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If the Dudleyz lose to the Heavenly fuckin' Bodies, I'm not voting anymore.

I don't even know what to think, if Cornette gets fired. What will WWE do with OVW? Where will Cornette go? Truthfully, it doesn't seem to have that big of an impact on me, personally, as a fan. I never get to watch OVW, so it seems like Cornette's mind for the business is, basically, being wasted. Maybe him getting fired from OVW would be a blessing in disguise? I don't think he'd fit in too well over at TNA. Truth be told, I haven't seen him in ROH either. Of course, if you guys say he's made an impact there in the past, I'm sure it's true. I can fantasize about Cornette and Heyman starting a new wrestling promotion that drives WWE down the tubes. Cornette could bring the southern, old-school feel and Heyman could bring the modern day entertainment. Of course, the two could never work together. I bet that company would have some grade A fucking tag team action though!

The Hart Foundation I don't think this vote is a tough call. I grew up with the Hart Foundation and Bret could work circles around both Hardy Boyz. Neidhart played his powerhouse role well. The Hardy Boyz had memorable matches but they all involved gimmicks and Jeff killing himself. That's not wrestling. The Fabulous Freebirds Harlem Heat had a lot of success in WCW but I was never really fond of them. I loved the Freebirds though. They're my favorite tag team of all-time, so obviously this one is a no brainer. The Dudley Boyz My second favorite tag team of all-time. The best tag team finisher of all time. Terrific as heels. The Heaven Bodies were forgettable at best. The Brainbusters I love me some Nikita but he can't compete with two of the original Four Horsemen.

I was under the impression that she asked for her release. She didn't want to be on the road and whatnot while she's pregnant. So, she's going to go home and start a family. WWE bought her contract out, so I'm sure she'll be well off. It doesn't seem cold to me at all. I mean, especially when you look at her character. There's not a lot she can do while pregnant. It makes sense.

Yeah but professional wrestling isn't like other professions. It's full of shady characters and douches. Seriously, when backstage pranks and whatnot are the norm, what can you expect? It's a sleezy business. Finding shit in your bag is a common occurance!

I've been on the JBL bandwagon for a couple of months now. I like the character. I think he's an underrated worker too. He's a real good brawler.

Rockers Steiners MVC Midnight Express

The more I think about this, the more I want Brock back. I don't know if I really want to see Brock/Batista collide though. I mean, Brock can wrestle and "Big Dave", well, he really can't. I mean, I like :krakken: don't get me wrong, but...he gets blown up. I liked him for his little manuerisms. Now that he's got the Big Gold Belt? I feel that all the little things that I liked about him are being exploited. I feel like a bandwagon jumper because everyone notices all the little things that I used to mark out for. Like his "guns" during his entrance or the way that he climbs the stairs. Brock, on the other hand, he's a hoss with workrate. That's a rare breed in itself. I'll just be glad to see him back. Smackdown sure could use him. Of course, I wish 'Taker wasn't still around. I never feel that Smackdown can have a real "top dog" as long as 'Taker's in the yard. Both kayfabe and not. No matter who you are, you still have to be scared of the Deadman.

I think so. Especially since the Jarretts are seemingly being pushed out of TNA and it's being funded by Panda Energy. Is WWE and Vince going to randomly contact Panda Energy and say they want to help "for the better of the business." Seems a bit too far fetched for me. With ECW, they seemed to at least have been able to deal with Heyman, right? I want to see fucking Bob Holly on this list before it's all said and done with. Especially with Brock Lesnar coming back.

I can't believe that The Dudley Boys are gone. If TNA gets on Spike TV, their tag team division is going to be sick. The Dudleys Vs. The Hardys to pull in viewers. Then The Naturals, Team Canada and AMW can get involved in the mix. There's a lot of cats that can help the X-Division too. I'm curious if TNA can afford this many people at once. Obviously they'll want the Dudleys.

Yeah, that's what I meant. I got the names confused.

Jesse Ventura would still be doing color commentary. Jim Ross and Bobby Heenan wouldn't talk funny. Hogan wouldn't show up for pops. Kayfabe would still be alive and well.

Midnight Express Demolition Road Warriors Rock & Roll Express I think these are all pretty straight-forward picks. Seemed to be an easy round for me.

