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How many people do we think listen to Cornette's podcast? EDIT: 36 puts you in a different bracket.

Yeah but look at the source. A generation that thinks they invented women's wrestling and jumping off the top rope in the last two years. No? I don't know what to say other than I assume you are a couple generations later based on your thinking. I know PWO is an older board and all but geeze.

I STILL think there are pockets of fun stuff in there worth watching. Especially with MCMG. Granted if you think they are the pits that'll be a tough sell.

Eli Drake being more interesting than Brian Cage has me reeling. And I don't even think Cage is great or anything. Cage has TONS of bad tendencies. At the end of the day though paint drying is a lot worse than watching things blow up.

To say that Cornette is viewed as anything but out of touch, on multiple levels, by the current generation of fans seems...wrong? EDIT: To the point of contempt.

Ridiculous statement, but whatever. He's back in ? Well, good. You got Mantell, Corny & Prichard in the same company. That's not that bad, all things considered. How is it ridiculous? Current top non-WWE names have openly bashed him. He's made islamaphobic comments in the past. He also did this whole Kenny King thing which has a lot of poor comments http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/1013/602635/jim-cornette-calls-kenny-king-the-biggest-lying-piece-of-sh-t/

Was FORCED out of the TNA thread. Is Global Force Wrestling the Worst Wrestling Promotion of All-Time? Food for thought. Not many good matches. The company's title was won by someone not in the company anymore and don't think he ever lost it. Patron was suspected to be an abuser before winning the title and escalated shortly after winning. Eli Drake is a 9th tier Cali indie wrestler. He's the champ. Oh, Cornette is one of the most maligned names currently in wrestling probably beating out Russo at this point. Now he's an authority figure in the company.

I still don't know the answer to the question. WAS TNA THE WORST?! Plenty of great wrestling took place here. Plenty of bad wrestling took place. Not many good stories. Many bad stories. But many bad stories were meme bad. Tito Ortiz!!! Still one of my favorite wrestling segments of all time. Sure, it wasted a good portion of AJ and Joe's careers but I feel better that they are killing it now. Plus it has provided a place off and on for Low Ki over the years as he has set fire to every bridge possible. Possibly the TNA one more than most yet they kept bringing him back. Was lovely. Where would Sting be without TNA? Truly. HOF in every sense except the WON and that's what matters.

There tbf there is one 81. Dick Togo vs Antonio Honda 1/30/11 DDT

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Either way, I wanna SEE that. New Holy Grail. Screw Atlanta.

Or wait for Loss to debunk databases

Actually posting this close to when the episode dropped so enjoy: https://soundcloud.com/wwwaudio/we-dont-know-wrestling-wdkw100-2017-hype-train-starting Sam is joined by Quentin and Tanner as the breakdown where we are at in the WDKW100 process for the year. Lots of good wrestling and certain people are standing out. Some are sucking. This episode doesn't put a lot of emphasis on lucha which stinks cause I really like lucha. I haven't watched a lot this year though. Life is hard. Anyway, we talk about top contenders in lads having fun years.

https://soundcloud.com/wwwaudio/we-dont-know-dragon-gate-usa-open-the-historic-gate After a lengthy build-up, Case Lowe and myself have finally put aside time to talk the first ever Dragon Gate USA show, Open the Historic Gate. Gabe had a dream and the DG office made it happened. We relive a classic time in indie wrestling. Late to adding this but PWO likes retrospectives so this actually seemed like a thing that might appeal to people here.

I second this. Though this project does sound interesting. I'm still up for making this work somewhere but I think I'd need to find a more static place than the VoW forums where I had started.

I can separate work from the significance of Muto/Chono's importance because I don't have to actually have to watch the match to understand the perception. If you are telling me part of the reason it was such a big deal was the quality then why would I need to make judgement on its artistic merit if that's baked in? Same for a Tanahashi vs. Okada.

Part of the WON HOF discussion isn't about whether Steve Williams is Japanese. If it is this colors that process in an entirely new way.

New update in August will allow you to add MP3s to entrances and background.

If categories were separate for "importance" and "quality" I would not see it as worth engaging in other aspects of a potential case. If you are telling me it is in the importance category the influence and importance matter. If it is in the quality category it comes down to how many stars I would throw at it. To say "these are why these matches are on this ballot" and then say that I am free to consider other pieces to the puzzle seems conflicting. But I'm just one person and don't watch enough wrestling to even be in consideration for the voting pool.

I feel like following up with a short post after your long and thoughtful one is disrespectful but I am naturally a short spoken person. I almost wish there were no categories outside of taped and untaped. As is I am a bit less interested in even discussing matches if I am already being told how to think of them even if the goal is to prevent dismissal with them.

I do agree that "Did not make tape" should be its own bucket. It is only able to go in under one criteria and I think arguments for it become a much different animal at that point. I still think regions can work under this setting. Though it brings up the question is it based on promotion or actual location of the match.

I love that this is getting off the ground but I have qualms with things being separated by what the case is for the match. Maybe I'm comparing it too much to the WONHOF where that's where a lot of the discussion takes place.

I think the scramble would give me less anxiety if I didn't think the four announced names, sorry Bob, would be better in the tournament than Marx, Joey Lynch, Cade, Darby, Dom, or Janela. I really like Dom and Lynch but someone like Matthews, Dean, or Adler feel like the template guys for this tournament. Regional talent that don't wrestle like everyone else. Dom checks off one box.