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I have no idea what the mindset is. If they can afford a ticket and a t-shirt, the reality is they can afford a bottle of BBQ sauce. By the way, I have bought and tried JR's BBQ. It tastes to me just like the kind in the little packets from McDonald's. That's not really a good thing. It also scorches when you grill with it.

I'm assuming because even when he does show up to get Cole's foot stuck in his mouth, or whatever, his JR'S BBQ label is pointing at the hard cam the entire time.

Reading this post made me feel bad for the guy! Babyface sympathy heat!

Eh, I'm a sucker for reality TV (even exceptionally bad reality TV, like Bad Girls Club) so I have watched every episode of Tough Enough so far. I guess I dig it, although no one on the entire show, sans Rima whom already was eliminated, stands out to me as someone that could go anywhere in wrestling. It also does not really feel natural at all and the majority of the stuff that they are doing seems to favor small people.

I remember Sid squashing a jobber in WCW and it really made Sid look like a monster. He did like a tornado Powerbomb on the dude and it just looked like death. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rPKBYJAJgs That is one thing that jobbers were good for, making wrestlers look damn-near unstoppable.

Two entirely different ballparks.

I am not sure if I am reading/understanding this correctly. So, Vince Russo ran a video store and a radio show. Someone on that radio show (John Arezzi) badmouthed WWE about the sex scandals (which I also don't remember) so WWE contacted Vince Russo to get the show taken off the air? Then Russo replaced that radio show segment, with his own pro-WWE segment?

I'm curious to read the opinions of what the posters here think about Vince Russo. I watched the Rise and Fall of WCW on Netflix today, and for the most part, people were pretty negative toward him. Jim Cornette is famous for verbally lambasting the man as well. A lot of people would even argue that Vince Russo is a big reason, if not the sole reason, why TNA is unwatchable. Thoughts on Vince Russo?

I am more pessimistic than optimistic. The things which I enjoy, I am often lambasted for on-line as it seems to differ from the norm. I don't hate Triple H and actually think he's really good. I have never liked Rey Mysterio (or most Cruserweights, or Lucha Libre in general). Although I am not a fan of the "WWE style" so to speak, I do think it is unbelievable for wrestlers to be normal looking guys that you would see on a college campus. It is why I struggle to get into a lot of Independent promotions, like Ring of Honor, because I can never take a Jack Evans or Amazing Red seriously. I think talking, especially in the United States, really matters more than the in-ring action a lot of the time (although both are obviously important) and it's a big reason why I have never been super high on Dean Malenko, Chris Benoit or the like. Which is odd because I do like a lot of Puroresu, despite the language barrier. I first started watching professional wrestling sometime during the build-up to Wrestlemania V. I distinctly remember the Mega-Power splitting and Savage getting jealous at Hogan carrying Miss Elizabeth to the back. So sometime around that Saturday Night's Main Event is when I started watching. According to Wikipedia, Wrestlemania V happened April 2, 1989, so I guess that means I have been watching wrestling for about twenty-two years now, which puts me at seven years old when I started watching, which sounds about right. I first got on-line at the end of 1998 and I remember being confused by all the hate thrown toward both Kevin Nash and Goldberg. That was when everything changed, really, including my perspective and a lot of my opinions. The more information available to you, I don't know, it's kind of hard to explain. Once you start listening to shoot interviews and reading about the backstage stuff, you even find yourself watching the on-screen product differently. On more than one occasion, when watching wrestling nowadays, I will see someone like, let's say Alberto Del Rio. He wins the Royal Rumble to win a title shot at Wrestlemania. Wrestlemania comes and he curtain jerks and loses. So the first thing I think is "maybe he failed a wellness test." That shit would never have crossed my mind without the internet, obviously. I find myself going back and watching a lot of older stuff as I am generally disinterested in the current product. I was completely apathetic for Wrestlemania this year, however I am highly entertained by going back and watching old One Man Gang, Adrian Adonis, Butch Reed or Jim Duggan stuff. Not only that but when I was growing up, I did not really realize how good I had it. The undercard was full of people like Curt Hennig, Rick Rude, Ted DiBiase, Ricky Steamboat & Randy Savage. Nowadays, the top of the card is people like John Cena, The Miz and Kane. It's just two different worlds. I would like to think that I have not been persuaded negatively by differing viewpoints on the internet, but over time, I most certainly have. I like to think that my thoughts, ideas, opinions and whatnot are all just me being me and having my tastes change over time, but those tastes changed because of reading or hearing insider shit, you know? A lot of the time, one of my biggest downfalls, is that I get too...passionate, I guess you could say, when defending my viewpoints. Sometimes, I'm not even sure...I know viewpoints and opinions are all subjective, but when someone has the complete exact opposite opinion to me on everything I think I'm being trolled, or that they're irrational or whatever, but all arrows in my head point to them being wrong. Obviously an opinion can not really be wrong, it's an opinion, but it just seems way too coincidental. I can't tell when people are just fucking with me because I'm easily riled up or when they honestly just believe everything that they type. It's why I've been banned from pretty much every forum I have ever posted on! I have been to a lot of shows, spent a lot of money on wrestling, love talking about wrestling and still even get together with friends for wrestling events but I almost feel embarrassed if a non-wrestling fan finds out that I'm a fan. It usually leads to ridicule and it's hard to defend when their idea of wrestling is just whatever Vince McMahon presents on Monday Night. So, I'm not sure if that really explains who or what I am in regards to being a fan, but I wouldn't rule out the fact that now I just am out of habit anymore.

