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  1. Jetlag
    Cool list, I appreacite it. You are right on the money about Harley Saito & Eagle Sawai. Rumi Kazama, I'll see about her, altough she is underrated for sure. I will watch all of James Stone & Jumbo Hori I can find now.
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    Pretty much the UWF equivalent to the later RINGS grappling matches. Funaki in his shoes is hilarious. Really enjoyed the early amateur style work especially the toe holds. Then, after some slick but strugglesome grappling Suzuki goes on a tear against Funaki with tight submission attempts only to be caught by surprise. Little too short and sudden to amount to much but I always enjoy a fun undercard match like this.
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    2004.04.11 Fuke vs. Ishikawa GENTARO vs. Kondo [EAGLE All Eagle! Eagle Festival!] 1998-07-05 Asuka/The Bloody vs.Yokota/Kosugi 1994-07-29 Hart vs Flair 1992-12-05 Medvedev vs. Takahashi 2002.01.27 Tamura vs Genki I'll be checking out all these for sure. EDIT: Where was Fuke/Ishikawa? I thought U-Style but it doesn't seem to be in any matchlist. EDIT2: Okay, it's BattlARTS. Did you see that match live or do you have a video?
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    Rah's match is El Hijo Del Santo vs Negro Casas - 12/1/95
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    Reviewed Vader/Misawa: http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/28305-vader-vs-mitsuharu-misawa-ajpw-tokyo-dome-050299/&do=findComment&comment=5832680
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    When I first watched this, I thought this was a contender for the greatest match I'd ever seen. On rewatch, it's not quite at that level, but this is still one of the most memorable lucha bloodbaths. Everything about this match is ridiculously high end: of course the blood is great, but they remind you with every move that they are world class pro wrestlers. One of the greatest DDTs I've ever seen is casually thrown out, both guys throw great punches; Faraon has some cool Mr. Perfect-esque corner bumps (for a dude in his mid 40s). All the basic stuff, like a chest bump into the corner or a backdrop is executed perfectly. There are also some pin combos and dives executed past the capability of most wrestlers on the planet. The layout is strong with Pirata immediately getting the advantage, but Faraon is always fighting back. Pirata tries to grind it out with some holds but Faraon turns the tables on him. Pirata was a total bump freak here including flying over the top to the outside. After Pirata started gushing blood, it was something else to watch him refusing to quit even while close to passing out, and the doctor trying to hold him back. Faraon bashing Pirata's head into the post was such a sick moment and the punch exchange felt epic. You can debate on the ending, but I thought it nailed the story of the match. Near transcendent stuff and one of the finest on Pirata's resume.
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    I swear I already had a review of this somewhere. Ah well. It's Vader/Misawa, so you know what you are getting. Vader previously destroyed Misawa easily in a short match, now he immediately goes to town on the top guy and completely dominates him for the opening of the match, tagging him with fast combos and landing a massive powerbomb on the floor. Misawa comes back pounding Vader's head with his thrusty elbows and sending him over the rope and this is almost like a Vader/Wanz match. It gets back to AJPW soon enough as soon as Vader breaks out the first german suplex and they start running through big moves. I still have no idea how Misawa was able to take those suplex bumps and not die... well, atleast not die right then. Admittedly some of it feels a little dry, such as Misawa just casually setting up Vader on the top rope and hitting a DDT... well, Vader is more that willing to bump his ass off here aswell. Misawa pouncing on the big guy with Elbows on the ground and finishing him with a KO was great though. Just felt a little abrupt. It's Vader in AJPW so it's not exactly his greatest work. He does come across as a beast though, and Misawa sold great. I think if this were a little more strike focussed this could have been epic, but they still delivered what you want from a Dome main event.
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    Good to know I can STILL thrust myself from 6 years ago. This was awesome, bloody and ass-stomping indeed. The cool thing about these 80s main events from germany/austria is that you get to see guys like Slaughter stretch out and do these ultra simplistic carnage ladden main events with no fluff whatsoever. So, after some warm up stalling and heat mongering, this is largely Slaughter wasting Wanz with punches and awesome knees on the ground. We also get Slaughter throwing chairs and bashing a bloody Wanz's head into the glass barrier. The announcer was telling the fans to stay in their seats for their own safety at that point. Wanz didn't get a lot of offense which is not a huge problem, and when he did something Slaughter would bump like a motherfucker. Another strong finish. This type of super minimalist wrestling is not anything that will blow people's minds but still extremely enjoyable.
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    This was in the same style as the March tag and good in the same way, altough not as great and nowhere near as exciting. For some reason, the elements that were very strong in the march tag were not as emphasized here. Hence the action, while good, felt a bit run of the mill and the Ogawa relation to his partner and his opponents was not as pronounced, detracting from the fascination of the matchup. After a somewhat weak transition, Ogawa is isolated for a bit, but it doesn't reach the same intensity and as soon as Misawa tagged in it was back the same old dance. They did finish with a bang, though.
