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Because WWE on cable TV is free. That's why. I also grew up on it and have followed it for the better part of twenty years. I don't know, it's weird. As a company, they aren't loyal to me but as a fan, I feel loyal to them, I guess. Plus there's an abundance of it. They have a big name, so everyone equates them to wrestling. It's like, when wrestling is good, WWE is good. It's mainstream and people are talking about Hulk Hogan, Mr. T, etc. or The Rock, Steve Austin, etc. When it bad? "It's just wrestling." or "You still watch that?"

I know Raw didn't hold my interest. WWE is directly responsible for how I feel about wrestling as a whole. When WWE is bad, it makes me want to actively seek out other wrestling less which I think is somewhat abnormal. In 2005, I was really big into Ring of Honor. I watched most of the shows from that year. In January of this year, I went to an ROH show in Dayton, OH. Since then, I haven't followed the company, at all. I think a lot of it had to do with James Gibson. As far as TNA is concerned, I quit following them once Christian won the NWA Title and for some reason everyone on the internet was talking about how all the fans coming into the ring was some "big moment." I was like "well, if this is a big moment, I don't like the product." The commentary and the Orlando fans turn me off from the product in a way that no wrestling match can remedy. Last night, during Raw, I found myself watching MLB and NBA instead of Raw the majority of the time. Then I went to bed before the Raw main event even came on because I didn't care. By the time Monday Night Football rolls around, with Tony Kornheiser on there now, I think I'll be done with wrestling for good. It might be time for me to get a new hobby anyway. I've become too jaded where I can't enjoy the product without critiquing it with a fine-toothed comb anyway. The "big" things on the horizon for the Summer of WWE seem to be, apparently, ECW coming back (again) and DeGeneration X coming back. It appears as if this May 19th crap is leading to Kane getting his mask back too. It's just MORE rehashing. I DON'T CARE! I like watching Pride and UFC with my friend Jeremy more...and it's cheaper.

From my experiences, stick with the big guys and the neck drops. All of my friends couldn't really "get off" on the Super J Cup tournaments and the like. However, they fell in love with Misawa, Kobashi & Kawada. Hansen too. Of course, they really liked Scott Norton and Vader at the end of his career too. They just seemed to like the big, stiff brawls that had a lot of stuff they haven't seen before. The cruiser stuff, I don't know, I guess that's because of the stigma they've received here in the States.

Which is what everyone is complaining about. Just like Cena "overcoming all odds." Everything is a rehash. That's why the product is so stale. Everything has been done and the bar is too high.

Spirit Squad comes to mind. Vince & Shane. Possibly Kane.

I'd prefer it to be HBK, HHH, CM Punk & Mickie James.

I read that, it was a good assessment. I hate how people just seemingly overlook things to make their point. Example: when people say Carlito/Masters "wasn't bad" they "forget" to mention the botched kickout. You brought up everything. I liked that.

I actually watched the pay-per-view live and, well, it wasn't good. The main event was but the rest of the show was Wrestlecrap. I mean, there was a lot of bad. Vince gropping Candice backstage, the Kane "red light special," the Vince & "god" skits, the entire Striker/Eugene shit. The match I was looking forward to the most, Mickie/Trish, ended abruptly because of injury and they had to improve the finish on the fly. So, it was really bad. Shame too because it started out looking like it was going to be good. The main event was really good. No complaints from me there. There was a lot of D-X teasing by HHH and HBK again. You could tell that Shelton & RVD were given extra time last minute because Trish/Mickie ended short. They didn't know what to do with the extra time, so it was just sloppy, boring & dull. It's amazing how many people shit themselves over a WWE match because it goes longer than eight minutes and involved midcarders. This match was in no way "amazing" or anything else you may read at some other places. It dragged...a lot. There was a lot of stalling and even more crappy transistion moves. Neither man can throw a punch but I'll be damned if they didn't attempt hundreds. Well, RVD was throwing sloppy forearms instead. The high point of the match was a superplex spot where Shelton jumped all the way to the top rope from the canvas. Impressive. RVD teased Rolling Thunder several times. It was even reversed into a Samoan Drop by Shelton once, which was the second best spot of the match, but when RVD finally hit the move it wasn't as big a deal as it should've been. The Van Daminator with the briefcase was a new twist on an old spot, so I didn't mind that. The Five-Star was good too. It was just like any indy match with semi-competant workers though. A lot of nothing in between a few spots that were good. It wasn't anything that someone like Jack Evans couldn't have done. Yet, since it was Benjamin & Van Dam people are talking about it like it was great.