I came into the thread to say Butch Reed but was pleasantly surprised to see that I as beaten to it repeatedly.

Observer said Lawler will not be using a Piledriver at Wrestlemania. Just curious what everyone thought about that. Big deal, not a big deal? Good decision?

I fail to see how the biggest wrestling related news story in months is just a few throwaway comments in a hard-to-find thread here. This Jeff Hardy shit is literally hundreds of pages of discussion on other message forums.

I think it depends on the criteria that you're looking at. Growing up in the United States and watching NWA & WWF, being able to talk matters a lot and when watching Puroresu I never see them talk at all and if I did, it would be in a language that I do not understand anyway. In Japan, at least when talking about the Misawa's and Jumbo's, it was more about what happened in the ring. In the United States, I think it was more about making people want to see the match because of the storyline leading up to it. People didn't want to watch Hulk Hogan because he was a master technician in the ring. In the end, professional wrestling is a business, so how much does being a draw matter? Or longevity? Austin made a ton of money but wasn't on top for very long. Plus when he was on top, his body was pretty broken down and his best matches, I would argue, were behind him. The first name that came to mind for me was The Great Muta. Although he falls into the can't talk/speaks foreign category so how could I put him over someone like Flair? Even with his longevity. I think it's like trying to ask someone to name their favorite song. If you listen to a lot of heavy metal and you ask a hip-hop fan what their favorite song is, obviously you're not going to agree.

I heard Meltzer mention Abdullah and the Road Warriors, but Sunny was news to me.

I disagree. I don't think Miz should ever get a clean win unless it's against a jobber on Superstars. The Miz is not supposed to be a challenge for John Cena at Wrestlemania. He is supposed to lose and let the big babyface go over on the big show. People are not paying to see *IF* John Cena can beat The Miz. They're paying to see The Miz get his ass kicked. Just like Honky Tonk Man. You spend all the build up running away and keeping the belt by cheating. Then at the big payday you show your ass and get manhandled. That seems pretty simple to me.

This...is one of the best things I've read in a long time. If I could quote it somewhere, I would. It just makes too much sense.

That was a really good PPV. The Trish stuff was bad. The tag match was bad. The rest was watchable with the Lawler match and both Chambers being downright good.

If The Rock was genuine in his promo last night, it sounded like he was back to me. He said he wasn't leaving and was not there just to promote a movie, blah blah blah. Granted, he could have very well just been in character and telling the fans what they wanted to hear, or I could have just been hearing what I wanted to hear. Now he has an official The Rock Twitter account too and his Facebook has blown up. If nothing else, people know he's around again and that can't hurt. There's other matches that I would like to see, like Vs. The Miz, Vs. Dolph Ziggler, Vs. Wade Barrett, I just don't think they would mean anything. Now all I need is for Big Dave to come back and I would be golden! (I'm such a mark)

I'd love to see Rock Vs. C.M. Punk and Rock Vs. Alberto Del Rio but I see your point. Those are the two that I think will be huge for the future.

The rush? The fans? The love of the business? You could make the same argument for making movies.

Call me gullible, I suppose, but I do not think it is out of the realm of possibility for the Rock to not only wrestle but return to WWE full-time.

You can't hide the truth...

When he said that The Rock is back and not leaving, I marked out, I won't lie. In one promo, he managed to shit all over Cole and the terrible G.M. angle plus make Cena & Miz look like jokes. You can't teach that shit. The fake out with the female legs was awesome.

That Wrestlemania update article makes me angry because it refers to movie characters as heel and face.

Yes and a Tables, Ladders & Chairs Pay-Per-View. I'm not really sure what they were trying to accomplish. They got rid of King of the Ring, they got rid of Survivor Series (or wanted to) but they keep making gimmick shows, so I'm not sure what the point is.