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  1. Loss
    Jimmy Hart sends in another great interview. Not quite as good as the previous one, but still way better than his WWF stuff. Then we get the Dream Warriors, who I don't recognize, with a manager that's some type of Paul E. clone. They have decent charisma.
  2. Loss
    Another interview gloating about the title win. Get the belt to Bret for something different already.
  3. Loss
    A rematch of the famous March '91 Starrcade in Tokyo match that falls pretty short by comparison. Not much crowd heat, and the Steiners are not really in the mood to do much selling, which hurts the match. Also, by this time, the stock for the Steiners was really starting to drop, and it showed. I do like Hase and Sasaki as a team. Sasaki is the least guy in the match, but has a good attitude and he's at least trying. The match has its moments. Scott does take a great bump off a release German from Sasaki, and it wakes up the crowd. And when they start taking the match home, it gets good. This isn't a bad match at all. But it takes forever to get going, and the Steiners are starting to seem like yesterday's news by the end of 1992, even when they do nice stuff. Scott terribly botches the Frankensteiner near the end.
  4. Loss
    Last few minutes. The spot where Austin drops Chono awkwardly and injures his neck looks really nasty. Also interesting to see this in the context of Austin being so upset about Owen doing the same thing to him.
  5. Loss
    Just like I like the other Takada/Albright matches, I like this one, but they do tend to run together and go too long. For the occasional suplexes Albright is good for, there is quite a bit of laying on the mat. Takada's late rally with kicks to Albright's knees is terrific. Good match, but nothing I feel compelled to ever watch again.
  6. Loss
    Flair in gloating mode is always fun. They were clearly headed toward a Warrior title win until real life intercepted.
  7. Loss
    Good, short interview hyping Havoc.
  8. Loss
    Solid match, but it can't touch the house show match earlier in the month. The storyline is that the Bodies agreed to give the Rock & Rolls a shot one time only, but the Stud Stable interferes to keep that from happening. Dutch said the line earlier on that he bet the Stable was watching on hoping the Rock & Rolls would win so they would get their shot, but the finish contradicted that.
  9. Loss
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  10. Loss
    Not exactly sure, but it will be the next set released. If I had to guess, probably within the next month. Goodhelmet can correct me if I'm wrong.
  11. Loss
    I will be closing this thread in two days. If anyone has any additional nominations, please make sure you get them in quickly.
  12. Loss
    I liked this too, but it had some problems. Cena gave Ziggler quite a bit in this match. Whether he sold too much for him or not depends on your point of view. If you look at it as the #1 guy against a guy pretty far from the #1 guy, yes, he sold too much for him. If you look at it as a company where the belts still mean everything they should and this was the #1 and #2 guys (World vs IC champ) locking it up, then it was about where it needed to be. One of those matches where I have trouble divorcing context from what happened in the ring, because it does make a difference to me in how "good" the match is. What was weird about this is that while Cena did sell for him an awful lot, there were times when cutoffs would have worked well, like Cena coming back from the half nelson and then showing big time daylight in breaking the hold. On the plus side, this was really high-energy with a hot crowd and they did as much as they really could within the confines of this match to make Dolph seem like a threat. Feels like an early 90s WCW syndie match, which is what I would say about a lot of what I've watched so far.
  13. Loss
    Cornette with multiple things to talk about is always best. Dutch should conduct all wrestling interviews on all wrestling shows.
  14. Loss
    Really fun match, maybe the best I've ever seen Horner look. Less than 10 minutes and really simply laid out. Horner gets in all the stuff he does that always looks good and nothing else. For the type of match this was, perfect in length. It's not great, but it doesn't need to be. It's setting up a future match between the two. Dutch on commentary continues to be awesome.
  15. Loss
    Clips of a Kingsport, TN, house show match where Orndorff swipes Garvin's towel from him and uses it to tie him by the neck around the ring ropes. Orndorff's stuff looks really good in beating them up, but the heat is disappointing. Garvin does an interview vowing revenge. Seems a little silly to be feuding over a towel (listen to Garvin's promo to see what I mean).
