The Bullet's entrance music and is indignant at the Bullet's dancing.I appreciate the dedication to his craft. I try to skip through this but Golden & Fuller show up on commentary. Fuller & Golden explain how Steve Armstrong's armbar is illegal, along with pretty much everything else he does offensively. Gordon calls him "El Mongol" so there's a 3rd name for him. Now things get interesting as Fuller goes off on Kevin Sullivan, and he's not happy about Sullivan bringing in a "goon team" like The New Guinea Headhunters. Golden is fantastic as he goes off about Bullet's karate chops and freaks about how can the ref call them the winners when they cheated the entire match. Kevin Sullivan is with Tom Pritchard.He wants Pritchard to help him. Sullivan was called by The Tennessee Stud in Singapore and now he's rolled the bones too. Oh good the phantom Stud, who I've never seen in all of 86 but he's always there as the "big bad" sending guys after Bullet. The Stud wants Sullivan to toughen up Ron Fuller & Jimmy Golden. stud is disappointed in them and wants Sullivan to straighten them out. Pritchard tells Sullivan that he doesn't want to get involved in Sullivan's stuff. He says he doesn't agree with Sullivan's way of life. This was a really forced way to start a Tom Pritchard face turn and Kevin Sullivan is in EVERYTHING. Main event is Ric Flair vs. Wendell Cooley highlights. I'm still surprised that Flair would show up in Alabama in September 1986 to face Wendell Cooley. And looking at results this appears to be Flair's last NWA World Title defense for Continental. Gordon goes shout out crazy. Cooley of course reverses a Figure Four at some point. Solie tries to riff on my joke and tells us about what's going to happen next week on "Souteast Continental Championship wrestling." Gordon is about as bored with this match as I am as he's pretty much doing nothing but shoutouts and hype. The show ends with the match in progress as Gordon tells us about next week's show. This wasn't a very good show but it does have some promise with Adrian Street vs Rip Rogers & Sullivan having problems with Fuller & Golden. Not sure if they are cycling guys for TV but a lot of people missing this episode like DWB, Jerry Stubbs, Tommy Rich, Tim Horner.

Del Rio's debut vignettes were really good. They should have kept him off of live mics & guest commentary. I was excited for his debut, and he debuted in a big way with the Rey feud where he got big wins. But I always felt like he was missing something. His matches with Rey were good, but I don't know. I kind of want to say his style has never fit his gimmick, but I'm not sure I can really explain it.

Whoa whoa whoa. Has anyone watched the Biggest Backstabs Countdown? There is a VERY surprising cameo on that one that makes me think they are going to be talking to just about ANYONE for the Network.

I can't think of a more intriguing match to me than young, in his prime Andre the Giant vs. 2004 Brock Lesnar,

So help me understand the logic behind drowning = ok, choking with a tie = fired. I don't really give a shit but it does seem kind of silly after there was such a big stink about the tie incident that they have they have the "COO" doing that while his wife yells drown him.

There's a huge amount of Southwest floating around out there. Having looked at the listings they have enough to stuff to make a couple good DVDs, but I don't think there is really any market left for people buying old territory DVDs at $20 a pop.

I'm just going to roll my eyes at that bit of "news"

If someone was going to make a set of the best matches of the 80s from misc territories, that Street/Bullet vs. Fuller/Golden tag would be a lock, IMHO. Here it is on youtube. Do yourself a favor and watch it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oF0WcMU7TM

David Woods still owns the Continental footage but I've never even heard of that being on their radar. Buying WWC footage would be a nice way to try and market The Network to Spanish speaking audiences, and a lot of the 80s stuff has plenty of American stars as well.

