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Parv, can you bold or otherwise mark new additions to your list if you're updating it? Nice to see what's new.

Hayabusa, from El-P

Stealing this one from Goc -- Stan Hansen. The Colon feud. Watch it. Make another video or playlist for someone else that is this awesome. Share it.

Should add I'm more than open to changing my tune on Colon, as I haven't seen enough of him to close the book on him at all. My takeaway here was simply how damn great Stan Hansen was when not working against a HOF talent. No doubt Colon sweated charisma and could control a PR crowd though.

If you've locked Hansen in to a particular spot this won't change your mind. If not, I think this is a terrific example of him producing high level matches and arguably a classic or two with someone that didn't resemble any kind of all-time worker. Super, SUPER charismatic. I didn't come away from this regarding him as this hidden treasure. I did come away asking how many other all timers could pull this off.

Will post my thoughts on the matches later, likely from home. But a HUGE shout out to Goc for making this available in such an easy fashion. We need a thread here or playlist on youtube that compiles these kinds of references so that they're easy to track. Just great work. MAKE IT HAPPEN! Perhaps a GWE-related resource? That just came to mind as this is clearly a must-watch for anyone not sure where to put Hansen.

Oh wow that's you? Consider it done.

+1 for Goc. That's what I'm doing after dinner now. Only 90 minutes?? I was sure that was Parv's version of "we wrestled broadways 8 times every week" or Hogan's 400 matches in a year.

I loved Bret growing up and bought into his catchphrase hook, line and sinker. Rewatching him over the last few years -- whether through yearbooks, WWE dvds, youtube, wherever I came across it -- he was very good. But by no means anything GOAT. Will place a whole lot lower on my list than I ever would've thought even 5 or 10 years ago.

How many average matches did Ogawa have against people who aren't top 10 GOAT candidates?

Here we go, the end of the road as far as it goes with Ditch's hosting. I kicked back and enjoyed this with a beer. Why don't people talk about this more? Everyone talks about the 8/93 bout, but you never hear anything about this. I'm with you. 8/93 is good, but not in the same league as 2/94.

Color me beyond shocked if Cena has any financial need to wrestle. He loves it. But he sounded there like someone with an endpoint in mind. He may never retire like a Flair or HBK, but perhaps that day is sooner than we would've otherwise imagined. Hopefully not.

Immediate reaction from the gut without ANY thinking whatsoever is that Casas is more dependable, could make for a longer highlight reel and is much more versatile -- but Santo wins because of higher highs. But I'd want to think more on it before putting pen to paper.

Curious where people put him. Some terrific stuff in the first run. Cena match. Then some solid stuff on the next go round leading into the Cena series last year followed by a couple classics at Rumble and Mania this year. Arguably not much more greatness here than a Volk Han, but on the other hand probably a lot more than some people touted recently like Gino Hernandez, Pat O'Connor or others with limited assets on tape. I could sell myself very highly on him and probably just as easily make a case against him, which means we'll likely go top 50 but it remains to be seen.

Seconding Savage. Roddy in 2015 is top 2 on my Most Outstanding ballot with AJ, order TBD. Crushed it in ROH with Tanahashi & Nak as well as in multi-mans, in Evolve, as well as Europe and PWG. This is not the Roddy I remember from years back who was fine but didn't particularly stand out.

Good stuff. Looking forward to downloading when I get home after the weekend.

That photo makes me want to hear about KILLAH KHAN

Arguably Liger's best opponent. This definitely matters.

Pure speculation, and I wouldn't attempt to put some kind of timetable on it, but Cena here sounds like someone speaking with a finish line in sight.

The world title would mean so much more if only guys at that level held it. It would also be pretty boring and stale. How many guys in WWE are at that level? Cena, Lesnar and who? Orton? I think the idea is then they'd be forced to book and push guys so that they're cemented at that level with a title win, rather than hoping the title establishes someone you've had driving along a road with staggered lights in the run to the belt. Not everyone can be Cena or Lesnar. They're generational talents in different ways. But look at Ryback. There is nothing about him that ever screamed money except an unbeaten streak where he looked like a boss for a few months. That's it. You apply that formula to almost anyone and you'll have done a better job setting someone up to at least credibly fill one half of a main event than anything that's been done with Rollins, Ambrose, Wyatt, etc.

My wife probably wouldn't let Rusev in the house. She wouldn't be happy about Trips but would take him if he were the only alternative. Then again she puts up with me so perhaps all bets are off.

You are not the top guy in the business if you main event WrestleMania. You are the person who won the Royal Rumble. Anyone can win the Royal Rumble and there is a huge pick of luck that goes into it (random entry). If you win the title than you are the best person in the business. Sure, winning the title at Mania is better than at any other show, but main eventing Mania and losing is not better than being the champion. At least it shouldn't be. That's all well and good in a vacuum, but not so much happens there. Situations matter. Look at Mania 27. Miz closed the show and left with the title. But you could easily argue that he was only marginally more relevant to that main event than the referee. Putting a name or title on someone doesn't make it so.

Except it doesn't. Taking out TV rights fees, when was the last time a month of business did more than Mania in a single night? A hot show like Summerslam '98, Rumble '02 or the Invasion PPV (and 2 of those 3 didn't draw because of the title) did better business than some weaker manias in the mid-90s. Other than that the Super Bowl is still the Super Bowl.

He's not wrong about that. How many title matches on other shows have drawn bigger than Manias?

Not a ton of talk about it so I don't know where consensus is, but my initial reaction was that I preferred their shorter match from last week. This was a lot of fun, but at times it felt like they were throwing stuff out there just to fill the time.