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If you think I'm going to give you a free pass on that weak argument you're insane. With that said I like both guys. Dibiase to me was a good worker, but not at the elite level. I feel Rude's 92 is better than any year either had. Though Dibiase has the classic feuds in spades over Rude. I also feel Ted was more consistent. On top of it Ted has better tag work than Rude.
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Did you really compare Flair working Ted in 85 to Flair working a broken down Rude in 93. That's a pretty smoke and mirror argument buddy.
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I was wrong. My memory had it backwards. My apologies Hawkeye.
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I expect some fucked up finishes in the top 2 matches.
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Kushida vs Roderick Strong 5/12/15 ROH War of The Worlds This is one of the matches I'm most looking forward to. They didn't disappoint and tore the house down. We start with a battle for control. Kushida gets an early shine sequence. Strong cuts him off a dive by slamming him back 1st on the apron. Here Roddy just destroys his back. He even uses a Tarantula. Kushida is pretty great at selling the back. Kushida builds to his comeback . I love Kushida going after the arm. We see a hover board dive. Kushida is on fire. The guys build to a really hot finish with a lot of great nearfalls. The finish was a great payback to the back work on Kushida. 4 1/2*
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The Bullet Club vs ROH All Stars 5/15/15 Global Wars I loved this match and really saved the show for me. We start off with wild chaotic fight. This was going all over ringside. It settles down a bit and Strong starts as the FIP. While this is going on we have some more fighting between groups on the floor. They work over strong really well and Strong is a bad ass in the FIP role. On top of that he really showed a lot of fire in the roll. The ROH side work over Nick Jackson and this was well done. So far we have a wild fight, We get a great shine sequence, and then a really well done Heat segment. On top of that Hanson gets a 2nd FIP spot and he's terrific in the role. In between all of this we have more fighting and an array of amazing dives and highspots. Everyone gets their moment in the sun. in an homage to the Von Erich triple dropkick the Bullet Club hit a 5 man super kick. Strong superplexing everyone out of their boots. On top of this the crowd is going nuts. I was blown away by this, and had a big time feel to it. 4 3/4*
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I did this show a rewatch and here are my final thoughts. Gedo/Moose vs Young/Wattanabe This was a Moose showcase. Other than those shitty headbutts he looked like a killer. I like what I've seen of Wattanabe on the 2 shows this weekend. 1 3/4* Sabin vs Kushida vs OReilly A fun match. I'm not a fan of 3 ways but this was ok. Kushida looked great here. O'Reilly had some fun moments here. Kushidas and O'Reilly's interactions made the match and has me hoping for a BOSJ Final. 3* Kingdom vs Liger/Sydal This was a solid southern tag. Sydal was on fire. Liger got a huge pop. I wish they didn't do the Maria spot with Liger, but it was fun and the match wasn't built around Maria. I like my booking idea that Maria's bra is laced with either and that's why guys act all loopy after the motorboat. 2 3/4* Okada vs Alexander I overrated this a bit when I 1st watched it. It's still good. I liked Okada's work on top. Alexander's selling was really good. He's a great underdog babyface and he really did a good job getting a pro Okada crowd behind him. He made a great comeback at the end. Okada is a master at timing his kick outs. 3 1/2* Addiction vs Roppongi Vice vs The Addiction This was good. Again I think it would have been better if we cut the Decade out of this. Baretta's FIP work was good narrative in the match. I liked Addiction's heel work here. Romero's charisma smoked everyones in the match. Sometime he relies on the comedy too much. 3* ACH vs Nakamura This didn't meet my expectations. It was fun though. It felt by the time ACH got on a roll the match was over. 3 1/4* Lethal vs Naito This is a match between 2 guys who don't usually deviate from their comfort zone. Pretty much what I expected. Still even knowing how it would play out it was pretty good. Naito's offense made for a great comeback. 3 1/4* Tanahashi vs Elgin Elgin worked on top most of the way and his work really doesn't interest me. He has some fun power spots but it's not enough if you lack story telling. Tanahashi working underneath was solid, but not amazing. He worked really hard here. The finish was very odd. 2 1/2* The Bullet Club vs ROH All Stars I loved this match and really saved the show for me. We start off with wild chaotic fight. This was going all over ringside. It settles down a bit and Strong starts as the FIP. While this is going on we have some more fighting between groups on the floor. They work over strong really well and Strong is a bad ass in the FIP role. On top of that he really showed a lot of fire in the roll. The ROH side work over Nick Jackson and this was well done. So far we have a wild fight, We get a great shine sequence, and then a really well done Heat segment. On top of that Hanson gets a 2nd FIP spot and he's terrific in the role. In between all of this we have more fighting and an array of amazing dives and highspots. Everyone gets their moment in the sun. in an homage to the Von Erich triple dropkick the Bullet Club hit a 5 man super kick. Strong superplexing everyone out of their boots. On top of this the crowd is going nuts. I was blown away by this, and had a big time feel to it. 4 3/4*
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Strong has moved into my top 5 wrestlers of 2015.
