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Nice to see just who WWE thinks the stars are in that Rumble commercial.

Wow. I know I want some good old fashioned suicides in my wrestling PPVs.

Jeez, it's like people join this board just to prove me wrong.

I got what he meant by saying HHH jobs to much, but the "too giving" part confused me too.

It looks good on paper, but besides HIAC the card got zero promotion so why should the fans give a shit about this show when WWE couldn't make it more apparent that they don't.

The only match that's got any promotion is Taker/Orton and even there WWE has conditioned fans to only pop for the Stupidly Dangerous Bump ™ in every HIAC.

Not to mention SK's habit of tossing in "did ya know" tidbits in his writing that not only end up being reliably wrong, but get turned into "fact" by people who read his writings as Gospel.

Taken from one of those posts on WO that's just a shill for some internet radio show: Wow, I never heard anyone say HHH jobs too much before. What happened betweeen him and Muta, anyone know the story there? Much like the HHH comment, the Sting remark is the polar opposite of what most people's opinons are.

Considering the WWF was running up to three different touring groups at a time, I would think that would play a role on why Hogan didn't face certain people. I'm sure he vetoed programs against people, but Hogan's all about making money and I don't think he'd veto a program he thinks could make some money. That's why he wanted to have more than one match with Shawn. Paul himself said the arm/neck injury that ended up causing his retirement happened during the Hogan program and it ended up as bad as it was because he was afraid to take the time off to get it treated during such a hot feud. I'd wager that played a role in things ending when they did as much as any Hogan egoness did. Don't get me wrong, Hogan certainly deserves most if not all of the shit he gets from smart fans, but there were other forces in the universe that caused things to play out the way they did.

I think the big knock on Hogan is that he did just enough to not embarrass himself in the ring, but even he could have done more in a lot of the matches he was in. Look at WM 3, Hogan had to pretty much wrestle himself since Andre could barely move at that point. It's actually an amazing display from a guy who most consider one of the worst workers of all time. He's no Ric Flair, but he goes out there and bumps probably more than he did for anyone else in the 80s and salvages something watchable out of what had no right getting out of the negative star range. When you look at it, Hogan had a similar problem to what Taker had in the 90s: Both guys spent their prime years matched up against some of the most untalented lumps of all time.

Val and Vis could be a good team if WWE gave a shit about tag wrestling. I know I'm pretty much alone on this but I think Vis is an excellent worker for a guy hovering around 500 pounds. It's a shame he's really never been given a serious gimmick to go with his size and ability.

Says the guy who thinks Vince is a creative genius.....

Wow, savagerulz must work for WWE. I've never seen anyone make such a spirited attempt at turd-polishing.

History has shown the one thing Vince has talent for is taking advantage of his competitor's stupidness.

You lost me there.

There are few things sadder than watching the IC title go from being held by the most over non-Hogan worker (the 80s) to an important stepping stone for future world champs (in the 90s) to something ignored and barely defended on TV anymore today.

Luger was one of the hottest properties around during the time he left the Horsemen and started chasing Flair.

That's why I think it's unfair when a new guy starts in WWE and people immediately brand them a shitty wrestler. All the new guys are instructed to work and speak the exact same (crappy) way and if that wasn't bad enough, most get stuck with a dead end gimmick right out of the box that kills any heat they might get in spite of the style they're forced to work. What's funny is they don't work WWE style in OVW. Guys like Lashley, the Dicks, the Heart Throbs, Ken Kennedy, all had much better matches in OVW than I've seen any of them do on WWE TV yet.

Stumbled is the key word. If WCW hadn't handed him Austin on a silver platter with a bow, I think WCW might have been the company that survived and WWE would be talked about like WCW is now. It just seems that when Vince came back in 1994, it's been one bad idea after another with seemingly no one willing to say it to his face.

I think it started before HHH. Ever since the trial it seems like he's been more and more separated from the real world and his product by an ever growing parade of ass kissers and yes men.

I thought Benoit's contract wasn't up till March...

That's almost Mushnick-ian to tie every wrestling death to drugs. What if he would have got hit by a bus? Would Keller hint that he could have dodged it but his reaction time was slowed by his past drug use?

Still, that doesn't have anything to do with his past drug problems does it?

I thought it was determined Candido died from an infection from his broken leg?

Yeah, that's a complete low blow considering Candido's death wasn't even drug related. I kinda get his comments about Hayes, since he was clearly a sockpuppet for Vince in that promo in terms of trying to get people to forget Flair's troubles. In all it's just more reason why birds should be offended if their owners line their cages with the Torch.