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Kim's sticking around, right? Hrmph. Not a lot of Kim to do, unfortunately. She has a good look; better than the dime-a-dozen, ditzy, bimbo blondes that seem to be popular nowadays. She was doing a lot better in-ring when she stopped flying and started stretching in her last weeks in WWE too. ...but she doesn't have any opponents. Liger is Liger. He'll come in, have a good-great match, and then that'll be the end of it.

There's a reason that the Raw threads, here at NMB (cheap pop) are so mediocre. It's because the actual shows are that mediocre. Last nights show was an abomination. There were several matches, which is one of the things that "smarks" have clamored for, yet they were all AWFUL. We had Tomko Vs. Cena. I had to laugh at how awful Tomko's knee strikes were. Ashley Vs. Torrie, who thought that was a good idea? There was just a ton of sloppy, dreadful, quick matches that didn't have a whole lot of content or meaning. Just, apparently, groundwork to build to the next forgetable PPV. The Hurricane & Rosey Vs. Murdoch & Cade. Was their TV debut announced? It was certainly bad, so I hope it wasn't. Rob Conway Vs. Shelton? Kerwin comes out to start a feud with Shelton? Why is all of this going on? Val/Vis team to wrestle the Heart Throbs. I think this match got the most time too. At least it seemed like it did because the match just. would. not. end. Hardy Vs. Snitky? This, apparently, advanced Edge Vs. Hardy & Big Show Vs. Snitsky. Throw in a Cabana and a Masterlock Challenge main event and that was the whole show. So, the next PPV is shaping up to be the following: Kerwin Vs. Shelton Cade/Murdoch Vs. Hurricane/Rosey with the new team winning the belts. Shelton Vs. Flair for the IC belt. HBK Vs. Masters Something with the Divas. Prolly Ashley "getting revenge" by Trish coming back. Edge Vs. Hardy cage match Show Vs. Snitsky Angle Vs. Cena for the WWE title. Is anyone going to pay for this? Thirty-five bucks for this?

You can get the actual shows from here. Last I heard, registration was closed. It'll be open again on the 21st.

I know he's had influence, I just thought they finally made it official. Was I misinformed? I always just figured it was because they could blame someone new each day of the week and then the writers only get blamed for shit twice a month. Some good ones, other than titles, that WWE seems to like are fighting over a woman (which I don't think is bad) and fighting over...that's all I got. Jealousy? Like when a tag team member thinks his partner is more successful or whatever. That tends to work. Well, we all know WWE can't do anything that would allow people to compare it with legitimate sports.

She oversees both shows too, doesn't she? I also remember reading that HHH was officially a part of the creative team now, so what role does he play into things? It's like, I remember reading that WWE had fourteen writers. With Dave leaving and Dusty filling his spot, they'd still have fourteen...only now Trips fits in there too. So we have fourteen writers that then present it to Steph, whom Trips has the ear of, then it has to go through Vince too all before it gets the green light? No wonder good ideas get the axe. They have upwards of twenty people that could not like an idea.

Also, it should definitely be noted that the promo's came off lackluster because they followed the Hardy/Edge "serious" moment which should've ended the show. It fucked up the flow of the program when we see Flair backstage bleeding, yet it's not a big deal, then Edge/Hardy on stretchers, and it's supposed to be a HUGE deal and then Cena comes out and tells car insurance jokes.

Anyone see the promo that James Gibson cut backstage with Spanky after Spanky and Gibson had both lost earlier in the night? It was during New Frontiers. Anyway, during the promo Gibson made the point that he just wasn't getting the job done. He talked about how he loved the adoration from the fans but it had made him soft. He went on to say how the fans can call him "James Gibson, Jamie Noble or Gomer fucking Pyle" for all he cares. It was a good promo and going back on it, I think it had an even bigger impact sense he went on to win the ROH title.

