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  1. FLIK
    ...............sooooo, wtf is the Ayn Rand thread?
  2. FLIK
    Heh, what do you wanna know? Random background info for this match atleast. It's a follow up to the OZ/Fukuoka vs Hotta/Takako match from December 92 http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?showtopic=14007 AJW = Largest & #1 joshi promotion at the time. Hotta = Upper mid carder in AJW, spent most of 92 doing diddly squat but the company decided to give her another push in the latter part of the year. Pretty polarizing figure due to the style she works (very stiff), some like her, some think she's the worst ever. I fall somewhear in between, she has her flaws but has been in a ton of great matches over the years. Takako = Mid carder at the time in AJW. Was mostly known as as a technical wrestler up until this point. Spent most of 92 having competitve matches with anyone on her level and getting the dog crap kicked out of her by anyone above her level. Only started developing her trademark more agressive, tougher, bitchy side in very late 92/early 93. Takako & Hotta as a team, not regular partners at the time but they'd become that way as 93 went on. This was very early on in the interpromotional feud so they were sent off to JWP as scraficial lambs pretty much. 2 girls with just enough of a name that you buy them going toe to toe with the top girls from the other promotion but not enough of a name that it's really a big deal they lost. JWP = The distant #2 women's promotion at the time. The WCW to AJW's WWF. Kansai = Ace of the promotion, had just been crowned the companies first singles champion a few months earlier. Ozaki = #3 on the JWP pecking order behind Kansai & Devil Masami. Wasn't full on heel back then in the traditional way we think but was close. Went full heel a few years later and is one of the best ever. 1/2 of the JWP tag champions with Cuty Suzuki at the time, wasn't a reg partner of Kansai and infact was a big rival of hers but they'd team up to fight for the honor of the company. 20 years later all 4 are still active to varying degrees. Ozaki runs her own promotion now called OZ Academy which Kansai and Takako work for, they run about 1 to 3 shows per month and ocasionally take outside bookings. Hotta freelances around but mainly works for the smaller Reina promotion though I think she's out injured at the moment.
  3. FLIK
    Never seen oddly enough. I've seen the March 92 match that set this up with the famous "Matsunaga gets his head set on fire" spot which I actually liked as a match even aside from the crazy ending, i've seen their FMW fire match from a few years later which isn't the greatest but is cool as a spectacle and i've seen their Flaming Barbed Wire Coffin match from BJW which I liked too but yup, have not seen this one.
  4. FLIK
    Huh?? Peachmachine did a podcast years ago with Ed in San Antonio. He also goes to F4W conventions. He was a wrestler in Gateway Championship Wrestling the home promotion of Haze, Delirous and Evan Bourne. He had an infamous match in IWA-MS too. In addition to that he is a nutritionist. He had a bunch of Wrestlers on his books Haze, Erik Stevens, Nigel G, Evan Bourne and even Colt Cabana (who dropped out.) Basically he invented an all allmond diet that got you lean as all fuck. I mean new levels of lean. He had a website (dead) and even shirts to promote it under the brand Team Viggity. Wrestlers would wear the shirts and reference the team on radio shows & stuff. Not saying that Peach's work caused it just that seems to be a turning point of her being healthy to the worrying shape she is in how. I never followed those guys very close so I don't recall all the details but it def wasn't literally ALL almonds. It did heavily involve them though yeah, the gist I think involved eating a bunch of them every few hours for energy or something like that.
