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So if they are still going to do HHH vs Seth at some point, what good will it do when Seth has been booked as a bigger geek as champ than Rey was?

It's weird that their response so far has been to copy the Joseph Park angle with Kane.

Another record low rating. This might push Vince into all out panic mode soon.

The big difference is that LU is a TV show that happens to be about wrestling, and does it well. RAW most weeks is a wrestling program trying to be like a TV show and failing. I like Kane the Happy Director a lot, but when he got put in the ambulance and came out as the demon (with smoke and light effects), that was some straight up Shockmaster level bad.

I started watching NXT when it switched from a "let's humiliate the guy the fans want" contest to an actual weekly wrestling show. Bo was great there, but clearly the gimmick wasn't going to work on the main roster and it didn't on a major scale. I just hate it when it seems like guys aren't even given the chance to succeed when they get these boat anchor gimmicks.

There were rumblings not too long ago that Bo was getting repackaged, and I hope that didn't fall victim to the dreaded PLANS CHANGE maneuver. I'm not saying he's main event material but the guy deserves something better than the garbage gimmick he was stuck with right out of the gates.

Loved the debut segment, but after watching Kana matches to get familiar with her it was weird seeing her come out in the Steph Collection power suit. Props to Dana and Emma for their "we done fucked up" faces being the cherry on top of the awesomeness. It seems like the new plan is to have Bayley/Dana/Emma/Asuka as the new top four women while Eva builds up her heel cred and hopefully works her way up to not being completely terrible.

Figured I'd bring this back from the dead since I was reminded of this thread looking at WWE's YouTube page. I get wanting to have a nickname/descriptive phrase for everyone that you can put on a shirt or some other merch, but it's hilarious to see them being referred to as such instead of their names. What do i mean? Well instead of calling him Dean Ambrose, every mention has to say The Lunatic Fringe instead. Paige becomes The Diva of Tomorrow, Rusev is the Bulgarian Brute, even Nattie becomes (and I swear this is actually how she was named) The Hart Dungeon Graduate. I can only imagine how the near pathological fear of using names comes off to non-fans.

It's fine for one angle/program. When the whole division is booked like that you might as well watch Heathers instead.

Also my previous post I wasn't condoning the family starting the gofundme, I was more relieved it wasn't some crazy Snuka truthers.

Not to mention his doctor mentioned (before the grand jury came back) that he should be fine after he heals from surgery, at least as fine as a 72 year old former wrestler can be. Dave even mentioned the whole deal about being wheelchaired in to court was more of a sympathy ploy than anything else.

It's weird. Even though I think that he's full of it on a lot of stuff that he says, I still like listening to him, whereas with other people (Russo) I just can't bear it. I went to one of the Bischoff/Bruce Pritchard debate/dual interview things, and I came away from it thinking that he's aged the best of him, Heyman, Cornette, and Russo, in the sense that while he is a carny, and kinda full of shit, he seems the most well-adjusted and easy to listen to. He's presumably got fuck you money, so he kinda does stuff like this, and says what he feels like saying, and just does his own thing. He's mad smarmy, but I still have to respect the game. That's the thing about Eric, you immediately want to discount everything he says because he sounds like such a smarmy douche saying it.

Well at least it's the family behind it and not some deranged Benoit-truther type fan.

Seems like their old hosting company shat the bed on them and that was apparently the trigger for them to go ahead and jump forward on their relaunch plans.

The problem goes back to multiple former WWE writers stating that when it came to the women, their character development began and ended at "all women hate each other". I'm not going to pretend it's the main issue with the division, but you're never going to get women's wrestling seen anywhere at the level it should be if deep down they're all just a bunch of high school girls fighting over who gets to be queen bee.

Even women who don't dress as provocative as the ones mentioned have issues, as last night saw Brie working in pants cut so low she had plumber's crack for half the match. Bryan and Dave were going on and on how Bayley has something special and WWE can't mess it up. Considering her character is being the nice girl, she seems more doomed than anyone coming out of NXT since the writing team doesn't seem to be able to do any storyline for women other than "nasty bitches who hate each other".

It was somewhat surreal - not because of the stories that we have already heard 100 times - but because it was a WWE product. Bischoff is always a good interview, though. Eric's been pretty vocal about WWE's version of history being bullshit so I'm kind of surprised they picked him.

It seems like the social media teams published their Raw teases as scheduled and no one remembered to tell them Sting was off the show. Also we need to be talking more about the greatness that is Xavier Woods and him playing Rusev's them on the trombone last night.

I can't believe I have interest in a Kane feud in 2015, but I love how you don't know if he's supposed to be crazy or just fucking with Seth.

Anyone else think it was kind of surprising ROH took Kenny King back after he fucked them right after ANX won the title? I know it's the wrestling business but this isn't like Vince taking a guy back he had issues with because it can make him money,

I'd venture a guess that Sting bruised/broke ribs either on the powerbomb to the corner, or some point prior and that was just the point of no return. Bad ribs hurt like a motherfucker and the way he just folded gave the impression he couldn't catch his breath.

Here's the women on the 2K16 roster: Emma Eva Marie Paige Summer Rae Tamina Brie Bella Nikki Bella Alicia Fox Cameron Layla Naomi Natayla Stephanie McMahon (also "McMahon-Helmsley" version) Not to mention almost everyone who's on NXT TV regularly is in the game as well.

Well it's a personal taste thing for sure, but there's a pretty big crossover between gamers and wrestling fans. I wouldn't suggest not having them is going to crash game sales or anything, but a lot of people like fantasy booking shows the way they want and this is going to be missing a key component. I'm sure you'll be able to create a reasonable recreation of them as CAWs, but it just comes off like it wasn't any concern of WWE to make sure they were included in a game that is boasting the biggest roster in history.

Also it's not a matter of them debuting too late to be included, since a fan asked Sasha on Twitter if she was scanned in to the game and she said she had.

This is pretty telling, 2K just announced that Becky, Sasha, Charlotte, and Bayley not only didn't make the cut for WWE2K16 they didn't even make it in as DLC. That's a pretty big slap in the face, and pretty clear indication how seriously they take the "revolution".