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ROH WOTW 5/12/15 Night 1 Gedo vs Delrious This was a nice match to start off. The backbone of the match was built on comedy. Delirious did 3 weak looking headbutts in the corner. Overall a fun opener. Kushida vs Roderick Strong This is one of the matches I'm most looking forward to. They didn't disappoint and tore the house down. We start with a battle for control. Kushida gets an early shine sequence. Strong cuts him off a dive by slamming him back 1st on the apron. Here Roddy just destroys his back. He even uses a Tarantula. Kushida is pretty great at selling the back. Kushida builds to his comeback . I love Kushida going after the arm. We see a hover board dive. Kushida is on fire. The guys build to a really hot finish with a lot of great nearfalls. The finish was a great payback to the back work on Kushida. 4 1/2* Lethal vs Wattanabe Lethal was great at eating Wattanabe's big moves. Letahl was great at making Wattanabe here. We get Lethal's dives. He works on top a bit. Though Lethal's best asset here was taking an ass kicking. 2 3/4* Kingdom vs Young Bucks vs Addiction This was a fun match with a lot of cool high spots. The Bucks really were the gel in this match. 3 1/2* Elgin vs Naito These guys working styles don't really click. Their styles don't really mesh.2* ReDreagon vs Liger/Tanahashi This was a nice southern tag. All 4 guys looked good. reDragon looked tremendous. This was a real meat and potato style match that I'm a fan of. 3 1/4* AJ Styles vs Adam Cole Styles is the best wrestler in the world, and I'm not a huge Cole fan between the ropes. So I'm curious how this with shake out. This was pretty great. It's the 2nd best match of the night. Their were a couple of things that brought it down for me. 1st after that nasty Bloody Sunday on the apron Cole takes most of the 20, but when he's back in he's able to get the advantage too quickly. The other thing that bothered me was when Styles took his own finisher by Cole and kicked out was very WWE, but whatever. What bothered me was he too got back on top too quickly. Styles strikes were really nasty tonight. I liked Styles destroying Coles neck throughout. The finish was nasty and very final. 3 3/4* Briscoes vs Okada/Nakamura The handshake deal was amusing. Nakamura should use some of this schtick when he's working NJPW multi mans on the house shows. I liked the teasing of finishers early straight out of the Jake Roberts teasing of the DDT book. This was a good showcase, but the match seemed to be booked too long. Okada is a master of timing those kick outs. 3* Overall i thought this was an easy thumbs up show. I felt this was a better show up an down the card than the Global Wars IPPV. Though that main event at Global Wars was amazing.
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Hogan/Savage was the main. A lot of the results they use I believe are newspaper clippings that state the card. So the changes aren't reflected in the results. Some are actual results. I know it didn't last long, but I thought Tully missed about a week or 2 of bookings.
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I might skip the Round Rock show if this is what they're selling.
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That is wrong. When Tully was injured/Susupended Arn had singles matches against one of the Bushwackers on the house shows Tully couldn't attend. Certainly possible, but I can't find any singles results during the time they feuded with the Bushwhackers. Once Tully was fired in late 1989, he teamed with Haku and even Akeem once as fill ins but all still tag matches. I saw it at the Houston Summit.
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That is wrong. When Tully was injured/Susupended Arn had singles matches against one of the Bushwackers on the house shows Tully couldn't attend.
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The VOD for War of the Worlds Night 1 from Philly is up.
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It flowed better to me. Nak's work on ACH's neck. The finish had a finality to it.
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I rewatched Nak/ACH and I was a little harsh on it. In rewatch it was in the 3 1/2*. The main event is still amazing. The crowd seemed better miked this time around too.
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You're right about Nigel.
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Plus it seems their were a lot of travel issues. Fish never made it. ACH had the trip from hell and had to borrow gear, and Hanson was held up at the border.of some So the energy level of some of the guys might not have been where it needed to be.
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A lot of the matches didn't meet my expectations. Though they didn't stink the joint out. You can question some of the booking decisions. Like the portrayl of Liger. Losing reDragon hurt. Making Kushida's match a 3 way probabaly hurt it. Most of the undercard was in the 2 1/2- 3 * range for me. The Main Event was off the charts. I also liked Okada/Alexander a ton. I need to give Nak/ACH a rewatch and see if my expectation level played into my liking the match. For me a thumbs up show.
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The Bullet Clubb vs ROH All Stars Bullet Club is over huge. These guys bare tearing it up. A superplex to the outside. They need their heads examined. Yes it was over kill at times, but holy shit that was amazing and a MOTYC.
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Tanahashi vs Elgin Elgin quit the flip leg drop it sucks. Stick to the suplexes it makes more sense for your character. Elgin is a guy who doesn't work a match. He just spreads out the stuff he does. Pretty much what I was expecting.
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Lethal vs Naito This is a match between 2 guys who don't usually deviate from their comfort zone. Pretty much what I expected. Still even knowing how it would play out it was pretty good.
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ACH vs Nakamura ACH is wearing pants.I thought this was ok. I was expecting more. It fewlt like we got token spots w/o story. Maybe my expectation level was too high.
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Roppongi Vice vs The Decade vs The Addiction Baretta really carried the match with his FIP work. It was full of hot moves, tons of nearfalls. You could say they ran through too many finishers. I liked the actual finish though with Daniels stealing the win.