SteveJRogers

Parv, I mean a show-by-show index, a la Where The Big Boys Play. There are plenty of great shows that I'm sure can cover the entire scope of a year or more of a promotion in one or two shots. Okay, maybe not to the extent that Zellner and the boys did, but that isn't the type of show I was talking about in terms of looking for a companion to WTBPP.

BTW, as far as I know, the PWSS's Extreme Vault appears to be the only ECW index re-watch show, even for the WWECW years. Anyone know of any out there? Also looking for another WWE index show that goes beyond the Attitude run (besides Place to Be of course, now up to the end of 2004). There was one called Ruthless Aggression, but that seems to have podfaded after a few episodes.

These two seem to be winding down in terms of their mandate, but some good WWF in the 1990s index shows: https://soundcloud.com/newgenpodcast New Generation era https://soundcloud.com/the-attitude-era-podcast The Attitude Era

Here is another end of WCW index podcast. http://buttsinseats.libsyn.com/ Still looking for a companion for Where The Big Boys Play, in terms of covering JCP, or the early WCW days through the nWo era since Nitro Cast is on a hiatus.

Found this index show chronicling the end of WCW, from the hiring of Vince Russo And Ed Ferrara, to the bitter end. http://newbloodpod.podbean.com

Can we really put Sheiky Baby in the Hulkamania "era" though. Yeah he was on the cartoon, but he was in the tag team with Volkoff, and then fired soon after because of getting caught doing weed with Duggan. And when he returned, his character name was changed (I don't think they've ever reconciled that Iron Shiek-Col. Mustafa are one and the same in official cannon/record books, ditto Glenn Jaccobs' other characters (joked about though in the Issac Yankem entry of a Countdown episode) or Rikishi as The Sultan).

Some of those will be false positives from his son. You're right, and the Million Dollar Man search would give false positives for Steve Austin. Suddenly surprised THAT'S not where they were headed with the Ringmaster gimmick! Though to be fair, JR, and the t-shirt guys, did briefly try to push "Bionic Redneck" as an Austin nickname, but it seemed way to esoteric for audiences of the late 1990s-early 2000s. I'm pretty sure that elicited quite a bunch of "WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN!?"s in Raw Recaps when Ross dropped it in.

Tall tales (pardon the pun) surrounding Andre, specifically never being body slammed before WM III (he was on plenty of occasions, including by Hogan) and never losing battle royals (often he'd be quickly eliminated actually)

Pretty sure that was a one off in order to do an Abbot and Costello like routine.

HHH doesn't respect Cena? That's news to me. I'll assume that's a reference to the kayfabe build to their WM 22 match.

Also keep in mind Edge's 30 total titles held record for WWWF/WWF/WWE history. Good bet that's a number they'd love to put on Cena as well.

They haven't. Rock N' Wrestling, the two Anthology DVDs in the Beyond The Ring "series," the episodes spotlighting him in WM Rewind and Rivalries are all still up. I'd imagine this is more retooling website articles with damage control (i.e. the same thing with Punk in 2014) and whatnot than the Soviet Union-ization of Chris Benoit.

From what Bryan Alvarez was saying on the new Brian & Vinny drop it sounds like Hogan's "real secret" is getting ready to be dropped and that the FBI was involved. This means its something BIG to warrant the scrub that has been going on... FWIW, Hogan's Rock 'N Wrestling and the two Anthology DVDs, as part of Beyond The Ring, are still up on the Network. Would be hard to go full Benoit here (way too much Hogan specific content since he's been back) if that is the intent.

There has to be more to it than just a blantantly racist rant, right? I mean The Warrior was put into the Hall.

Look at the track list for Austin's Country disc, a lot of tear jerkers on there. So Austin would be my vote.

I think Miz' face run falls into this category. Of course so does horn dog, promo guffawing HOO-RAH Miz...

More to do with being a NASCAR thing than a 'rasslin thing though. I mean using your logic Ricky Bobby could be for Ricky Steamboat & Bobby Heenan just as easily.

-Heroes of Wrestling An early shot at cashing in at the start of the nostalgia craze, but without any rhyme or reason for any of the matches except for convoluted day of show angles. Never mind Jake's performance during the whole night. It's one thing when its a local promotion running a one-off legends show, but this seemed intended on becoming almost like a Seniors Tour sort of gimmick, hence the angles as opposed to "this guy was a legendary heel, this guy was a legendary face, lets have a good exhibition." -nWo Souled Out The first go out it was way over the top of a vanity piece at trying to do something different and pretty much ended any chance that WCW had at making the nWo into an actual "separate brand" the way the WWE would run Raw and Smackdown for several years. Of course it was for the best, but had they started small with say Worldwide or a Clash, maybe the turnoff wouldn't have been so great. -All the Road and Hog/Hogg Wilds What can you say, this was the equivalent of an actor and his buddies getting together for some fun vacation time under the auspices of a film project. The problem was, they weren't getting anything from the venue, never mind getting little, or the wrong reactions from the "fans" around ringside due to the nature of the setup.

I agree, like the rib on calling Carlos Colon a "youngster" in the 1994 Rumble.

Dusty Rhodes as Scott Hall's second/Ted DiBiase's replacement in the nWo. The first and only time he was heel since the West Texas Redneck days. Speaking of DiBiase, his face turn as the Steiner's manager before disappearing after Scott's turn.

Also when it was clear the audience was turning on him in the Jericho and Angle feuds in 2005.

Hmmm, then I wonder why his interpreter (and brother right?) did the Khali segment on the Big Men DVD instead.

Maybe its because I just listened to a podcast that is usually all "Luger is among the worst performers ever, no matter the gimmick/promotion. Why was he always pushed so high on any card?" but it is refreshing to hear Luger talked about in a different tone, and even defended for his business acumen.

Oh I agree, I think my "WWE Official History Hate" sensor may have been on a high calibration.

BTW, going back to what I said about the "Hard Times" promo, maybe its just the overall sentiment that I get from various corners of the internet that because "history is written by the victors" that takes an extra critical look at any official WWE production, and the fallout from it, usually from the bad perspective, to the point where, while yeah there are points where the official "history" is laughably out of touch with reality, anything that is said or done is looked at with a whole grain of salt, even if it isn't warranted. Okay, I know most likely I'm hearing way too much into it, but I don't know, for some reason it seemed the discussion of how "Hard Times" became a "hit" long after the fact seemed to be tinged with a little too much anti-official WWE "version" of history somehow. Despite how I said it seems to be a thing of sorts, especially with film makers like Quentin Tarrantino choosing soundtrack songs, to use an obscure B-Side or album track and all of a sudden the song gets found years after its original release. But, like I said, its probably just me hearing "what I want to hear" based on a lot of anti official WWE historical products I've seen and heard since they've been focusing on the history of the industry with their projects.