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Too much modern product bashing, not enough old school
WingedEagle replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Forums Feedback
I just got home from vacation and happened across this thread before diving in elsewhere. Having literally just gotten back, I haven't seen Raw or any related WWE tv or anything about the show other than some tweets I caught Monday night. A couple quick hits: 1. It sounds like the Mania build has just about bottomed unless we start looking back to prior generations . That + Mania prominence / March (as Matt D noted above) + the ease with which this dissatisfaction can be voiced can probably make the whole subject overwhelming. 2. That being said, once Mania is over the same void, if you will, of other topics may very well be present. Dylan suggested JVK start a thread on something. The 90s forums are one of the best things about this place. What about building out something for other decades (without stepping on the toes of the 80s projects)? Whether it be individual forums / threads for Horsemen material, PWO versions of threads on All Japan 80s, WWE 2000s, some framework that gives people a launching point? -
Grimmas, maybe you can start another thread that compiles these top 5 picks?
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This is not insignificant. On most, if not all, nights, this means you're basically watching a different show. Usually better, but completely different.
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Exactly, we'll drive ourselves crazy trying to watch a sizable quantity of everyone hyped. Don't want to lose sight of the forest.
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I actually enjoy Wyatt promos at this point because they're an opportunity to mute the show and check out something in the paper or online, go bs with the wife for a few or otherwise take a break from Raw. Hated it for months but I've now been able to make productive use of them. I'm all in.
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I imagine at the end of the day most people won't have seen enough of everybody to really say they can objectively consider everything and everyone. That's the fun of it, you go with what you've seen and what you like. Enjoy the road there!
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Kid can't accept $5K (bumped up from $2500) offer from Ramon to get into the ring with him again knowing the consequences. Nice slow pacing to this angle, all the more impressive considering who was involved.
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[1993-05-29-WCW-Saturday Night] Flair for the Gold: Sting
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Groupie is working on a step up bar, while Flair & Anderson are in jumpsuits. Sting out to talk about Vader. Flair say there are rumors of Sid Vicious coming in, which is surprising since he hasn't debuted. Some kids out with moms and everyone joins in the exercising. Pretty pointless.- 7 replies
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[1993-05-29-SMW-TV] Down and Dirty: Rock & Roll Express and Tammy Fytch
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
RNR promo talking about Cornette & Bodies when Fytch comes out and offers to manage them, saying they don't know much about business because rock is out and rap is in. They turn her down with some Wayne's World schtick and she walks off. -
Bob looks pretty diesel here without a shirt given his age. Finally getting some money promos in this feud and Bob sounds tough even if the glasses and hat don't help things.
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[1993-05-29-USWA-TV] Jennifer on the Road: Jerry Lawler
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Lawler collects Coke memorabilia, and looks like he's wearing scrubs here. He shows her some drawings of himself. Smooth. She seems too old for him even though that seems to be the only point of the segment.- 11 replies
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[1993-05-21-AJPW-Super Power Series] Kenta Kobashi vs Terry Gordy
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Love the post-match with the crowd chanting for Kobashi after what I believe is his first singles win over a top tier star. This was also the best Gordy I've seen during these yearbooks. Does anything of his even approach this until you go back to the '88 tag league finals? From the outset the story here was Kobashi taking this not just as an underdog, but as Gordy's equal. Along the way it felt like Kobashi could take this, but I didn't see him hitting a pair of moonsaults, much less winning with one. Really great way to cleanly establish him at a new level. ****1/4- 13 replies
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I don't blame Jericho. He knows where his bread is buttered, even if he's only coming to the table a few times a year. Why should we expect candor on this topic from someone interested in an income stream from the company?
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I saw his stand up show on Broadway once. Even in his twilight he could still kill a crowd.
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[1993-05-25-ECW-TV] Eddie Gilbert and Tod Gordon / Interview: Terry Funk
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Clips of Gilbert complaining that he has a chain match with Funk even though Paul E never signed a contract. Funk promo with a hard sell for the chain match, saying Philly has seen the best and worst of wrestling, and now they'll see the most violent. -
Doink attacks before the bell, then soils Perfect's towel. Nice legwork by Perfect with a spinning toe hold and posting the knee. The whole Doink character and costume are pretty out there but he really nails the act. Doinks trade places when #1 hits the floor, but #2 immediately takes a Perfectplex for the pin. The pair attack Perfect afterwards before Crush is out for the save. More engaging and interesting than a lot of Perfect's work from this time, but I don't seem to be as big a fan as some others. **3/4
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Such a runaway for feud of the year it isn't even funny. The prematch between these squads with their staredowns is always superb as well. Fujinami got to look like a world beater against Tenryu, albeit briefly, before Tenryu nails Hash from the apron which Hash repays with killer kicks and a DDT. They were all over the place here - Fujinami working submissions, Ishikawa & Tenryu with the big bombs, Hash's stellar strikes. One of my favorite spots was when Hash tagged in you saw on Tenryu's face that he knew some hellacious kicks were coming his way and there was nothing he could do to stop it. Fujinami eventually submits Ishikawa while Hashimoto & Tenryu continue their issue outside. Another excellent that match that continues to build Hashimoto vs. Tenryu as the ultimate conflict in this feud. ***3/4 Other feuds (mainly thinking of the AJPW crew here) exceed the quality of NJPW vs. WAR on a match by match basis, but I don't know that any feud is this much fun.
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This was a good power match between a couple of big boys that just couldn't get over the hump to great. Vader misses a splash on the floor and goes up for Davey's big delayed vertical suplex. Can't say he didn't come to work on this day, bumping and selling very well. We get an absolutely terrible DQ finish following a chair shot. This would've been better if they shaved off some time and went with any kind of clean finish. ***1/4
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[1993-05-23-WCW-Slamboree] Hollywood Blonds vs Dos Hombres (Cage)
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
I don't recall why this is Dos Hombres instead of without the masks, but apparently it has to do with Zenk taking Douglas's place, despite the TV 24 hours before the show promoting Douglas & Steamboat as the challengers. Steamboat takes his mask off late before the other Hombre is pinned. Last few minutes we get are solid. -
Solie mentions legends who have passed and won't be there including Andre, Dick the Bruiser, Gene Anderson and others. Nice intro for Thesz. Verne Gagne next. Then Mr. Wrestling II, who gets a good pop. Final HOFer is Eddie Graham, repped by Mike Graham. Crowd didn't like this and maybe there's no place for it in 1993, but I enjoyed seeing the guys.
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[1993-05-23-WCW-Slamboree] Flair for the Gold: The Four Horsemen
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Windham isn't there because of something Windham pulled. Brings out Arn & Ole as Horsemen. Crowd booing Roma as he comes out. Says the Blondes are going to get Flair in the ring again. Such a huge flop. Pretty incredible they bungled Flair's return to the company this badly. -
Solid, quick tag that sees Eaton & Benoit enter like something out of a Van Damme or Lethal Weapon movie. Bagwell's dancing? Not so much. This was much faster than the in-ring standard for WCW, only really slowing down Bagwell tags in. Scorpio destroys Benoit with a somersault legdrop for the win. ***
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[1993-05-22-WCW-Saturday Night] Vader and Davey Boy Smith
WingedEagle replied to Loss's topic in May 1993
Vader training session where he destroys a few jobbers. Davey Boy out to end it, giving Race a big vertical suplex and then brawling. DBS catches him in the powerslam and lariats and looks like a legit threat. Nice angle heading into the big show.- 6 replies
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