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I know this isn't the point of this discussion, but if we're looking at negative impacts I always thought Foley's was a lot more pronounced with the unprotected head shots and psychotic bumps rather than unnecessary gore, which I'll fully acknowledge is personally beyond unwatchable.
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vs. Misawa/Kobashi 5/21/94 is a personal favorite as it extended the 12/3/93 formula (debate the merits if you must), but this was the first AJPW classic I saw and absolutely hooked me. I think its a must watch before checking out 6/3/94, 6/9/95 of 12/6/96.
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Back from dinner and enjoying the suggestions. Funks vs. Sheik & Abby is great and highly recommended. I watched Abby vs. Billy Robinson earlier on a rec from Childs and it was both different and very good. Would love any further Abby recs. I've queued Ozaki vs. Yagi and am looking forward to that in the morning. Based solely on '90s joshi I can't see Oz coming in lower than my #2 or #3 in that genre but we'll see how things hold up. Kawada & Fuchi vs. Nagata & Iizuka is also great and a legit MOTYC in the mold of an AJPW classic but with a different cast that adds a very different dynamic.
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Abby was definitely the surprise of the Funks' matches. I can't imagine he has any kind of run that gets him in consideration here but I'd love to know what else is worth seeking out. But man did everyone look great in those matches. Can't go wrong with any of them.
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I don't think it was a joke. That was a great 'stache and that's a shoot. But outside of a quick sprint or when in with a Tully or Flair, he's not someone who otherwise left much of an impression for me. I Quit also never clicked here the way it did for others, so he really was just a guy who felt like the Horsemen flavor of the month for a bit and not a whole lot more.
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I haven't watched Kawada/Kobashi in forever but am curious to compare it with Kobashi/Akiyama when I get there. Seeming as how I'm in mid-October 1993 and trying to go chronologically there while also hoping to watch some selections from Best in Japan 2000s and countless others items for the GOAT project, we'll see when we get there. Seeing you bang through '98 in almost under 2 months is either motivating or completely deflating -- haven't decided which! Looking over your thoughts throughout the year, it felt like this year more than any other thus far wasn't all that well represented by the MOTY list. The results and distribution here were no surprise, but it seemed like WWF was far and away the most enjoyable promotion to keep up with on a segment to segment basis even if there were only so many truly elite level matches. It was definitely nice to see that as I remember a lot of the angles and promos from '98 more vividly than other years. I know there are reasons why the consistency and quality of the output varied at later times, even as business peaked in subsequent years, but '98 had the rise of arguably an all time hot babyface, heel and feud at the same time. Just a perfect storm of episodic television.
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I enjoy listening to Meltzer so I downloaded this one for the gym this morning. If you fast forward through Ross's rants its not bad.
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How great can someone be if their talent didn't translate to great matches? I'm not asking facetiously, actually curious how you're resolving that kind of discrepancy.
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Whether you found a match good or great, or bad or average, isn't guesswork. Why it turned out that way absolutely is very much guesswork that can only be somewhat reduced by hearing from the participants, booker and anyone else responsible for laying it out.
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Sounds good, any need to hit them in a particular order or just dive right in? Want to give myself a couple hours of him as an intro. Trying to jump around and hit a bunch of unfamiliar names before eventually going back and digging deeper where I want more.
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I've read a ton about what folks on PWO love about Lawler and have tried to see it for myself, but don't. Can't see him ranking for me.
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Where to start with Rose? He has an extensive thread in the microscope but give me 2-3 good matches and 4-5 greats to check out.
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I loved his matches with Baba in AJPW. They put each other over like kings.
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5/21/94 isn't 6/9/95 or 12/6/96. But it was the first big AJPW match I saw and the one that hooked me. If you're new to their game you won't regret jumping in then. If you want to be comprehensive, start with 6/1/93 and 12/3/93 beforehand.
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YEAH!
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Best Non-WrestleMania Pay-Per-View Ever?
WingedEagle replied to JaymeFuture's topic in Pro Wrestling
Bash '89? Sentimental pick here is Barely Legal, as on that night it felt like the coolest show I'd seen and the ultimate reward for being an ECW fan. But it is no longer that night. -
Night of Champions 2014 (Live as it happens)
WingedEagle replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, there were other ways to get there. At this point though Cena is probably my #2 opponent for Brock at Mania behind Bryan, though safe to say neither is happening.- 173 replies
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- Brock Lesnar
- John Cena
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Night of Champions 2014 (Live as it happens)
WingedEagle replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling
Wouldn't have guessed that Rusev would have better matches with Swagger & Big E. That was a bore.- 173 replies
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- Brock Lesnar
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Night of Champions 2014 (Live as it happens)
WingedEagle replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling
Somebody thought Knowshon Moreno was cool.- 173 replies
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- Brock Lesnar
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Night of Champions 2014 (Live as it happens)
WingedEagle replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling
Not sure if the injury changes things, but it really looks like they'll have to worry about both Ambrose & Bryan crowds hijacking the build to Mania if they insist on sticking with Reigns.- 173 replies
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- Brock Lesnar
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Night of Champions 2014 (Live as it happens)
WingedEagle replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling
The only belt I want to see Miz win is that cursed belt from FMW that kills whoever holds it. You, sir, receive a gold star.- 173 replies
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- Brock Lesnar
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Sounds good. With the holidays this week I will essentially have the afternoons on Thursday & Friday to watch a lot of stuff. Hopefully get to these, a little more Billy Robinson and start on someone else then as well.
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Night of Champions 2014 (Live as it happens)
WingedEagle replied to goodhelmet's topic in Pro Wrestling
Miz vs. Ziggler -- I caught Sandow's entrance because he's awesome. Then I was a good husband and went to say hi to the wife and hang there for a few minutes. Got back to see more of the finish than I'd like, but at least I saw Sandow doing his thing during the celebration. I don't know what you do with him but he makes Miz tolerable and that's some HOF type game.- 173 replies
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- Brock Lesnar
- John Cena
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Not much here. How about 5 average/good and 1-2 greats to start with?
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I'm a sucker for him. He'll rank very highly for me among American workers of the last 20 years.