The Hardy/Edge Street Fight was better than it had any right to be. It's what the match at Summerslam should've been. WWE seems to be teasing smart fans that keep calling who's going to return. I've been guessing Trips and Trish to come back since before Summerslam. I think Trips will come back on the first USA show but I don't know what to think about Trish anymore. I hope Angle gets the title off of Cena, although I did laugh at his Geico comment. Tomko made it back to Raw. LOL

What about Shawn Michaels Dream Matches? Against The Rock, for example.

I still think Taker/Orton was MotN....

After going off on the IWC for not praising his match with RVD, he didn't give him a shout out?

No doubt. Especially if Raven is still the champion. With all the UFC & TNA talk, TNA should try to get back Ken Shamrock too. The debut show having Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho, Ken Shamrock, The Dudley Boyz & Kanyon for name value, along with showcasing Christopher Daniels, AJ Styles, Alex Shelley & Samoa Joe, maybe some Shark Boy and Abyss to get over gimmicks, would be a great show. Hell, they could run the Naturals Vs. AMW again. They might get a 2.0! September will certainly be interesting. Not just to see what direction TNA takes leading up to their national Spike TV exposure, but to see how Spike goes about letting the viewing audience know they're coming. It'll be comedy to see TNA commercials during each WWE break. That might make WWE think twice before taking a commercial break midmatch.

This seems to be the "thread of the day" at multiple forums that I visit. If nothing else, it's getting people talking. I'm sure it's just a ploy to get either more hits to his website or generate more interest in his character for when he returns.

Shawn Michaels cut a shooty, sarcastic promo on Hogan. Talked about how HBK couldn't keep up with his technical prowless and untouchable catch-us-catch-can style and speed. This prompted Chris Masters to randomly come out and him and HBK brawled. So, Shawn is still a face, apparently, but is trying to get over that he doesn't like Hogan. Either that or he's the most confusing tweener ever. Masterlock Challenge next week between the two. There was a decent Shelton Vs. Angle match. A well timed commercial break killed a lot of the flow though. Angle was made to look stronger. Cena wrestled Jericho in a loser is fired match. Cena won. Jericho begged to keep his job to no avail. Angle did a run-in post match to beat the slop out of Cena and Bischoff said Angle is the #1 contender. This was the main and how the show ended. Torrie Wilson and Candice are on Raw now. They were "traded" for Christy and Stacy. Torrie and Candice "turned heel" by doing a beatdown on the Diva Winner Ashley. Ric Flair was on Carlito's Cabana. Went crazy. Dropped an elbow on his jacket and beat up Carlito after Carlito tried to "woo," failed, then said "wooing's not cool anyway." There was a promo for a new tag team. Garrison Cade, whom is Lance Cade again I think and the former Stan Dupp whom has a "Deliverance" gimmick and ensured us that someone would "squeel like a pig." The Big Show squashed Snitsky after a humorous, albeit retarded, backstage segment where Snitsky was smelling Maria's feet. Maria looked good. Then Big Show put his monsterous bare foot in front of Snitsky and called him a pervert or some shit to prompt the match. Kerwin White cut a backstage promo or some shit. I wasn't really listening. It ended with him saying "if it's not white, it's not right." Um. Edge Vs. Hardy feud is still going on. Hardy lost to Conway one on one. I guess they're playing up that he has head problems now or something. Post match, Edge beat the slop out of him again. I think that was it....

HHH always has a place. Also, Trish might have a place if they bring Ashley to the ring. I also think they could hold off on Brock/Dave 'til Mania if they bring Brock back as a face...which I don't really want to see. I can't see Hart showing up being an option, personally.

