Coffey

Good debut for Owens, in my opinion.

Thanks for the thread, Goodhelmet. What makes you think it could be a disaster? I'm really excited for this show tonight! I expect Sami Zayn Vs. Adrian Neville to be really good. I'm excited for the Kevin Owens debut. Charlotte Vs. Sasha could be pretty decent too.

I'm certainly more excited for the NXT show than I am for TLC on Sunday, that's for sure.

Curious if there is going to be a live thread for NXT Takeover: R Evolution tonight?

Yeah, I just watched it the other day. I commented on it in the ROH thread some. I like Briscoe too.

I want to see a feud. A feud between two wrestlers. That builds up & is heated. A good guy against a bad guy. The good guy wanting revenge. The bad guy getting his comeuppance. Culminating in a bloody cage match with a decisive babyface win. In 2014, now almost 2015, is there a chance that can even happen anymore? I don't think there is in WWE. Maybe I should just go back & re-watch cage matches from yesteryear.

Me too. He was hilarious. And right. These people are dumbfucks. This is right out of my WCW thread. WWE lately seems like they have been doing a lot of things that seem very similar to decisions that late WCW made. I think a lot of it is because they don't really care, since there's not any competition. They can just spin their wheels & continue to make money.

Dave Meltzer going off about Charlotte losing on RAW, during the Wrestling Observer Radio show, had me cracking up. NXT Women's Champion. A few days before the NXT PPV on the WWE Network. Daughter of Ric Flair. In the Carolinas. Loses in 2:29.

This appears to be the card for Wrestle Kingdom: Due to a combination of injuries and time constraints, this is the Tokyo Dome lineup for 1/4: New Japan Rumble - No names were announced. This is likely a preshow match to get everyone on the card Kyle O'Reilly & Bobby Fish defend the IWGP jr. tag titles against Alex Shelley & Kushida, The Young Bucks and Rocky Romero & Alex Koslov Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima & Tomoaki Honma vs. Yujiro Takahashi & Bad Luck Fale & Jeff Jarrett Toru Yano & mystery partner vs. two members of Suzuki-gun Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Minoru Suzuki in UWF rules Tomohiro Ishii vs. Togi Makabe for the Never Open weight title Ryusuke Taguchi vs. Kenny Omega for the IWGP jr. title Doc Gallows & Karl Anderson vs. Hirooki Goto & Katsuyori Shibata for the IWGP tag team titles A.J. Styles vs. Tetsuya Naito Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Kota Ibushi for the IC title Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada for the IWGP heavyweight title ****************** Jr. Tag, Ishii/Makabe, Styles/Naito, Nakamura/Ibushi & Tanahashi/Okada all look good to me. With JR on PBP. Should be fun.

Is it possible, they have John Cena lose to Seth Rollins & lose his #1 Contendership, then he brings back The Authority to get it back to set-up Brock Lesnar Vs. John Cena for the WWE World Heavyweight Title anyway? Then have WWE Champ John Cena Vs. Roman Reigns (Rumble winner) for the belt at 'Mania. Don't want the crowd to turn on Reigns? Put him against Cena.

...but he does a FLIP on a SPEAR! There's nothing more Indy than that!!

Who comes up with the names for these categories? "LOL moment of the year?" "OMG moment of the year?" Seriously? It's super awkward to hear people verbally annunciate those acronyms. "el oh el moment of the year!" - Lilian Garcia.

What a silly argument.

Yeah, that seemed really counter productive to me. She seemed like a deer in headlights. Didn't really get to do anything to shine. Came out as NXT champ to hype the NXT PPV on Thursday. Then jobbed to Natalya in a nothing match. Just...I don't know. Doesn't make a lick of sense.

I popped for a spot in the title match main event, actually: Jay Briscoe is a great promo. I didn't think the show was great but it wasn't offensive. Just kind of forgettable for the most part. Felt more like a TV show than a PPV.