I think it's interesting that as soon as Kevin Dunn leaves the writing team Triple H gets taken off of TV.

Damnit, I don't give a shit what anyone says, Maven was good! Just look at what he has done in the four years that he's been in WWE. I mean, physique wise and wrestling wise. He had got a lot better. In fact, he was even my most improved wrestler. This really disappoints me. Moreso because I don't think any Indy fed will be interested in him, so he'll probably get out of the business. He even played his role with Simon Dean well, and that was a dead end gimmick. He started using the Lung Blower as a finisher but no one watches Heat so no one got to see it. It even seemed as if he was improving on the microphone. He never really got a fair chance. He could've been something. He had a good look.

Ah, I see where you're coming from now. Isn't Smackdown the hip-hop show? Afterall, it's on UPN. Seriously though, what could they possible do? WWE is ran by a bunch of crusty, old, white dudes. The company is out of touch with it because they are out of touch with it. Just like congress. I remember rolling my eyes when everyone got all up in arms because Kevin Garnett called himself a soldier. *slaps head*

I'm saying that they can still have it, and still seem trendy for having it, but have the other shit too, so they can reach out and relate to more people. I know that wrestling seems to have a big, redneck stigma attached to it. Where's the country music? Why doesn't a wrestler from Texas come out to some Conway Twitty or Kenny Chesney?

Please, no. If anything, they need MORE music genres, not less. Keep the hip-hop, like Trish's theme and keep the generic Nu-Metal like what they use for PPV's. Add in more stuff too though. Get some Techno, some straight, hard, rap...not Cena rap. They've used everything from Rob Zombie to Lil' Kim to Alter Bridge, so they should either branch out more or just go back to WWE produced music only. Whoa. I wish I would've thought of that. That's tremendous.

I don't know what to think of it. I mean, it does seem to go against what his character has been preaching all this time. He's trying to hammer home that he's discriminated against simply because he's an arab-american and everyone thinks he's a terrorist. Now he does this, so.... Oh well, I'm all for UT catchin' a beat down.

Jung Dragons v British Bulldogs C'mon, like the Jung Dragons even have a chance here? I don't need to explain this one. Los Guerreros v Edge & Christian I think Edge and Christian had better matches. Even if the majority of them were gimmick matches. E&C were certainly more entertaining and weren't based around a stereotype as much as the Guerreros. Booker T & Goldust v Fantastics I got to be honest, I don't remember who the Fantastics are. Booker T. & Goldust weren't a real tag team but I know who they are and they made me laugh on more than one occasion. "I'm the five time WCW champion...and I got a sword!" Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho v Hollywood Blondes No contest. Benoit/Jericho didn't team together enough to compete.

I don't know, I think the show sounds really good. I can't wait to download it, so that I can watch it. Since I don't get UPN, that's my only option. Since Batista, Christian and Hassan are all on Smackdown now, there's no way I won't watch it. Add in the Mexicools, and it's a no brainer for me. It'll be better than Raw, that's for sure. Of course, they didn't really set the bar too high this week.

I never get to watch the "B" shows, so I just assumed that he was still boring and bland. If that's not the case, it's news to me. I thought he stood out the least out of all the Natural Born Thrillers in WCW. I didn't think he'd improved since then. I liked Palumbo, Stasiak, O'Haire, Sanders and even random Reno more than him. If he's getting better, fucking A, I hope WWE capitalizes on it. Of course, I didn't think Garrison Cade was that bad and they sent him back to OVW.

Chavo making fun of the Guerrero name on Live TV was the most disheartening, disrespectful thing that I've ever heard. I didn't even know what to say or do when I heard him do that. Raw needs Trish to come back. She's still the best character that they have and she hasn't been on TV in months. I was pulling for my girl, Kristal, last night. I thought she had that immunity won, but alas, it wasn't meant to be. Hopefully, she's get another week and not be the first one voted off. There was so much wrong with that segment last night...where do you even begin when bashing it? The heel turn was great. I called it at the beginning of the show but I was just joking. When it actually went down, I was stunned and happy all at the same time. Fucking, if Shawn and Hunter are both going to be heels again, and obviously WWE doesn't care about continuity, give D-X another run. Heh. Needs more Michael "P.S." Hayes. Make it happen!

