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[1994-01-08-SMW-TV] Music Video: Dirty White Boy
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in January 1994
The Foreigner song, right? I remember reading and reading about his programs in SMW and it was quite shocking to see him wasted with such a stupid minor character in WWE.- 11 replies
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Reading all this really makes me wish Heyman was back in the equation as Brock's mouthpiece.
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Back then (and even in more recent times) it seemed any sort of feud that is fueled by the heel costing the face a championship of any kind due to outside interference (or vice versa, IE Piper/Rude from the year before) would have had more heat to it. I'd gather a good explanation for that brief run was that Ted wanted to help Kerry out with a good mid-card feud, and stave off the inevitable downward push KVH went through in '91 all the way to his departure. Another thing that bothered me about the whole deal, is that it had to have effected Kerry's already fragile state of mind. Here he is, now working for the company that helped put his father out of business, doing jobs for Kamala on house shows. It's a grim reminder of how insensitive WWE could appear at times to the talent, as compared to now with their more comprehensive rehabilitation programs. It does make me wonder if he'd be alive today if such policies were in place in '92. In just writing that I'd have to say no since there were legal implications (the shame of which ultimately drove him to suicide).
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In looking back at his IC title reign, it was nice of them to do it but his downward spiral on the roster took effect pretty quickly after he lost the belt. What was strange about it was that it seemed like they were teasing a feud with Dibiase next, but once it was done nothing came of it and Ted went on to finish his run with Dusty and begin that long angle with Virgil. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did in the company, especially in the light of all the controversy that was erupting in '91 with the steroid scandal. In Bret's book, he said Kerry as early as the middle of his run with the IC belt, was talking about suicide and "joining his brothers".
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[1995-04-02-WWF-Wrestlemania XI] Shawn Michaels vs Diesel
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in April 1995
Tommy Lee beat down by professional wrestlers would be one of those good karma moments.- 11 replies
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This, basically. I'm glad that Bret and Shawn buried the hatchet with each other, and after watching the Greatest Rivalries program I have little doubt as to the veracity of Shawn's remorse over the whole thing. Mostly because he didn't get very preachy about it (Bret brought up him being born again first, actually), or at least didn't appear to. The knowledge that Bret remained so violently bitter about it until it got the better of him and lead to his stroke had to have been eating away at him, and indeed Vince too. I'm hoping Bret revises his book soon, in light of the recent reconciliation. It was published in 2007, and the final chapters were indicative of that he still had some grudges with Shawn and Hunter. It would be interesting if he put it all to rest that way, and talked about it frankly.
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Possibly the most pettiest thing I've ever seen on television was when HHH berated the poor kid who had the Goldberg poster up on his wall on the first season of Tough Enough. Bill may not have been a "student of the business" and did indeed get his spot rather easily, that's because he was the right man at the right time.
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I know that, but I was more or less referring to Meltzer's logic that Cena single-handedly eliminated that segment of the audience when it's quite clear they still come. It would be interesting if there was a comparison of how many 18-30 year old single males attended shows in the late 90's when the Attitude era was booming and now, same for children and their parents/guardians/whatever. There might be a bit of a drop in the former now, but I'm going to guess not as much.
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The thing that boggles me about this is that there still is an audience that boos Cena, dwindling or not it's still there. And it's not just in places like Miami or Chicago where he was placed directly against hometown favorites.
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What I thought. I know I'm repeating myself here, but I think what's happening in regards to this, is that Cena is the face of the "PG era" and antithesis to the much-revered Attitude era by the "Cena sucks" contingent. It's the price WWE has to pay now for taking such a sharp turn away from the edgier product that was produced a decade or so ago. Whoever it is that ends up taking John's spot won't have that stigma attached likely because that segment of the audience will have dwindled down considerably.
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A lot of conclusions can be drawn from this, of varying degrees of accuracy. Mine is is that the "Cena Sucks" assholes just want to be heard on television.
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[1995-04-02-WWF-Wrestlemania XI] Shawn Michaels vs Diesel
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in April 1995
Watching the Greatest Rivalries program on Netflix right now, and it's interesting how Bret saw this match as a threat to his spot with Shawn stealing the match and headed towards the babyface turn that eventually resulted. Also interesting how he saw it as something that killed Nash's momentum as champion with the audience.- 11 replies
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What proof is there that Cena's not being booed at house shows?
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Part of his charm is that he can take it, too. I can imagine a lot of past franchise guys treating the inevitable backlash against them with some contempt, but Cena doesn't seem to at all.
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I expect it, frankly.
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Looking back, it's terrible. But, I always thought he had the voice for it. It would have been interesting to see him try it without the guise of being "The Million Dollar Man", and just be a straight play-by-play guy.
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I remember feeling, even at the time, that Savage was just wasted here.
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He was in the '88 one, too.
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I think this means you win the thread
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Comments that don't warrant a thread - Part 3
flyonthewall2983 replied to Loss's topic in Megathread archive
You'd think he'd be at least a little hip to be over that sort of thing. Sad. -
Actually he wore purple after blue, then went to pink before going back to the blue in late '93.
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Ugh, brainfart.
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Once someone is turned heel and is wearing baby blue trunks, it's a sign they are on their way out. One I can think of off the top of my head is Don Muraco, I think there are others. I first heard about it on one of Honky Tonk Man's shoots.