WingedEagle

I've only been back following ROH seriously for a few months now, but am trying to understand Lethal taking the title. Do we think he's a short term transitional champ? His character and style don't seem to fit the profile of what they usually book on top. Maybe I'm in the minority but everything I've seen from him is more along the lines of King Barrett than Wade Barrett, lead Nexus heel, if you know what I mean.

Agreed, they really walk that line well by always offering a wink & a nod with their schtick without letting it completely take over a match and become some parody. If I had to watch a full 3 hour show of that act up & down the card it would tire pretty quickly, but they stand out in a fun and fresh way.

Love the Young Bucks. Have yet to watch a match of theirs that did not entertain. I get why they're not everyone's cup of tea but its good for this soul.

Yesterday I told the folks at Starbucks my name was Virgil and damn near broke out in dance when they called that my drink was ready. Good times!

A very charismatic guy with an unique gimmick who plays it well and works hard in the ring with a somewhat unique offense. Got it. Definitely missing those things.

What am I missing on Dalton Castle?

Where is Cody's eulogy or any others available online?

This is where I am on Silas. I feel he's a solid worker, with decent charisma. Besides Elgin on the ROH roster I can't see who anyone Young would be better in their spot. That really says it. I like him and think he fits in well where slotted. But I can't say I have any desire to see him featured beyond that role.

So what? How does it not make great matches and story telling? I think the finish is a large part of a match. Variable how much and I've always wondered just how much a great finish can add to a good match or similarly a poor finish take away from what was to that point a great finish. Where the finish is weak that takes away from the match for me. Your list happened to highlight just how often Hart went to the same well. I enjoyed some of those finishes when they happened, while others (Piper, DBS, KOTR '93) took away a great deal from the solid work that led up to them.

The Sharpshooter isn't fluky. Diesel's jackinfe isn't fluky. Davey Boy's powerslam isn't fluky. Kicking the ropes out of a sleeper and getting one shoulder up while locked in a submission? That's fluky. Doing it multiple times? That's slip on a banana peel to defend the title fluky. Same for a cradle in a major world title defense. I understand using that type of finish from time to time and it can be a great storytelling device. But when your champion is relying on it that often the story it tells is that he is just getting by rather than conclusively defeating his challengers.

Curious about this last part from people critical of the match. Did you just take issue with what they did or found it silly? Or did you really not like the match? I can't tell from some of the comments others are posting if they actively hated it, or for all I know thought it was great but didn't like how they got there.

Feels like they're hotshotting Rollins/HHH for Summerslam. That seems pretty rushed, but if it refocuses things on Lesnar I'm in. Last night was the first time in a Rollins felt like a big deal.

That really is quite a lot of fluky finishes. Wonder why he went to the same well so often.

Ha that's the other side of it. I love reading certain folks' detailed thoughts on a match. I haven't been able to use these write-ups as easily to determine if I want to check something out, but it definitely provides more fun reading material.

I like Meltzer's system because I'm familiar with it. The best part of it is frankly how widespread it is. After seeing someone rate quite a number of matches, whether its Meltzer, Loss, Parv, Scott Keith, Alan, my aunt or anyone else, you develop a sense of what that rating means to that person. You'd have the same issue with any other rating system -- what does an 8 mean to Meltzer? What's it mean to Wade Keller or someone at the Torch? At the end of the day its a quick way to take the temperature of a match according. Just need to get a feel for that person and then you'll know whether to use their ratings to help you ID matches worth checking out.

Incredibly disappointed that this is going on at the same time as game 5 of the finals. I can almost always disregard other playoff games for a PPV but Finals will always win out. Big question is whether to watch this or Raw tomorrow and the other on Wednesday.

Not defending these practices, but hindsight is a big help here. There's a balance between nurturing potential talent and weeding out those you don't want to waste resources on.

Nope, just and smell like cologne & gum.

Not exactly involved, but I caught Mr. Perfect's towel when he threw it into the stands at Nassau Coliseum in 1993. Dad wasn't thrilled to bring that home, but there was zero chance I was throwing it out. Needless to say I practiced and perfected the art of spitting my gum in the air and slapping it away after that.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I like MSL.

+1 on the Conrad bandwagon. He does about as great a job as possible in the co-host role. Never dominates the conversation, keeps things focused, gets along with everyone and is engaged, and in no way thinks people are there for him. Total pro.

Started another thread that can be deleted, but here's what I said. Will see if I have any more thoughts after work: Triple H just tweeted that Dusty Rhodes has passed away. What a loss. I had the pleasure of meeting him last fall and he was sharp as a knife, incredibly gracious with his time to my wife and I and more than happy to share a few memories and stories from the past. He was also incredibly proud to have his daughter as his date that evening and they seemed to have a terrific time. RIP to a true GOAT and best to his family.

Yes. But its fair to wonder -- albeit simultaneously irrelevant -- whether brand considerations would've weighed as much in the decision if WCW were a profitable operation instead of one with mounting losses.

I dig the wild stories. It'd help if his co-host helped reign him in and served as a factchecker (like this week when he said he was wrestling Sting at the Clash the same night as Savage/Steamboat at Mania 3), but I enjoy the flow of the show and his demeanor all the same.

Just waiting for Kurt Angle to turn back the clock and chime in here.