This is the type of shit that I could roll on all day about. I know you made this thread with me in mind, Loss, so I appreciate it. I think it's a good, thought provoking topic too. I'm going to kick my shit up a notch by randomly throwing in some pictures too. Just for the fuck of it. We only have a few replies and already you can tell that people are undecided about the brand split. It does have it's strengths and weaknesses. Some of the strengths include things such as drafts that garner interest. Also, interbrand matches always seem to come off well, such as HBK/Angle from 'Mania. The downside is that you don't get to see all of your favorite people on each show. The plus side, theoretically, is that you would get to see more people on each brand. Personally, I still don't know how I feel about it. I think I'm glad it's there. If it weren't, we'd have two entertainment shows. Imagine if the Diva Search was on both shows? What if the main event scene was Triple H Vs. The Undertaker again? No thanks. So, I'd leave the brand split. What I would do, however, is totally revamp each brand. A general couple of changes would happen to both shows, such as eliminating GM's, Ref Bumps, etc. Then each brand would be like a different company. Smackdown could have the high-flying cruiserweights so maybe Raw could have the over-the-top-rope-equals-DQ rule reinstated? How about on Raw you have to give up by tapping out but on Smackdown you have to verbally quit? Give Smackdown a ramp that connects to the side of the ring...it'd make for some more unique cruiser spots. I agree that Raw needs a makeover. I think the three man commentary team is a step in the right direction. They need to do more than have off the wall characters and a bunch of skits though. It's still a wrestling show. If I had my way, WWE would be back to four PPV's a year. I know that they can't do that because PPV's make too much money for the company but when there's fewer PPV's it makes them more special. Just like title matches. Wrestlemania, Royal Rumble, Summerslam and Survivor Series. The Series would be back to five on five matches. Summerslam could have the yearly gimmick match, which appears to be either Hell in a Cell or Elimination Chamber nowadays. The Rumble would be the same and 'Mania would be the yearly blowoff. The end of the season so to speak. I'd get rid of the IC, one of the tag and US titles. I know this won't be a popular opinion. I love the IC title and it's lineage but nowadays it's an afterthought. Look at Sheltons reign. He had a long reign which was acknowledged. He never defended the belt and no one cared. People were more excited to see The Texas Tornado win that bitch. So, just let it go away for awhile. I remember when it was gone last time and I thought it was a terrible idea. Austin brought it back, said it was one of the most important titles that he ever won and instantly gave the title legitimacy again. Then the booking and shit just took it back to where it's at now. Sad. I'd replace all of those belts with a Television title. I think WWE should start doing a Clash of the Champions type show too. A big show that's almost like a PPV but it's on free TV. Big things will take place though. When was the last time you saw a title switch on TV that mattered? Have the TV champion defend his title at each TV show. That means Raw and Smackdown. I figure the Clash would be interbrand, so obviously he'd be there. With the "B" shows seemingly going away, it wouldn't be too much workload I don't think. Not if you put the belt on a workhorse. Make it so that wrestling talent is the focal point of the TV belt. People like Benoit could hold it and not look like they've been demoted on the shows. People like Val Venis could hold it and not look like a jobber with a midcard belt. Sort of like the Pure Wrestling Title in Ring of Honor. At least that's what I'd like it to be like ideally. The continuity point that Loss made is a HUGE one. I remember reading about someone whom used to work for WWE and he had a big posterboard with magnets that showed who couldn't interact with who due to past altercations. WWE needs that again. Like Loss said, they need to acknowledge the past more too. When Hassan calls himself undefeated, why not bring up the DQ against Benoit? Talk about Big Show being a former world champion. Talk about the F-5 being used in the past by Brock Lesnar when Matt Morgan does it. Little things like that go a long way. Obviously WWE isn't proud of everything that's went down in the past but that shouldn't make it so they just straight ignore shit. Lita turns heel so that means she has to randomly befriend Snitsky? He still aborted her fucking baby...even if Kane is the one that fell on top of her and she was dumb enough to get into the ring. He still stalked her and chased her. She should hate his ass. I don't think WWE should have such established finishers like they do. I wish it were more like Japan. Kawada's powerbomb is a big deal, for example, but in main events, the first one never gets the win. Finishers should be last ditch efforts after all