Jimmy Redman

Fair point. It's my posh "ahh"s in France and dance. How I reconcile that with using G'day unironically I don't know.

This is what we're in this business for. The kids.

An excellent notion. Ha I was really bad with that in #2. How it goes is that the first ep I was super nervous about being recorded, I'm not a great public speaker and was trying really hard to enunciate and talk properly. Not to mention I'd never spoken to Matt before in my life, nor did I get particularly riled up about anyone in my 90s. With #2, we already had the first one and two really long attempts that didn't get recorded, so by the time we got to this particular chat we'd had hours of conversation and I was a lot more comfortable talking (as well as a little impatient to finally get it done) so you hear my normal speaking patterns come out and I'm like, you know, like sort of, talking kind of like fucking this, because like, you know, I mean, this is basically fucking how I like, fucking talk, you know. Parv said I sounded posh the other day but I really am quite depressingly inelegant out loud. Dave Meltzer and I could have a whole conversation using nothing but umm, ahh and you know.

Speak for yourself! You're not the one who could have voted him into the Top 100!

If there's one thing that should have debunked the hivemind for everyone it's hearing people's individual lists come out, because there's always at least one "You put WHO HOW HIGH??" and "You didn't rank HIM??" on every ballot that makes me think "How on earth did you sneak into PWO again?" Myself included.

Maybe because nobody is that stupid. Last week in her post-match interview she WAS upset. She was devastated, talking about how she let everybody down. But at the end she made the point that champions get back up, and was already talking about winning it back. This week she's had another week to recover, and is almost back to her normal self. She didn't seem exactly the same, a little war-weary maybe, but she's not going to stop smiling and hugging and dancing. She's Bayley, that's who she is: positive, happy. She had a huge setback, but she'll lift her head up and get past it. How long is she supposed to mope for? Izzy and all the little girls are out there waiting to see her, is she going to let them down by sulking about the past? Fuck no! She's going to be the best Bayley she can possibly be, and start working straight away at getting back to the title. It's the kind of reaction that I motherfucking WISH they'd do with Cena. With Cena you never get that nuance, that explanation. He just goes straight to happy without showing you why, so it comes off as stupid.

It's boring as shit when people make these kind of posts that defend one sentence posts that shit on a wrestler instead of encouraging further critical evaluation, even if it is just a way of paraphrasing why someone finds a wrestler boring as shit. It's a message board for crying out loud. Discussion is the whole point of it. And let's not pretend this would be the general (maybe it would still be yours) tone if we were discussing a worker the PWO hivemind (which the results have amusingly enough transcended so far) deemed great. I get the point that it's not exactly conducive to lengthy debate, but my point is that if someone finds a guy boring as shit (Inoki in this case, but really whoever) what more do you expect them to say exactly? As far as complaints go it's a pretty self-evident one, and a personal one. You can't force yourself to not find something boring if it bores you. And I don't think there's really a way to delve into it much more than that. It's like saying the opposite like "I get a kick out of this guy" or whatever. Sometimes you don't know why. He's just exciting. And sometimes they're just boring. On the hivemind shit, I dunno. I think Parv is nuts for shitting on Rey and whatever but I have no problem with him saying something like "I find flippydoes like Rey boring as shit". That's how he feels. Everybody finds something boring, I guarantee it. Again, I get that it's not good for debate, but not everything is. If all someone wants to say about Inoki is that he's boring, then fair enough. Move on to someone who wants to debate specifics.