  5. FLIK
    .....so anyone know what title they were fighting for? I wouldn't call this the MOTY up to this point but everything else Loss said I pretty much agree with, not much I can add but this def lived up to the hype. Weird things amuse me sometimes, I got a big kick out of the fact that I immediatly knee Dandy must be the technico because he had Atlantis cornering him Didn't think there were that many unique/rarely seen holds in the match but yeah, I get what you're saying. Dandy's leg bridge pin i'd actually never seen before, really cool. The split hold i've seen a bunch, lotta guys in old British wrestling did a variation using the legs to force the split instead of the arms, a few years back guys like Quack & Cabana who're big fans of WoS stole it and were using it a lot. Never caught on big outside of that click though. I've seen Santo vs Casas but it was so long ago that I don't remember anything about it, will have to re-watch that one sometime soon. The match that came to mind for me as I was watching this was actually Jaguar Yokota vs Pantera Surena from 5/12/1985 which is one of my fav matches ever that sadly not many people know/talk about. It's an AJW match for the 3WA title but it takes place in Mexico and is wrestled 2/3 falls. Goes 35 mins and is wrestled in a simiar "big title match style" so anyone that enjoyed Casas/Dandy would love this too I think. [shill] it's avaialable for download on my match site, points at sig [/shill]
  6. FLIK
    Don't know which date is correct but i'm assuming this is the same match Ditch has labled as 7/5 on his site. Anyways, there's a moment in this whear Fuchi & Kikuchi are frozen in time having a staring contest. Kikuchi is on his knees, looking up like he wants to kill him while the fans chant his name, Fuchi is blankly staring back like "well come on and try if you want". Kikuchi stands up and then Fuchi just calmy walks over and punches him in the face. Geatest thing ever...... Awww, wish you hadn't mentioned 4/18 was part of an elim match. Now i'm disapointed I didn't get to see the whole thing. Irregardless, I liked this match more then 4/18 which was also really good. Can Am match is 5/22 right? I re-watched that one just now for comparisons sake. Both are great, woldn't call either 5* or anything close, but both are great. I liked this more then the Can Am match though. This had a cooler story and was more engaging. Only thing Can Am match has in it's favour to me is that it took place infront of one of the most insane crowds ever. Kobashi & Kikuchi could have stood in the middle of the ring and took a deep breath and those fans would have lost their shit & jumped for joy. 1 other random thought, having watched a bunch of 92 All Japan over the past couple days and having not really seen much of him this early in his career before, I couldn't help thinking over and over that "boy, young Kobashi is kind of a dork". Don't know why, kinda funny.
  7. FLIK
    Side rant, between looking on torrent sites and searching for Suprstars 8/26 on youtube took me forever to find a decent VQ copy of that show as weirdly WWE's official channel upload of the freakin show (which I didn't know they had) is not one of the 1st things that pops up. Was ready to give up when I accidently stumbled across a link to WWE's page from someone elses upload after I typed in McIntyre Masters. Also, holy shit there's a lot of fuckin Dreak McIntyre vs Chris Masters matches out thear. Any besides 8/26 I need to bother watching?
  8. FLIK
    Yeah i'm with Loss, barring an injury similar to Edge whear it's so bad that it'd be pure insanity to do anything but quit immediatly I don't think he'd just quietly fade away with nothing being made of it. They give him enough time off that he can heal up enough to fight through 1 or 2 matches per year atleast.
  9. FLIK
    Was just thinking about this the other day. Heard about the guy for years but I don't think i've ever seen an Eric Embry match. Atleast 50% sure I may never have even seen a picture of him. I've got the DVDVR World Class set so that'll change eventually when I stop being lazy and finish it though. For 2 guys who've feuded literally for an eternity I think i've seen maybe 2 Lawler vs Dundee matches in my life. Haven't watched HBK/Taker II, HHH/Taker mania this year, hardly any WWE since maybe 08 or 09 actually. Couldn't even tell you what the Usos look like for example. I plan on watching every ROH show eventually, in order but i'm still making my way through 2005 and haven't even gotten to Joe/Kobashi yet. I've only ever seen a few handfulls of PWG shows. Anything good from any other pimped indy out thear (IWAs, Chikara, CZW, Evolve, etc) I haven't really seen past 2007-2008. Except for BJW, Joshi & Battlarts, very little Japan stuff from the last 2-3 years or so, especially if it happened in Z1, NOAH, DG, New Japan or All Japan. I'm sure i'd enjoy a lot of it, don't misunderstand but there's so much out thear that things just fall by the wayside. I'm like a year behind on AAA, no current CMLL except for a few matches from Mistico's heel turn in forever and ever and ever either. Tons and tons of other shit but that's what leaps to mind.