The date for this show is 9/20/86. Apparently something we missed last week was Jerry Stubbs throwing away the Alabama State Title. Gordon talks about a tournament that will be held for the Alabama Title. He says Stubbs won't be in the tournament and Kevin Sullivan & Stubbs come out with a letter from a "circuit court judge" stating that Jerry Stubbs will be in the Alabama tournament. The first match of the show is Brad Armstrong vs. Jerry Stubbs for the Continental title. This is a pretty good match. Finish is a very rare ref bump followed by Stubbs throwing powder in Brad's eyes. Wendell Cooley comes out and jumps up on the apron. Stubbs goes to hit him and Cooley ducks it, Brad rolls Stubbs up and the ref recovers to count 3. Brad Armstrong is the new Continental champion! Fine turn of events, Stubbs throws away the Alabama title as a cocky dual champion last week and now he loses the Continental Title this week. Gordon talks about Scott Armstrong's injury & surgery. He interviews Scott and they talk about how his wrestling career may be over. Scott has taken a new job as the events coordinator. Call Scott if you're looking to bring Continental Wrestling to your school or civic organization. They run down an upcoming card in Columbus and I'm surprised that Flair is still coming here as late as September of 1986. Damn, we must have missed something good because there's a Tag Team Tornado No DQ Match between Adrian Street & Bullet vs. Fuller & Golden. Cooley says Hulkamania has nothing on Wildcat Fever. Ok brah. Awwww mannnn Tim Horner is in the ring with the U.S. Junior Title around his waist and I have no idea how he got that back. How did I miss that? He's facing the challenge of ROY LEE WELCH! Excuse me, The King of Wrestling, Roy Lee Welch. Hopefully we will see the rightful champion gain back his title in this one. Roy can see the sneaky intent in Tim Horner's eyes as the ref is checking Horner for foreign objects so Roy decides to cut off Horner's inevitable sneak attack with one of his own. Horner rolls out of a hip toss attempt and hits an illegal closed fist punch. Horner is in control until he misses a charge into the corner and hits his shoulder in the post. I'm so sick of seeing that move but I can't fault them because it wasn't done seemingly every other match in 1986. For some reason Gordon keeps calling Roy's perfectly legal forearms "hard right hands." Finish is pretty much exactly the same as their first match I reviewed from back in I think June where Horner rolls him up and Welch uses the tights to reverse it and win. Except this time he wins, no, gains back RIGHTFUL POSSESSION of HIS U.S. Junior Title! We're at the desk with Kevin Sullivan & Gordon Solie and Solie has the new Alabama Title with him. The station decides that this would be the perfect time to put their station ID up and cover up the belt. Somebody really fucks up the editing because Gordon builds up them showing a replay of the interview Kevin did last week, they cut to a black screen for a second, like a placeholder for the interview video, and then go right back to the desk with Gordon & Kevin. Kevin cuts some stupid promo about going to Calcutta & Mount Fuji & Singapore and blah blah for some reason he's going on and on and "To be a King you have to kill a king" He'd better stay away from Roy Lee Welch. Kevin squashes some jobber after that. Some stuff as the last two Sullivan matches, chairs, tables, ringpost. He finishes with the double stomp instead of the Mongolian Sleeper so I'm not even sure if he's still doing that. Local promos to build up the show in Columbus has. Tim Horner cuts a promo lying to everyone about how he's going to beat Roy Lee Welch for the U.S. Junior Title. Debbie Combs talks about defending against Miss Linda and Roy Lee Welch lets everyone know that Horner never beat him for the U.S. Junior Title and he never will. Wendell Cooley comes out for a squash hugging and kissing people on the way to the ring. Man, it used to be so much easier to get over as a babyface. If Cooley gets 100% crowd support as goofy as he can be, John Cena would have been deified back in the territories. Cooley wins with a Bulldog. Jerry Stubbs is backstage with Freddie Miller and Kevin Sullivan because he's not been on TV enough. Stubbs wants his Continental Title back while Kevin calls the Armstrongs inbred. Kevin is probably pretty annoyed that Brad's promo pretty much shit on Kevin's mystic gimmick & looking into crystal balls. Kevin is going to show Brad the difference between first class breeding and being an inbred. Oh hell yea! Main event is newly turned babyface Adrian Street & The Bullet vs. Fuller & Golden. I remember reading about Adrian Street turning babyface by saving Bullet from a Fuller/Golden attack so I have to assume that happened last week on the half of the show I don't have. Wish I could have seen that but this should be good. Street definitely isn't changing up his entrance just because he's a face now. Oh my god this match is so good. Bullet whips Golden into Street so Street kisses him! Golden freaks out and Bullet sends him back with an atomic drop and this time he gets a forearm. Golden rolls out and is still freaking out about Street kissing him. Street gets tagged in while Bullet has Golden in a headlock so Street grabs his ass. Golden freaks so Bullet nails him with a punch on his way out. Golden falls down in the corner so Street goes in and kisses him again! Golden rolls out again and he and Fuller decide to ditch this match. The ref is about to count them out but Street interupts the count and they decide to come back. Golden doesn't want to come out of his corner so Street prances in to mess with him and gets caught in their corner and they beat up on him. Street makes the tag but Fuller runs in before he does to distract the referee so he doesn't see it. Street finally makes the tag and it all breaks down from there. Bullet winds up with a sleeper on Fuller outside the ring but Tom Pritchard comes out and hits him with some kind of foreign object. Then he goes in and hits Street and they start a 3 on 1 beatdown on Street. Miss Linda tries to come in and help so Golden holds her while Tom tries to kiss her. She appears to bite him so then he starts slapping her around and then kisses her again. Finally Steve Armstrong runs out and clears the ring. Pritchard, Fuller & Golden end the show with a promo. Dr. Tom says Miss Linda loved it and now she finally knows what it's like to be with a real man. Street is in the ring with Freddie Miller and he's PISSED! He threatens to beat Tom to death. Fuller tells Street if he wants to kiss something he can kiss his fist! Show goes off with Gordon hyping next week's show with the debut of the New Guinea Headhunter and highlights of the Alabama tournament.

