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Now I feel guilty about having guilty pleasures.
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I don't want to say too much about this one because it will spoil what I'm going to write about it in the e-book, but a rewatch only raised my opinion of this even more. Toyota fighting to prove her worth all through the match while Yamada is the repeated savior, the ongoing Yamada-Kansai footwork battle, Ozaki's heat-seeking tactics throughout the match and Toyota's moment of redemption at the end all add up to make this quite the ride. Pretty amazing stuff.
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- November 26
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Well this had some spectacular replay value, and is the one match I wouldn't take down a notch. However, this match is more in line with the description I gave Dandy-Azteca than Dandy-Azteca is. But really, as great as El Dandy is in this match, Negro Casas's performance is on an entirely different level and he's the star of the match. How he's able to take so much of the match offensively and still seem vulnerable is a testament to his sense of timing (small Dandy comebacks at just the right moments and for just the right reasons) and his ability to create a great nearfall. I feel like each fall of this sort of works as a strong match on its own, but taken together you get the all-time classic. Something else I'll credit Casas for is that stretch of nearfalls in the third fall of this. Each one got an electric pop and that was because of Casas' incredible sixth sense on knowing the precise moment to raise a shoulder to get the biggest reaction possible. I don't want to call this a one-man performance as I'm not sure Casas could have had this match with anyone else, but he was the guy carrying the load here.
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What a difference a few years makes. I still love this match, but I'd take it down ever so slightly. I'm making a note here to remind myself to do a direct comparison to Liger-Sano from 1/90 because this seems more on par with that now. Looking back at my comments, there's not much I'd say differently. It's just that my enthusiasm waned a little after seeing it again. Still an all-time classic, but this is three matches I've watched tonight that I thought were five-star matches originally and three matches I wouldn't give that distinction anymore. I didn't expect that.
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- Top of the Super Juniors
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Another match I saw differently this time around. I'd take this down a few notches, as I don't see this as a five-star match anymore. Still great though. More than the ringwork (which is excellent), the best part of this is watching Rambo get on the same plane as Negro Casas and try to outwork him. The end result is an unspoken competition between teammates to see who can outwork who, and I'd call that a stalemate if I was being generous. I think Rambo outshined a very motivated Casas, which in 1992 didn't happen very often. The physical comedy, great pacing (fast without being forced), unique double and triple team spots and the terrific flying from Los Cowboys are the best qualities of this match. The finishing stretch contained a boatload of great spots, false finishes, comic touches and crowd interaction, to the point that I think it swept me away before. The match as a whole is a pretty great and rewarding watch, but not at the level I thought initially.
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- february 29
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I rewatched this match tonight. I'm looking at it in a very different way and need more time to think about it. I don't think I overrated it before necessarily (although I probably did slightly) but I had a different takeaway of what the match was this time around. It was less of a master's class mat display and more a powerful statement of how great a well-executed simple wrestling match can be. Now, the matwork is top notch, but I think it's the simple and straightforward path they took in the layout that distinguishes this from other great mat-based matches more than the actual matwork. I didn't get the feeling they were shooting for an epic, although they did hit that level. Some matches - especially on big shows - are worked in a way to artificially make them seem "bigger" than they are. This came by that feeling naturally, and it happened at a regular TV taping at Arena Coliseo. So I respect the match for being better than I think they even intended it to be. I have Casas-Dandy from '92 on deck to watch next and I think I'll be able to better articulate what I'm trying to say after watching that one. This was special, but not because it aimed to be something special, if that makes any sense at all.
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Welcome! If you're the same BWT from before, I always thought you were hilarious.
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Interesting list! Hope I can find all or most of the blue matches online.
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And that's on me. The bleeding heart liberal in me that always wants to appeal to everyone on everything and understand the other side takes pretty much all criticism earnestly. The problem is that sometimes, I give credibility to criticisms that are baseless in an attempt to be accommodating. We've seen what the end result of that is now. So I'm not concerned with it anymore. I know the truth, as do the people who post here and enjoy the board. That's all I care about now. And of course new people are always welcome here, no matter what their take on wrestling is. But that's self-evident. I didn't need to be spelling it out all this time.
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This is a positive thread with lots of great examples of disagreements that have happened here, and it's just the tip of the iceberg. If it looks odd (which I don't think it does), then I guess it will just have to look odd.
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Not to be harsh, but if that's how you feel, go. This was not about a single tweet by the way, and no one was "hurt" by it. He was caught being disingenuous for the umpteenth time and we'd had enough of it.
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I agree that since rovert is not here to defend himself, I don't want to use this thread to attack him. I'm here to defend myself if someone disagrees with me, but rovert can't.
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Last time I closed a thread about a contentious topic, I got quite a bit of flak for it. I don't want to do that again.
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No. It's obvious you are sensitive to the idea of mod/admin intervention except in extreme cases. The good news is that we are too. These disagreements are going to happen sometimes when we do feel like we have to take action, and that's to be expected. But hopefully the good still outweighs the bad by a healthy margin. In a perfect world, we'd never need to ban anyone again.
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This thread was designed to air grievances, so I have no problem with the "shite" comment. I just read right past it until someone pointed it out.
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Yes, I hacked his Twitter.
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I am an evil admin who gets off on abusing my power, which is why I am so quick to ban people for nothing. Is that better? You won't be satisfied until you get the outcome from this that you think is the only correct outcome, so we're at an impasse. So be it.
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It wasn't that he mentioned Murdoch, it was that he implied that we would all be so infuriated by him not making the HOF that we would have to "close (the board) down". That's equivalent to accusing everyone of pretending to like Big Show and Mark Henry. Had he never made the Show-Henry comments, I never would have interpreted it that way.
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He was asked to stop generalizing the board. He generalized the board yet again. It's as simple as that. I'm not sure what else I can say.
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Because I wanted to give him another chance, and I did.
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Read this thread from where I am linking you through to the next page. That's the most recent example. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/9754-dave-meltzer-stuff/?p=5638263 I can dig farther back if needed.
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Yes, he's been banned from the board. It's not just because of what happened on Twitter. It's primarily because he likes making passive-aggressive generalizations about PWO as a whole when he has a disagreement with something someone said instead of responding to the individual. He has been asked to stop doing that more than one time - nicely. He has continued to do it. His cheapshot on Twitter was not the first time he has done this. I have a feeling that if we brought him back, it would only continue. If he wants to take swipes at the board, that's fine, but he doesn't have to post here anymore. I was tired of hearing so much complaining about him from others anyway. The two of us went back and forth on Twitter today and he claimed that he was just making a joke. I believe him, but the joke was yet another sarcastic attempt to bash the board. If it genuinely was not intended that way, then I guess he's the boy that cried wolf and that's a shame. I'd prefer not to have a big back-and-forth about this, and I'm hoping that by being fully transparent that we won't need one. But if anyone disagrees with this decision, they can post here. I only ask that you keep it contained to this thread.
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Where the Big Boys Play #68 - Clash of the Champions 17
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Publications and Podcasts
The conversation on the tag match is just outstanding. I think this is my favorite WTBBP, and I'm not even done yet.- 18 replies
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- Arn Anderson
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