  10. FLIK
    So I watched this after watching the 4/19 match with these same teams. Huge huge disapointment in comparison. 4/19 had Fuchi finding 8 million diffrent ways to choke mother fuckers and hitting people with chairs and Jumbo smacking people in the face a lot and Kobashi getting droped on a table. It had a way better "lets break Kobashi's leg" section and a really good "let's break Ogawa's leg and punk him out in other amusing ways as revenge section". It had hatred and emotion, felt like an epic, important match between 2 teams going to war with a bat shit crowd going nuts for everything. This had none of those things, just a random pedestrian match, ok stuff but nothing to really stand out in any way. The only 2 things that were memorable to me were 1) Fuchi droping Kobashi back first on the edge of the apron in a really awkward painful looking way that I re-wound like 4 times. If anyone else had done it i'd think they botched the move but I completely buy that Fuchi would do that just to be a dick. And 2) the anouncers hilarious call of Jumbo atempting an STF as if there was any doubt as to whether he'd get it on all the way "step over toe hold...with?...with?....WITH FACELOCK!!!!!"
  11. FLIK
    Well I meant more as a regular move. Others used it sure but more as a once in a blue moon type thing, not something that you'd really associate with anyone in the promotion besides Gannoske. Compare with Onita's powerbomb which damn near the entire roster aped on the the reg.
  12. FLIK
    It's Mr. Gannosuke's move, no one else really used it in FMW. Yuko Mikyamoto (Gannosuke student) inherited it from him. Thunder Fire Powerbomb is the one more associated with FMW in general. Started by Onita and then pretty much everyone took it from him. I know it's been called both but of the 2, I gotta say, Steiner Screw Driver is the much cooler name.
  13. FLIK
    Jumbo, Fuchi, Ogawa vs Kobashi, Kawada, Misawa 4/19/92 Not on the set. Goes 35, draged a little by the end and little annoyed that for a match with 2 longish sections of guys getting their knees busted up neither one meant anything in the grand scheme of things. Minor complaints though as otherwise I thougt this was an excelent match. Came away thinking "boy, Masa Fuchi is really the best guy involved in this" and really wanting to see just him & Ogawa as a tag team, then to my pleaseant surprise I checked Ditch's site and saw that there are infact a buncha Fuchi/Ogawa tag matches out thear so i'll check those out sometime soon.
  14. FLIK
    Haven't heard eiter of those stories, anyone have details? Also someone point me in the direction of a really good Chris Masters match, i've watched like 10 current WWE shows in the past few years and only remember him during his really shitty initial run.
  15. FLIK
    Eh, match placement doesn't matter that much, I mean yeah if it was put randomly mid show or opener or something like that maybe but otherwise no. So long as it's treated as something important going into and during the show and it delievers like it's billed, something else coming after it won't hurt it at all. Kyoko/Hokuto from the same show you brought up was only the 4th match on the show and really, it was great but not THAT great, in the grand scheme of things, just a match, Bull/Aja was for sure a bigger deal coming out of the show. Hokuto/Kandori I was 2nd from the top at the 1st Dreamslam, Kudo/Aja 3WA singles and the OZ/Kansai vs Toyota/Yamada 3WA tag blow off took a backseat to Hokuto/Kandori II at the big December 93 show. When people talk about Big Egg in 94 it's rarely the main event they remember off that show. Kansai/Aja title change in 95 was 2nd from the top. Uhhh...pulling more random shit out my ass, Rock/Hogan 3rd from the top at Mania 18, Ric Flair retirement match vs Michaels 5TH from the top at Mania 24. Anyways, yeah, point being if something's great and or special it doesn't matter if it's not the main event. Dream Rush was the biggest show the company had ever tried to run up to that point. If Aja/Bull mained some other random show earlier in the year would it really have been more fondly remembered then it is? Yeah they'd started the interpromotional era a few months earlier but this was the first show whear it all really came together with the 3 other groups, FMW, LLPW & JWP all being in the house at the same time. The moment whear it went from, OK, we're doing a few interpromotional matches to full on World War. Felt like the right place to put the nail in the coffin of the previous era. And slowly fading from one into the other works better then having to do it abruptly and start fresh.
