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We Don't Know Wrestling is going back to its own podcast feed! This will involve some bumps. I am going to be trying to figure out a schedule that works as well as see if we can be more unique with what I am pumping out. Hope you subscribe and enjoy the ride. iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/we-dont-know-wrestling/id1286332925 Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/we-dont-know-wrestling RSS Feed: http://wdkwrestling.libsyn.com/rss

I have to. I want what is best for wrestling. I want it to succeed and I want everyone in the world to watch it. I want every show to sell out and I want everyone to be rich and healthy. I care about wrestling, because I'm going to be around in another 20 years discussing it. Wrestling is a part of me. What if I told you wrestling sucks?

Seems like a moot point as the feed will be ending soon but here is the latest We Don't Know Wrestling and last through Wrestling with Words as the website will be ending soon. https://soundcloud.com/wwwaudio/we-dont-know-wrestling-new-york-state-of-mind

This thread has been good and dead but I am reviving it because well I like indie wrestling and feel there should be a place to discuss and keep up as multiple promotions have popped up and become players since 2015 including: WrestleCircus becoming the premier Texas wrestling promotion now being clearly a step above Inspire as far as drawing and star power Pro Wrestling Revolver being Sami Callihan's vanity project. A mix between big indie names, including BOB HOLLY, and lesser known wrestlers that Sami likes. Plus the rest of the Ohio crew. Glory Pro, headed by #BigMike taking the place of St. Louis Anarchy and taking it up SEVERAL notches. Going to be the platform that puts Curt Stallion on the next level. Has the right people in is corner to be a big name along with Myron Reed. CWF Mid-Atlantic hosts one of the great indie title runs ever with Trevor Lee. Their YouTube show has garnered a ton of praise for those matches and the surrounding booking. Michael Elgin and Sami Callihan have become the two most influential wrestlers in indie wrestling between their individual promotions and showing influence in WrestleCircus and AAW, which is continuing to be on the uptick. Low Ki is in AAW doing good things. Highspots Wrestling Network has gone above and beyond to release footage from top indies like AAW, CZW, and wXw. Their catalog also includes other promotions that likely wouldn't be promoted because of their geographic location like Defy and MLA. PowerbombTV has become Anarchy Wrestling's home and continues to bring in strong partners like Nova Pro and Tier-1. A bunch of other stuff is going on but these all seem pretty notable.

I organize everything in a spreadsheet and I still manage to miss a chunk of stuff when making lists. I am not proud.

At one point it was said in the 400,000 bracket as far as MP3 downloads go. Which does not account for his youtube channel and various bootleg Now lets say he is exaggerating by half, that puts it at 200,000, which GFW struggles to get on cable weekly. Cornette is more relevant than a lot of the guys he slags. The bracket is exaggerated multitudes higher on the MP3 front. Though his rants can pop a number on the tube. which makes sense since that is much more searchable then finding a podcast episode and drilling down to the specific thing you want to hear. EDIT: I'll definitely take the L on thinking he's a brand problem waiting to happen. A second authority figure seems odd regardless in 2017.

How many people do we think listen to Cornette's podcast? EDIT: 36 puts you in a different bracket.

Yeah but look at the source. A generation that thinks they invented women's wrestling and jumping off the top rope in the last two years. No? I don't know what to say other than I assume you are a couple generations later based on your thinking. I know PWO is an older board and all but geeze.

I STILL think there are pockets of fun stuff in there worth watching. Especially with MCMG. Granted if you think they are the pits that'll be a tough sell.

Eli Drake being more interesting than Brian Cage has me reeling. And I don't even think Cage is great or anything. Cage has TONS of bad tendencies. At the end of the day though paint drying is a lot worse than watching things blow up.

To say that Cornette is viewed as anything but out of touch, on multiple levels, by the current generation of fans seems...wrong? EDIT: To the point of contempt.

Ridiculous statement, but whatever. He's back in ? Well, good. You got Mantell, Corny & Prichard in the same company. That's not that bad, all things considered. How is it ridiculous? Current top non-WWE names have openly bashed him. He's made islamaphobic comments in the past. He also did this whole Kenny King thing which has a lot of poor comments http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/1013/602635/jim-cornette-calls-kenny-king-the-biggest-lying-piece-of-sh-t/

Was FORCED out of the TNA thread. Is Global Force Wrestling the Worst Wrestling Promotion of All-Time? Food for thought. Not many good matches. The company's title was won by someone not in the company anymore and don't think he ever lost it. Patron was suspected to be an abuser before winning the title and escalated shortly after winning. Eli Drake is a 9th tier Cali indie wrestler. He's the champ. Oh, Cornette is one of the most maligned names currently in wrestling probably beating out Russo at this point. Now he's an authority figure in the company.

I still don't know the answer to the question. WAS TNA THE WORST?! Plenty of great wrestling took place here. Plenty of bad wrestling took place. Not many good stories. Many bad stories. But many bad stories were meme bad. Tito Ortiz!!! Still one of my favorite wrestling segments of all time. Sure, it wasted a good portion of AJ and Joe's careers but I feel better that they are killing it now. Plus it has provided a place off and on for Low Ki over the years as he has set fire to every bridge possible. Possibly the TNA one more than most yet they kept bringing him back. Was lovely. Where would Sting be without TNA? Truly. HOF in every sense except the WON and that's what matters.

There tbf there is one 81. Dick Togo vs Antonio Honda 1/30/11 DDT

I need new guests and don't know anyone. If you haven't been on the show and would like to please send me a message here or on Twitter.

Either way, I wanna SEE that. New Holy Grail. Screw Atlanta.

Or wait for Loss to debunk databases

Actually posting this close to when the episode dropped so enjoy: https://soundcloud.com/wwwaudio/we-dont-know-wrestling-wdkw100-2017-hype-train-starting Sam is joined by Quentin and Tanner as the breakdown where we are at in the WDKW100 process for the year. Lots of good wrestling and certain people are standing out. Some are sucking. This episode doesn't put a lot of emphasis on lucha which stinks cause I really like lucha. I haven't watched a lot this year though. Life is hard. Anyway, we talk about top contenders in lads having fun years.

https://soundcloud.com/wwwaudio/we-dont-know-dragon-gate-usa-open-the-historic-gate After a lengthy build-up, Case Lowe and myself have finally put aside time to talk the first ever Dragon Gate USA show, Open the Historic Gate. Gabe had a dream and the DG office made it happened. We relive a classic time in indie wrestling. Late to adding this but PWO likes retrospectives so this actually seemed like a thing that might appeal to people here.

I second this. Though this project does sound interesting. I'm still up for making this work somewhere but I think I'd need to find a more static place than the VoW forums where I had started.

I can separate work from the significance of Muto/Chono's importance because I don't have to actually have to watch the match to understand the perception. If you are telling me part of the reason it was such a big deal was the quality then why would I need to make judgement on its artistic merit if that's baked in? Same for a Tanahashi vs. Okada.

Part of the WON HOF discussion isn't about whether Steve Williams is Japanese. If it is this colors that process in an entirely new way.