I've came to the conclusion that I don't really care about the actual contents of a match anymore. At least not as it pertains to WWE. I care about who wins but other than that, the only thing that matters to me is the characters and the storyline. I've really got into the Mickie/Trish storyline. Although the skit last night was pretty hokey, I've enjoyed the past advancement. I'll admit, when the feud first started, the only reason I cared was because they were both hot and were showing a lot of ass. Literally. Now, though, it's actually pretty enthralling. I think that explains why I've never really liked Benoit. He's boring to me. He can certainly bring it in the ring but in WWE, I need more than that. When I just want to watch matches, I buy an ROH DVD or download some Puro. I think it's also part of the reason why I've become so disenchanted with the TNA product. Yeah, they can put on good matches. Their PPVs are usually fabulous. I need substance though. I was a reason to watch every week.

Eh, honestly, the way I see it, they'll just change the name of OVW to ECW to maybe increase some viewership. Of course it's not going to be the same as ECW used to be. ECW is dead and gone. Also, the Sandman might be terrible but he's one of the faces of ECW, so you have to have him around.

You know, honestly, with the announcement of ECW supposedly coming back and now Brock's lawsuit getting settled, this has actually been a pretty significant wrestling news week. So, why don't I care about any of the stories? Shit, the ECW thing should've been big news.

Batista. I've liked the matches that AJ has churned out more, because he's worked guys like Samoa Joe, Christopher Daniels, American Dragon, etc. Batista actually made me care about Smackdown for awhile. That's saying something. I liked his character. He was this big, monsterous beast...but he was kindof like the Hulk in that he had to get upset for the beast to come out. Outside of matches, he's this funny, subtle, sharp-dressing, laid back dude. It's comedy. I hate Styles' character. He's like a christian prep with a southern drawl but I'm supposed to cheer for him? I hated preps in high school, why should I like Styles? Because he's athletic? So is everyone else in the X-Division.

No, that's not true. The second night of Kobashi in ROH, the teams had to pretty much go against the booking of the company because Low Ki spoke Japanese and Homicide didn't. At least that's what I was told.

...are you asking me because I'm a Triple H mark. I want to see Angle, Mysterio & The Undertaker again. I want to see MNM. Hell, my cable provider doesn't even carry UPN, I have to download Smackdown to watch it and I don't like doing that. Besides, I think the undercard would be better if the split ended. There's a lot of midcarders on Smackdown (Burchill, Finlay, etc.) that I'd like to see mix up with the Raw midcarders (RVD, Carlito). ...and I'd be OK with that because half of them shouldn't have jobs.

Where does the Great Muta fit into all of this? He wrestled in the States and in Japan, so does he have his own category or something?

I still want the split to end altogether. I know the negatives, I just don't care. I'm a greedy fan and want it all.

See, I still like Savage/Steamboat but I think the match would've been better without the Animal Steele drama. Just the dropping of Steamboats neck on the railing with the double-ax and the IC title on the line were enough for me.

I was actually thinking about two or three weeks ago that a fourth man was going to be added to the mix. I was expected the whole HBK gets involved to get the D-X reunion started and possibly change the match to a tag match or a four way. WWE went with a tag match with God instead.

Sek, on what page did your shit start to happen on the DVDVR thread? I don't want to have to register just to shut off signatures. EDIT: Fuck it, I registered anyway.

I'll be damned if that new Motorhead King of Kings songs isn't catchy though.

I was reading the DVDVR forums for, maybe the second time in my life because I wanted to check out the drama of Sek's continual suspension. That being said, I'm actually entertained by the Batista Vs. Styles thread. Granted the people don't go into great detail, for the most part, of why the voted the way they did and I'm still only on the first page, however thus far it's enjoyable. It did make me think though. What's Batista's best match? He had three matches with Hunter. He had a tag match with Orton & Flair against Rock & Foley. He had a couple matches with Jericho on Raw. A bad match with JBL. I just can't really think of anything that stood out. Off the top of my head, I'd probably say his Hell in a Cell match with Hunter. Is there a big match that I'm forgetting?

There were more DX shenanigans if you watch the Backlash press conference on WWE.com.

I know he's one of your favorite wrestlers, Loss, and he can certainly sell and put over a storyline in a match. He certainly got megaton heat. So, where's Michael "P.S." Hayes?

I didn't expect it to be perfect because obviously Stuff isn't trying to target wrestling fans however, Carl Ouellette didn't play the Mountie, Jacque Rougeau did.

Trish has never stopped looking good, she just doesn't dress as provocative as she used too since she started wrestling. She wears pants and tops that have a less likely chance to have a "waldrobe malfuction" since she's wrestling weekly. So, when she does wear something to show off her ass or whatever, people are like "oh, I forgot...damn." Whereas someone like Torrie Wilson is always hanging out, so people get used to it and it's not special anymore.