  16. FLIK
    I liked this more then both of you. Matches built around solid, very basic traditional matwork has always been something i've enjoyed, atleast in small doses and when i'm in a certain mood. It sure as hell isn't ****1/2, not something i'd actually say is worthy of being on a set like this either, maybe around *** if you want to toss around snowflakes but either way, I enjoyed it well enough. They could have done more but I wasn't bored or disapointed by what they did do. Paraphrasing JR early on "these 2 are very familiar with each other, Brad's wrestled him over in Japan before" 20 seconds later from Ratchman "Brad has no clue what he's in store for here" Aside from that bit of goofiness, Rachtmann was pretty damn awesome on commentary actually. Would have dug having him around as a regular. Also, really weird seeing both guys come out to no music.
  17. FLIK
    So, anyone seen the Paul London & Tracey Smothers road trip shoot? Awesome as it looks like it'd be on paper? Was listening to this earlier today. The way Meltzer explained it, it sorta ALMOST kinda made sense. The reason being that this is even an issue is that if the WWE wants to keep Cena as the top babyface in the company for a long time to come and get him over with the male audiance, having him face someone who he's guaranteed to get booed out of the building against in the main event of the biggest show the company is likely to have had in many years probably isn't the best idea long term.
  18. FLIK
    Be interested to know who your pick for team of the year in 92 is. I know Doc & Gordy won it in the Observer but I think Toyota & Yamada are more deserving even ignoring the great booking and only focusing on bell to bell.
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    Not that it doesn't make for a good story but tag parters as friendly rivals was a staple of AJW booking forever pretty much. With Toyota & Yamada it got taken to another level since Toyota freaked and wanted the hair match but yeah, almost every long time team of any significance in the companies history got booked in atleast a couple singles vs each other while they were still a regular team and you'd always see the partners go full force. Heck, with Aja & Bison they worked stiffer against each other then they did almost anyone else.
  20. FLIK
    Naw, gotta disagree. Not that switching it in April wouldn't have worked but looking back in hindsight it really came at the perfect moment. I dunno how to really put it properly but for me, everything about the timing of Dream Rush just felt right. That it came after they'd squashed the beef just helped things feel like more of a natural passing of the torch.
  21. FLIK
    Really? Besides the rhino helmet stories (hilarity), I didn't find it all that interesting. He didn't really shit on anybody except Matt Hardy and didn't reveal anything that wasn't well known. It was cool how he owned up to the Mike Bell thing though. Just finished watching it, there were some cool stories in thear but you had to wade through a ton of pure shit to get to them. I've seen a couple youshoots now, on paper it's a great concept but the execution is just embarisingly bad and this may be the worst example of it yet. By the 1/3 mark I was either ff or muting all the questions and only listning to the answers, just painful painful, unentertaining, stuff to sit through. I doubt it does but really wish that Saturn vs Eddie Gilbert 45 min draw he talked about from Memphis existed on tape somewhear.
  22. FLIK
    That's a fair description of Toyota in general guess. She was in too many great matches to deny she's one of the best however even if she wasn't always #1. She still has way more moments of that were great atleast in part because of her efforts rather then in spite of them. Hell, thinkng about it, longevity and the depth of her ******* resume may be what she has most going for her. Heh, I think I know what you're talking about here but i'd still be interested to hear you elaborate.
  23. FLIK
    Quebrada's a good guide post but as a rule when it came to joshi I think he tended to slightly overrate "golden era" stuff and highly underrate more modern (late 90's - 2000's on) things so I always keep that in mind when looking at his ratings. Well no but that's the fun of it. Within the context of the promotion it furthers a few running themes that were going on througout the year like Takako playing whiping girl to anyone above her level but that's not something that is really going to be apparent from just what's on the yearbook set. As a standalone match it's still really enjoyable just for the mayhem. Sure there's better things that could have been put in it's place (didn't make my top 20, not sure i'd have it top 30) but I still think it's cool that this made it on.
  24. FLIK
    AJW was really great about this too. Never a guarantee of who would eat the pin even if it was a star/midcarder vs star/star match. The standard lowest dude on the totem pole always does the job booking gets boring after a while.
  25. FLIK
    Don't really remember what I thought at first, I found out relatively late, I think reading the news on the DVD boards actually. Probably went something along the lines of Benoit is dead? Sad, usual wrestler death I guess ---> Whole family dead? Car accident maybe? ----> All killed/what really happened. Oh shit, don't know what to think. At which point I pretty much stoped reading any msg board or news post about it except for what Meltzer wrote in the Observer.
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