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This has always been a mystery to me, what exactly happened at the end of Adonis' WWF run. Obviously he came back and did the match with Piper, only to disappear immediately afterward and ended up in the AWA. I've never heard/read anything definitive on it other than the suggestion the Adorable gimmick was punishment for him gaining weight, only for him to gain even more weight afterward and that was the "irresponsibility" mentioned.

Well there kind of already was, they just won't acknowlege it.

This Becky/Charlotte thing is so similar to the lead up to the Austin/Bret double turn except for the fact that was planned and this is the fans doing it for them.

It looks like Brie was looking at the Riot Squad's corner and not the person she was throwing kicks at, which led to the first one pegging Liv in the jaw. She clearly wasn't looking at her on the second kick since Liv was slumped down on the way to the mat while the kick was still in motion. The ref should get the most heat out of anyone really. He should have stepped in and called it the moment it was clear she was knocked out.

Vampiro's probably the one you could argue the most, but the guy was a big star in the 90s in and out of wrestling. He probably gets hurt by most WON readers only knowing him from his goofy WCW run.

I haven't listened, but I would assume the grossed out wrestler was Dusty considering how mad he was at their relationship.

I feel when it's all said and done for Randy Orton he's going to be the wrestling equivalent to a ballplayer who amassed a lot of stats because they played for a real long time. Someone you'd look at the numbers and be surprised but then you remember they were around for a millon years so of course. Plus it's hard to get behind a guy as an all time great when he gave a shit about 25% of the time at best. Granted, he was usually really good in that 25%, but there's way too much of him not caring to say he's HOF material.

Ruby's face after that shot was pure "Motherfucker...." I wouldn't be surprised if that kick she threw had some extra zip on it as well.

This is interesting, I hadn't heard about any beef between Sarge and Dusty before. It's not surprising since Sarge knew his worth and I can't imagine that would sit well with Dusty.

The Bobby/Lio stuff is weird. Both guys are better suited to be heels, but WWE has them be faces. It seems like they kind of want to recreate the Enzo/Cass dynamic only with better workers.

The Bellas doing a Misawa/Kawada tribute gimmick would be money. Also I hope the next lawyer planning a concussion lawsuit took note of Liv staying in for several minutes and taking a suplex after clearly getting flash KO'ed.

I'd like to thank all the fans who cheered DiBiase's debut match, since the Million Dollar Man skits were my favorite thing in the WWF at the time.

Looks like Joey Janela might be out for a while, he did a dive from the top to the floor and when he landed his leg bent in a way knees aren't supposed to be able to. His schtick isn't my cup of tea, but I admire the dude's hustle in getting his name out there. Hope he doesn't miss too much time.

CMLL goes through long stretches of putting Negro in random nothing-doing mid card matches to try to make them seem like like they matter, so he's not given much to work with most of the time. There's certainly times where he's not going all out, but he can still bring it when the moment calls for it.

That, and if someone votes for one guy in that group it counts as a vote against the others. Also if someone votes for, say Enrique Torres, in the historical group they get counted as a Mexican group voter and it goes against anyone they don't vote for there. I'm sure it wasn't intended to be this way, but the way things are set up make it hard for anyone not in the US/Canada and Japan categories to get voted in due to the much smaller voter base.

One of the many reasons WON HOF talk is so frustrating is that the entire list of Mexican candidates not only deserves to be in, it's kind of a travesty they haven't already been voted in.

I'm all for salacious rumors, but I'm pretty sure Lelani won so that Wendi could win it back at the MTV War to Settle the Score show.

I just wanted to add my two cents about the Race vs Brody stuff. While it's clear Brody was the source for most if not all of it, it seems like there was someone in the AWA who was looking to bury him too by constantly implying he was too chickenshit to show up at their shows. Everything I've ever heard/read about Harley seems to indicate that he would never shy away from a fight, even if it's one he might not have much success in. Plus I've never heard anyone say Brody was any kind of feared shooter either. The only way I could see it going down anywhere close to how it was written would be if Harley just didn't want to deal with the bullshit and stayed away.

Listening to the podcast now, every time I hear your voice it sounds like Sam Elliot and/or Jake Roberts telling me about their trip to Mexico. Also, was it hard to see the action live at Hell in the Cell with the red cage? It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be on TV, but it looked like it would suck live.

Seems odd you would count the AKI wrestlers who were obviously based on IRL ones, but not the WCW Master who was clearly Andre.

Well that's just about peak creepy wrestling fan right there.

Dave told a story about this a few weeks back. When the Bulldogs left WWF briefly he was telling Watts he needs to bring them in. Bill wasn't interested until Joel Watts got tapes of them in Japan and basically badgered his dad into agreeing to bring them in. By the time he called Dave to tell him the news, Dave had to break it to him they already agreed to go back to the WWF.

I think that's more of a WWE problem not being able to write compelling characters than anything else. Most of the workrate guys had better worked matches and shown more personality in other companies before they went to WWE.

You know, of all the interesting what-ifs of 80s wrestling (what if Magnum never got hurt, what if Nikita went to the WWF), my #1 what-if I never see mentioned is what if the non Crockett NWA members would have got together to vote someone else as champion besides Flair? If the NWA continues to have a traveling champion, Fritz doesn't quit the NWA, other territories have the chance to have a title match on the card to combat the WWF expansion (which intially bombed in a lot of cities until they just outlasted the competition), and maybe a more unified NWA would have posed a bigger challenge to the WWF juggernaut. Of course it probably would have only prolonged the inevitable as the changing landscape of cable TV would have made Vince the winner anyway, and getting the various promoters to play nice long enough to mount a challenge would have been like herding cats, but it would have been something interesting to watch them try.

Also HBK/HHH vs Undertaker/Kane is supposed to take place here too. Wonder how the Australians feel that their SUPER SHOW is being used to build an even super-er show? Also now Evolution should be called WWE Please Don't Mention We Won't Be At That Other Show Next Week.