Steph's failures (if you want to blanket blame her for the entire Creative direction of the last decade or so, and I don't think that's fair while Vince McMahon exists but for the sake of argument) are more immediately apparent and more...annoying, I guess. It's tough sitting through Raw every week. But Dixie's failures are so much wider, and have so many bad repercussions for the wrestling business as a whole. I don't think they are even close. Dixie's ineptitude has slowly destroyed what was a viable, if very, very distant #2 North American wrestling company. They had national TV, PPV, huge stars like Angle, Jeff Hardy, Sting, Hogan going to them, international reach...the works. TNA were always being stupid in some way or another, but they always survived, and actually showed small signs of growth at certain times. They didn't have to end up like this. And once the dominoes started falling, we see at every turn Dixie doing something horrifically dumb (the leaked email nonsense, hiring Russo again and again, even trying to secretly hire him so nobody would get upset and then getting caught (!!), demanding that she remain as an active performer and decision maker and scaring off potential buyers...) that drove nail after nail into what is now the coffin. As people have already said, her fuckups have got them booted off so many TV networks and made it twice as hard for any potential replacement company to get national TV on the same scale they did. They may have actually salted the earth for wrestling companies to follow. Further to that, TNA being a viable alternative could have been - and was at one stage - something that gave wrestlers themselves a little more bargaining power when it comes to WWE. Christian found it safe to walk away in 2005 because he had TNA. Angle and Jeff landed on their feet after their fuckups because TNA would have them. Ageing wrestlers like Booker T and the Duds didn't have to put up with McMahon/Hunter nonsense indefinitely because they could work their twilight years in the ring in TNA making good money. AJ Styles and Samoa Joe didn't have to take miserly developmental deals and low chances for MR success in 2005, because TNA was a place where they could make steady money, get chances to wrestle and stay close to a home base. When Hogan was on the outside looking in at WWE, instead of tucking his tail for Vince he could simply lend his name to TNA instead and try to compete. Not to mention the simple fact of all those people employed by TNA, wrestlers and non-wrestlers alike. For all its faults as a product and an operation, they kept people in business and gave certain wrestlers an outlet. An option. Now they're barely that. Soon they won't be at all. One less option for wrestlers means the world is a little poorer for wrestlers.

I dunno...finding a guy boring as shit seems a perfectly valid complaint to make. I find quite a few guys boring as shit and honestly there aren't many places to go to explain it further other than "it's boring when he does this, does that"... It does not engage or entertain. It's boring. I'm as long-winded as anyone but sometimes few words are needed.

I hope jackwebb pops his head in soon to justify this. The best thing about the countdown and reactions are the times when like people are going "Quack at #6? Show your work!" and that guy proceeds to make a super convincing case for him. Long may it continue.

I predict Andre will fall in the 60s.

I regret ever watching that stupid fucking Shelton Benjamin match!

Henry and Fuerza falling is a hell of a one-two kidney stab.

It's first past the post right? Mark Henry is the GWE!

No I appreciate the pronunciation help. The only time I've heard some of these names spoken aloud is their ring intros, if I'm lucky. Sometimes I feel like resorting to that and just shouting "HOKUTOOOOOO AAAAKIIIIIRAAAAAAAA" for everyone except it would come off as grossly insensitive. I feel like I know how to pronounce them in Japanese but not English, if that makes sense. And cheers for all the info as well.

The way Grim is going on and on about #182 it must be Hunter. So we'll see soon enough.

...Kota. This is a horrible, horrible lie.

It's all about your word choices and sentence structure during the time we spend on him. You can still show off your vocabulary in a short perfunctory speech. EDIT: The ability we all have to remain civil is heartening. Yesterday I was literally bitching at Parv in public while basically saying "please take this hot mess and turn it into a podcast" in private simultaneously.

Can't wait to talk about **1/2 house show matches Matt. Sheamus was my sixth cab off the rank.

Mate that's exactly how I feel and I AM doing a podcast!

Dayum. I was hoping he'd sneak into the top 200.

Yep. I can't justify spending money on wrestling any more.

So guys...can we kind of talk about Charlotte and Natalya lowkey having a damn RINGS match in the middle of Raw?? That was some boss ass shit. Nattie going all faux MMA and Charlotte using her size and the leg picking and taking guard and mounted strikes into a flash armbar to the well placed palm strikes and building up to the duelling submissions to finish...man. That is some good shit. The point in a match where Charlotte goes for multiple pinfalls in desperation and then cries out "Dad!!" in despair is the best part of her act. Also, for how long has Miz been doing shit like doing multiple takes of his promo mid-promo? That's the kind of shit he should have been doing for years.

I think it's similar to how I feel about The Destroyer, that he's doing all these spots that every major heel since has stolen, and if not they're spots that heels SHOULD be stealing. A real kind of prototype for those that followed. So I can see the same kind of argument for George.

Again I'm not talking about the simple fact of having a **1/2 house show match, to put it that way. It's about looking at specific things he's doing within that match, and why they're effective and why they appeal to me and how they speak to Eadie as a worker in general. This all ties nicely back into "it can be about more than just having good matches".