  16. Loss
    I love that Savage is still selling the knee. Pretty transparent attempt to recreate the Mega Powers. Maybe this is around the time we could start seeing hints that Vince was falling behind the times. That would become even more apparent in '93. Anyway, this was probably pretty cool for younger kid fans at the time.
  17. Loss
    Good match, but not the classic you might hope for, especially if you have seen their 1990 match. It takes a while for things to get cooking, although when it does, it's really good. I love Dandy settling an even keeled slugfest by DDTing Satanico, and the Indian deathlock pinning combo that finished the first fall was tremendous. This has some really good visuals because of all of the blood, and the real finish at the end looks great, but considering Dandy was going over anyway, I'm not sure why they did the double pin first. I definitely enjoyed this, and it's a good addition to their resumes, but not near the best stuff these guys have done together.
  18. Loss
    Lots of kids get drunks for dads and they don't get the upside of him being rich and famous. I was responding to your point that Flair's kids have benefitted.
  19. Loss
    I will also clarify my point by saying I think ignoring size difference when working a match is equally as short-sighted. This is a reason Abyss is hard for me to get into -- he bumps the same for pretty much everyone, and sells way too much. Yes, Snitsky has a strength advantage. That doesn't mean Rey can't beat him. It means Rey has to beat him using a different skill set than he would a smaller opponent. Likewise, it means Snitsky has to keep the pace slow. When you see a match where a smaller guy beats a bigger guy and it takes you out of the moment, you've likely seen a poorly worked match, not a ridiculous concept. I just can't buy into the idea that in a match between two wrestlers, the bigger wrestler should always be the one who goes over. But I have said before and I will say again -- because of his skill set, Rey is one of the most credible guys in the roster. If he wasn't, none of his false finishes would ever get a reaction. They almost always do.
  20. Loss
    While I find Rey's matches fun to watch, I have a harder time buying him as a "threat" than Snitsky. Let's say you inadvertently offend someone in a bar. Are you hoping he looks more like Rey or Snitsky? Credibility encompasses a lot of things, and to say it all falls on having the right look is pretty short-sighted. Besides, Rey isn't huge, but he's an incredibly skilled athlete. I'm taller and heavier than Rey. I would imagine most people on this board are. It means nothing. Also, theoretically, wrestling is a sport. The object is to use skill to win, not to maim the opponent. It's just that sometimes, the only way to win is to prevent the other wrestler from winning by hurting him. Wrestling cred and barfighting cred are not synonymous. I don't even like the term "fake fighting" because wrestling is not fighting. It requires a skill set beyond just being "tough". Conditioning, speed, stamina, offense, ability to take a beating and won/loss record all contribute far more to cred in wrestling than size/look. If the opposite is true, it's only because promoters condition fans to think otherwise.
  21. Loss
    I would imagine the kids of wrestlers like Jake Roberts, Lex Luger, Scott Hall and probably Flair would probably not say they were riding any kind of wave in their childhoods. It's one of those things that may seem sort of cool at first, but I always imagined the life of a kid whose dad is a wrestler is filled with far more downside than upside. There are exceptions of course, but we know about a lot of kids who have been subject to some crummy things.
  22. Loss
    The Daniels/Modest match on Nitro was horrifying in so many ways -- terribly worked and counterproductively booked to boot. It was my first exposure to Daniels and I always looked at that whole segment as infamously bad.
  23. Loss
    I've never thought size had anything to do with believability. Skill does. It's why I buy Rey as a threat more than I buy, say, Snitsky as a threat.
  24. Loss
    I suspect Flair was an occasional steroid guy at his peak, and probably a regular user as he got older and needed to maintain a certain look for television. Dave has hinted around before that he does what he has to do to be on television.
  25. Loss
    Flair still lives a lavish lifestyle. He has yet to really suffer the consequences of his choices. Yes, he is broke, but he still finds ways to spend money he doesn't have. Until he ends up in jail, it's just going to continue.
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