The trading stiff shots in the center of the ring trope will test your patience & be prepared to see it in pretty much every other match. The other thing that grates my nerves lately, which has been mentioned here a couple different times, is the use of one-counts late into a match. Call it "fighting spirit" or whatever you want, it's straight up no-selling to me & completely takes me out of a match. Thankfully, it's not used to the degree the trading blows is. Also, the majority of the undercard, so the first half of each show or so, are just awful. There's a lot of guys that get a lot of TV time that are the drizzling shits. Captain New Japan, Sakuraba, Lance Archer, Iizuka, Yano, Takahashi, Taichi... your mileage may vary.

I love Dr. Death & the more I watch, the more I enjoy him. Talked with Loss some about him on Twitter & he recommended the '96 Carnival match with Taue, so I need to watch that. Posting here so I remember. He doesn't impress me too much in the States but his Japan is SO strong. Just complete embodiment of what I love about Pro-Wrestling. Early-mid 90's AJPW is exactly what appeals to me. It really amazes me how much stamina some of the bigger guys seem to have too. It's not like guys like Big Van Vader, Steve Williams, Stan Hansen, etc. were small dudes! Just crazy.

I feel like this whole thing is just going to get fans of both WWE & UFC at each other's throats. I'm sure WWE will be right there doing goading of their own as well because they have certainly shown a history of being petty. If C.M. Punk loses, WWE (or people within WWE) will say that he's a has-been, a joke, took his ball & left, etc. If C.M. Punk wins, WWE will say he had to go to UFC because he couldn't cut in the WWE, or whatever. So in that regard, it'll be a no win situation. I'm not sure if UFC will ever say anything or not, I guess Joe Rogan might. I'm curious, admittedly, of if he's any good or not...but I don't foresee good things. Who knows how long it'll be until his fight though..."2015" could mean next December against a nobody. It will probably be best to attempt getting dragged into any sort of internet conversation about WWE Vs. UFC, pro-wrestling Vs. MMA, Punk as a fighter or wrestler, etc. I imagine it'll be ugly on both sides. Good for Punk though. It sounds like something that he has wanted to do for awhile & I hope he gets his money. I'm sure Dana White will get his too, off the buzz that will undoubtedly follow this.

This is insane to me but, meh, more power to him.

The first one that came to my mind was 1-2-3 Kid beating Razor Ramon.

Shibata (35) & Ishii (38) could both be moved up. Nakamura (34) is REAL close too. They're definitely not young anymore. Okada is only 27. Naito (32) looked to be on his way before he got hurt & I think they got cold feet about it. Of course, Minoru Suzuki is 46 & he can still go, so age doesn't always mean too much anyway. A couple new, young fresh faces that started building up their résumés certainly wouldn't hurt. They can't just keep running Tanahashi Vs. Okada.

I've read a lot of people say a lot of things about C.M. Punk. "Fake" is a new one to me though.

I use my television as my computer monitor & never watch TV. Anything I want to watch, including live sports, I can watch online. There's also the added bonus of not having to sit through ad breaks or having to pay for the channels you don't want because that's the only way to get the ones in the package that you do want. Yes, I would like TNT and ESPN so I can watch NBA...no, I don't want five Jesus channels that come with it for an additional $7/mo. Cable Companies will fuck you silly. Oh the best was when I had a cable package - internet, phone & TV. I called to address an issue and her solution was to reset the modem...no wait don't do...*dial tone* You know, cause resetting the modem also shuts off my phone. Fun times. Because no one is bright enough to have reset their modem as the jump before ever calling, right? "DID'JA TRY PLUGGIN' IT IN!?" I have both Netflix & WWE Network. I'm doing good on having something to watch if I want.

If that's how they feel, then the Chamber should not be in-between Rumble & 'Mania, in my opinion.

No, because I can't really be offended, certainly not by a television program. I would however stop watching if it got to the point where I thought it sucked so bad it wasn't worth the time investment. I stopped watching ROH for a few years & gave up completely on TNA in example.