Hulk Hogan Vs. Shawn Michaels Batista? Vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield; World Championship John Cena? Vs. Chris Jericho; WWE Championship Orlando Jordon? Vs. Chris Benoit; US Championship Edge w/ Lita Vs. Matt Hardy Kurt Angle Vs. Eugene w/ Christy Hemme The Undertaker Vs. Randy Orton Eddie Guerrero Vs. Rey Mysterio; Ladder Match Also, people have speculated that we could get anyone from Bret Hart, Brock Lesnar, Trish Stratus and Triple H showing up tonight. We also might get something to do with LOD2k5 and MNM. EDIT: I don't know how I forget about that other Summerslam thread. I even posted in it. Anyway, you can either delete this topic, or we can make it the spoiler version or something.

I'm assuming there's a reason for the shirt pull. It doesn't make any sense otherwise. I can't even get behind anyone in WWE anymore. The last person that I liked was Hassan and WWE took the character too far. He wasn't the best wrestler, but he was entertaining. He was a throwback to gimmicks of the past that I enjoyed a lot, so maybe that's where most of the love came from. That and he was a great talker. I liked Conway when he first debuted. I saw him on Heat and saw a lot of potential. Then they stuck him in La R?sistance and I no longer cared. Now, with his single's push, I like his music.... It's like, I'd be better off watching someone like Colt Cobana in Ring of Honor or Abyss in Total Nonstop Action. So, that's what I watch.

Eh, I thought it did a good job of getting HBK heel heat. Although I was disappointed that Bret didn't make an appearance. I don't expect him to wrestle, guest ref. or anything like that...but I'm sure he could still cut a promo and have JR shill his DVD on commentary. Of course, that's even doubtful. I really don't expect to see Bret on WWE TV again.

I don't even know anymore. Nowadays, you can be the hottest shit ever and not learn how to wrestle until a few years after that. If you would've asked me a couple of months ago, I would've said Hassan. Obviously, that's not going to happen now. Most of the people that I think have "the look" are the shits in the ring. Chris Masters comes to mind immediately. I think Carlito has the charisma to get the job done as well...but we'll have to wait and see. Of course, I thought Conway had a shot. Now he has this current gimmick, so I think he'll probably just become another Val Venis. Potential never reached. Of course, he could turn out to be a Rick Rude type character too. I think Paul London could be something despite his lack of size. He brings a lot of energy. I don't see anything in Shelton Benjamin or Orlando Jordan. If I had to pick two people that would be "the future" I guess it'd be Cena and Carlito. They modern era Austin & Rock...but that's REALLY stretching it. TNA? Abyss. Samoa Joe. Alex Shelley. If he's sticking around, Austin Aries. AJ Styles. TNA has a lot of people that I could see as potential stars. Of course, in TNA, wrestling talent matters a lot more than it does in WWE.

Sounds like fun. Should be a blast!

Since there is such a huge amount of content here, I know we're going to have a "tournament" for this, however, how do we determine in what order we watch the stuff in? Are we going to give random seeds to matches or just randomly throw them in brackets then watch them in the order that they come up? What I mean is, are the DVD matches going to be in order of the way that the brackets play out, or are we going to have to sift through multiple chapters on multiple DVD's to find the match of the hour?

Kenta Kobashi & Mitsuharu Misawa Vs. Toshiaki Kawada & Akira Taue (6/9/95), (5/21/94) & (12/3/93).

It'd probably be easier for me to get blank DVD's and then send them. That way, I can choose the DVD's that I prefer, and cover the cost of postage when sending "the package."

For the older matches, especially the ones from the late sixties-early seventies, what type of video quality should we expect?

I think that the big reason why the TV shows are so lackluster nowadays is because there's a PPV, pretty much, every Sunday. You're not going to see big matches and title changes on TV when WWE can just wait six days and charge thirty-five bucks for it. Of course, in the same vein, there's so many PPV's nowadays, that they've pretty much become the weekly shows. So, you get storyline advancement and skits during the PPV's now. I know that WWE makes too much revenue off of the PPV's to drop the number of them that they have, however, I can still reminisce about the "glory days" when they only had four PPV's a year and the WWE schedule revolved around building to those four shows.