the other moves didn't work. They should be scouted more so that opponents are looking for them so they can reverse them. Why can't Triple H win with an Indian Deathlock or his Spinebuster every now and then? Why doesn't Batista win with his Clothesline anymore? I think title matches should be bigger, more professional spectacles. Sort of like they do in Japan and/or boxing. Each wrestler comes out to their theme and then waits in their corner. The announcer doesn't introduce them as they're walking down the ramp but instead does it when both wrestlers are in the ring. Introduce them by name, height, weight and location. Then whatever title they are at the time, like World Heavyweight Champion, or former eleven time champion. Have the face off in the middle as the referee shows the title to both wrestlers and the crowd. I'm a big fan of the boxing type press conferences as well. When the champion and the challenger get together in a hype session before the match where they call each other out and make predictions and shit. Abandon women wrestling. It's not going to catch on with the crowd. Especially while Lawler is on commentary and making a mockery of it at every second. Trish worked hard and got to where she's at. No one else seems to want to put in the effort. Jazz was fired. Victoria doesn't matter anymore. Trish is still on the shelf. Lita is the shits. You can't have a division, let alone a competitive title, with that shit. Go back to having male managers and valets. Let Stacy be the modern day Miss Elizabeth. She just stands at ringside and claps. Occasionally distracts the heel. Something like that. She shouldn't be doing bra and panty matches or any of that shit. I always thought that Trish would work great with Hunter. Even though he doesn't need her, she'd get a huge rub from him. Kindof like how Shane Douglas was always the champion and had a hot woman with him. Flair would still be around. So, Triple H would have the brains (Flair), beauty (Trish) and ability (himself). Then, at least in my eyes, he'd be more credible when he was dominating the entire roster. I don't think WWE should bench him. He hasn't been on Raw in two weeks and I've already started to miss him to a degree...mainly just because last nights show was so awful. It'd be great if it happened and WWE acknowledged the past with Trish and HHH. Remember the feud that Trish and Stephanie had? When HHH was teaching Trish a hammerlock in the back? Acknowledge that shit. This was mentioned somewhere else, I think Something Awful, but they really shouldn't play a wrestlers entrance music during a run-in. It's awkward. I'm a big fan of sneak attacks. Especially when they come from the crowd and it's someone unexpected. I'd mark out now if Sting were to randomly show up and Scorpion Death Drop someone. I think WWE should continue to bring in big names. Their age shouldn't matter as long as they can still go. Even if it's just like NWA used to do. Have former champions or whatever show up, get a pop, and be on a title committee or a judge for a title match in case it goes to time limit. Something like that. They could use Vader, Steamboat, Windham, Nikita, Backlund, whomever. I think WWE should hire Konnan and make him the mouthpiece for the Mexicools. Konnan has a good look is a decent enough wrestler and the crowd can actually understand him when he talks. If WWE is really getting rid of the "B" shows, just cut the extra weight instead of having the workers on the roster all fearing for their jobs. Let them pursue careers elsewhere where they might get over and actually be allowed to showcase their talent. I'm sure RoH or TNA would pick up Val Venis or Akio. You know what I'm saying? They're never going to do anything in the company, so just cut them off. Bring back the big blue barred cage matches where the only way to win is to climb over the top and touch the floor. No door. No pinfall/submission. The cage is lowered over the two wrestlers before the bell rings. I'd take that over a Hell in a Cell anyday. It keeps people out (in theory) and keeps people from running away. Stop showing backstage shit. It's dumb. The occasional interview in front of a backdrop is fine. I don't want to see wrestlers walking to the ring, Goldberg style, or a cameraman trying to catch up to something that's going on. If it's important it should happen in front of the live audience. I hate how in one skit we're supposed to acknowledge that the cameraman is there but in the next he's supposed to be invisible. I know that WWE has the Highlight Reel and Carlito's Cabana now but I think they should have their own sets instead of just being in the ring. I'm thinking like the Barbershop, Piper's Pit or The Brother Love Show. I think it's better that way and you don't have to waste time by building, removing the in-ring shit. This is a big pet peeve of mine. WWE needs to quit taking commercial breaks in the middle of a match. ESPECIALLY on taped shows. What the fuck, seriously? I'll add more as I think of it. Great topic!

Good point, but wasn't it reported that he was wrestling on Smackdown?