This is a Two out of Three Falls: First fall straight wrestling match, second fall is a Street Fight and the third fall is a Cage Match. During the first fall J.R. makes me laugh saying "We used to say the same thing about HHH that he was just a scientific guy, that he wasn't a brawler" After Lawler says Austin is just a brawler and doesn't know much about scientific wrestling. Austin does a Lou Thesz press too close to the ropes that looked like shit. I liked Austin using some kind of arm breaker to get out of the Pedigree and then working on HHH's arm. By beating it against the ringpost. I can't fault him, that's certainly faster and more efficient than an armbar. They use one of the worst transition spots of "jump off the top rope into my foot" leading to HHH focusing his attack on Austin's neck then the knee. Triple H keeps selling his arm and I appreciate that. Austin really doesn't sell the knee when he goes on offense. This started as a brawl and then settled down into a pretty good wrestling match but the finish to this sucks. Triple H jumping off the second rope into that kick for the Stunner looked like shit. Second fall is a Street Fight and immediately goes outside where Austin suplexes HHH twice on the steel ramp. Then they do some brawling in the crowd which ends with HHH doing a very funny, at least to me, jump over the barrier to bump on the mats at ringside. Austin beats the hell out of HHH with a chair essentially Garvin Stomping him with it while he's down. I'm kind of glad they don't use chairs like this any more with the exception of Brock lately. Then Austin brings out a 2x4 with barbed wire, which doesn't feel right and of course he doesn't even use it as HHH counters and then hits him with it in a really lame looking shot. Then the barbed wire that didn't come close to his face cuts him open. I guess it's not the WORST "foreign object that didn't come close to the head" blade job I've ever seen. HHH still sells the arm and it causes him to not be able to Pedigree Austin through the announce table who backdrops him through the other announce table. I liked Austin using a beer can as a weapon. A lot more appropriate than the barbed wire 2x4. I love Lawler accusing J.R. of putting the sledgehammer under their table. It is kind of an obvious question of how would he not have noticed that. Austin goes down to the HHH patented "hit you with my hand that is covering the sledgehammer" shot leading to a Pedigree. 3rd Fall is a Cage Match. I'm not sure this order works, a Street Fight feels more intense than a Cage Match. Austin takes a great bumps off being tossed into the cage. HHH digging the barbed wire 2x4 into Austin's face is pretty brutal even if you know it's rubber tipped. Austin does the same to HHH and they're doing a good job of ramping up the intensity for the 3rd fall. Austin kicks out of a Pedigree and HHH kicks out of a Stunner. I don't really like the ending of Austin hitting HHH with the 2x4 at the same time as HHH hits him with the Sledgehammer and HHH falling on top for the pin. Mostly because HHH did a really shitty job of looking like he was knocked out. Maybe my review sounds negative but I thought this was a pretty good match. I'm pretty sure I would not call this the best WWE match of 2001 and not even Austin or HHH's best because they have that tag match together with Benoit/Jericho when HHH gets injured. I do think it is a fair match to point to as evidence of HHH as a good worker at the time. I thought his performance in this match was better than Austin's. They probably could have made the 2 Man Power Trip work a little more if they'd played up the ending to this match and had J.R. and Lawler speculate about how they both didn't want to wrestle each other again.

Found this series of videos today looking around youtube. The description says this starts around March/April 1984. I'm not sure when but I guess sometime in 83 Bob Armstrong had an accident lifting weights and weights fell and crushed most of the bones in his face. I'm not sure how it happened because Bob keeps kayfabe on his shoot interview and blames it on Ted DiBiase, which was the reason they used in Georgia. So anyway, Jerry Stubbs is teaming with Arn Anderson and they injure Robert Fuller. Ron gets Andre the Giant to be his partner but Bob Armstrong sends in a video talking about how getting injured changed his perspective on life, and now he is trying to right some of the things he did wrong. He apologizes to Ron Fuller for costing him the World Title and hurting his knee, and he offers to be Ron's partner against Stubbs & Anderson. That's just the first 2 parts. I haven't finished it yet but I'm not going to spoil it once I do in case anyone wants to check this out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72z3Ua2hWc0

Found a thread with a bunch of results from Knoxville. This looks like the promotion that Memphis Mark wrote about. http://sportsandwrestling.mywowbb.com/forum2/18374-1.html I really wish I could see this: