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Lineup for the collection is better than I expected, some people seem surprised with the lack of WCW stuff but I'd bet Bobby would have preferred everyone forget that part of his career anyway.

It seems pretty clear from what's already been made public that WWN overstated their audience to FloSlam and entered their agreement under false pretenses. You can make a claim that Flo should have done more due diligence but I don't think "they should have known wrestling is filled with carny ass carnies" is going to fly in court as a defense.

The company behind several indy groups facing a million dollar lawsuit seems like it would be a big story no matter the slowness of a given news day.

They are probably going to a Collection Playlist of Bobby's WWF stuff instead since they done it for people that have passed away this year. I know, I just hope it isn't a bunch of Prime Time skits and weasel suit matches against the Warrior.

It's hard to determine what actually pops a number (besides Mania) since they keep the numbers close to the vest.

The lying about numbers is one thing, but why would they be shocked that Gabe would be sharing info with WWE when it's been clear they've been BFFs for a while now.

I don't mean this to sound morbid but I was hoping they'd upload a bunch of AWA stuff in memory of Bobby Heenan. It goes against WWE Canon that his best work was not in the company, but they only seem to add AWA stuff if it features a WWF guy anyway.

It really sucks that Bobby got caught in the crossfire of two companies acting like children.

It's making the rounds now that the interview he was doing recently included to him finally admitting to his alcoholism and this experience being the one to finally force him to face the truth. There's probably a million things one could say, but hopefully this was the slap in the face he needed to finally realize his demons and face them head on.

Ive never really got why fans harp on about Ross/Lawler being the greatest ever announce team because for me the best always has been Bobby/Gorilla. A gaming podcast I listen to calls it the "first fuck syndrome". In their context, the first game most people play in a particular genre tends to be their most favorite one of all time. They never had anything to compare it to and everything blew them away. The same thing applies here. Fans who came of age in the Attitude Era or slightly before will think Ross/Lawler is the greatest ever because it was the first one they heard. Not that they weren't great, but there's always going to be that certain aspect of adulation for one's "first time".

Apparently Jinder's promo on Nakamura didn't make the cut to WWE's YouTube page. It was something to hear the crowd chanting "that's too far" at the foreign heel cutting a racist promo at the foreign babyface.

The PWO Barbershop is a thing that I never thought about before, but definitely needs to exist now.

True. Also Hayes is pretty much the textbook definition of someone who should Never Tweet.

Apparently Cornette had old charges from back in the territory days where he and the MX had to fight their way out of a couple arenas, and since he's already disinclined to want to travel the new security procedures sealed the deal.

Probably not a good look for someone with power in WWE to be tweeting out stuff making it look like the ROH champ will be appearing on one of their shows. I mean we all know it isn't happening, but this is the same company that put guys on ice for months to avoid any appearance of contract tampering. Now you have one of the top non-McMahon people in the company basically offering their top guy a spot on a houseshow.

There was a thread here somewhere about times wrestling made you tear up, and hearing Bobby break a little saying "I wish Monsoon was here" in his HOF speech is my #1 no question. Also anyone else remember the time he got thrown by the neck across the ring by Ken Patera? That blew my mind as a kid and now looking back at it knowing his neck problems that was an absolutely crazy thing to risk doing.

I figure if they are going to put the effort to bring back a classic PPV name, it's at least going to be a Network Special. I mean, if they don't do that much what's the point?

The Twitter account for the Greensboro Coliseum just announced WWE would be bringing back Starrcade on 11/25. How about that.

On one hand, it will be good to have Thunder available since some angles were self contained, but god did that show fall off the cliff in record time.

Maybe they did, but they still flew in the WWE women to do the staredown, and there's no way that Vince wouldn't have known about that. I know NXT is Hunter's baby and all, but I don't think he'd be stupid enough to do all this work without approval.

That seems odd that they would bring her in to the MYC tapings, bring in WWE main roster talent, and fly Ronda in for the finals all without Vince's knowledge. Like, I could see maybe if the negotiations fell through (which why would they, she doesn't exactly have a jam packed schedule), but to say they aren't in negotiations seems demonstrably false.

He said the headbutt was real, was disappointed Vince would do that but realizes he probably has no idea who Shibata is let alone what happened to him. He also said that the blood was most likely from a pre bladed cut that Vince sealed prior to coming out to create the illusion that he was busted open by it. So in summation: Headbutt= real Blood= from prior cut not directly from the headbutt Vince = dumb to be doing this when someone almost died from a shoot headbutt

What Dave actually said is the headbutt was real but the intention was not to be so hard to draw blood hardway. Vince did the prep beforehand and Owens just had to hit him hard enough to break the nu-skin (which is still harder than a 70 something year old man should be hit in head). I don't mean to pull a "well actually" on Johnny, but considering we have a megathread commenting on people who have largely based their dislike of Dave on misquotes I felt it was necessary to clarify that.

Going back to being bland might be a step up from current "clearly playing out the string until his contract ends" Dolph.

That is all true, but Vince did more to put KO over in that angle than Steph has done her entire run as an authority figure.