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    I prefer Ogawa spitting water and stepping on Kobashi's face over your generic japanese main event type wrestling. I dunno about the complaints, what the hell did people want to see? A fast paced show? Hell no. Kobashi gets MAD and chops him to death! Ogawa actually sells Kobashi's chops like they really are devastating! Ogawa weasels and rats his way around Kobashi and there are few wrestlers greater at believably controlling a bigger opponent than Ogawa. At no point did it look like Ogawa had an easy time. Ogawa uses every trick in the book including comical amount of heel tactics, even attacking Kobashi's weak leg with the bell because why not? It all comes back to him and this really turns into a full on 1980s US match with Ogawa eating a brutal posting, bleeding and getting punched in the face by a pissed off Kobashi. Kobashi has HAD IT with this punk and his bullshit eye pokes! He is so mad he doesn't even care about bringing the workrate anymore, there is not even a Half Nelson Suplex in this match! Ah well. I thought Kobashi could've done a better job selling his leg, but as it stands this is pretty much the dopest match.
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    IT SAYS GHC CHAMP ON OGAWA'S SHORTS!!! This is about the quintessential Ogawa match, as swamp monster Takayama is coming after him and Rat Boy has to weasel his way out of this without getting murdered. Ogawa is so great in the opening, throwing punches and eye pokes like a ratty, sleazy heel mini Jerry Lawler. Takayama puts a fulls sized ass beating on his undersized ass and about 5 minutes in the match, it seems like Ogawa is done already. Ogawa makes great use of the TREE OF WOE~! does a mighty great control segment on Takayama. My favourite thing about Ogawa here was that everything he was able to do was capitalizing on something else, he was never merely running through his offense. Takayama gets in a SINGLE BLOW which is enough to almost put Ogawa on the shelf and we get a brief but awesome finishing run built around Takayama throwing bombs and Ogawa throwing Rat Boy'isms. Ogawa's bumping was great here as he was just flying around for Takayama and Takayama himself did a great job putting over the champ as a champ.
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    About the first half of this was solid AJPW style action with lots of fun Ogawa-isms thrown in for a breath of fresh air. BURNING rudo it up! Misawa uses lucha moves and comebacks to counter the double teams! Ogawa beats Kobashi in a strike exchange! (apparently the trick is to just punch him). Kobashi rewards him with one of the nastiest stretches ever! The 2nd half was about as great as any AJPW style finishing stretch with Misawa being taken out and Ogawa having to step up big time, and the added bonus of Ogawa's cradles and jawbreakers being a nice change from the usual bombs and stiff movezzz. Plenty of great double team/partner help spots like you only see in those AJPW epics. How they could put all that stuff together so well in a 30 minute match is beyond me, but that's the magic of pro wrestling!
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    IIRC wasn't Trauma II accused of kidnapping and raping his girlfriend? Did anyone care about his matches being streamed? How about Ian himself, who has done many a rotten thing, including paying recovering addicts in drugs? Will people unsubscribe to NJPW World, the WWE Network etc. because of the scummy things some of the workers there have done? If they give in, they might aswell start deleting a quarter of their library. I guess this is a recency bias towards recent scummy things that may or may not have happened.
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    Their previous match in 1995 almost put me to sleep. This was much better and livelier, as it starts hot with Kobashi hitting a wad of big moves to take the green and silver tights man down. Kobashi's opening control segment was fairly great, as he was mixing it up, it's always nice to see a simple move like an arm roll between all th head dumping suplexes and neck chops. Eventually, Misawa cross-eyes Kobashi with an elbow, to which Kobashi responds by trying to attack the arm, but eats an elbow to the wrist for his troubles in a really cool spot. Kobashi quits the arm work, which would turn out to be a mistake as Misawa survived his ongoing destruction and eventually ended up dealing the big elbow blow and then just laying waste to Kobashi with a series of near KOs. The second half of the match was fairly drawn out due to the length and thus a bit of a slog. I also felt the amount of punishment Misawa took was absurd (hey, that's nothing new though) and thus Misawa could have done a better job surviving, instead of relying on his inhumanly high HP. Kobashi's overly theatrical selling was also distracting to say the least. All that said everything here made sense and the finish was suitably epic. Their best match so far and a good continuation of their story.
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    So, am I getting this right? People want Powerbomb.TV dead now? Boycotting them won't hurt Elgin, or IWA... it will hurt all the other companies, and our boy Black Terry Jr., who need exposure.
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    Thanks. Your match is -- Terry Funk vs. Virgil, NWC 10/7/95 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8shykrinpoY&t=1006s
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    Wow, what? I thought this was boring as hell. The least of their matches so far. It was largely a strike based match, which is always nice, but the lay out - Kobashi dominating and getting nearfalls - felt dry at this point and they didn't really do anything to flesh out their ideas here, as opposed to the 93 encounter. It had a few good spots, but so do all of their matches, and for the rest of this there was nothing that hooked me in.
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    I watched the full match. It was a handheld and a pretty fun one where you see everything going on and also get the fan reactions near the camera, which is always really nice. The match started out extremely similiar to their 91 match with Kobashi getting the better of Misawa in a smart way and then hitting a big dive and a DDT on the floor. It follows in the same fashion as the 91 match with Misawa making an easy comeback and some blatant restholds. Kobashi was controlling Misawa more and running through his offense, which I'm not hugely into, but I did like that the match felt as if Kobashi was really trying to play his cards right to beat the man. Finally, the match gets something going when Kobashi desperately tries to avoid Misawa's facelock and goes for the Sleeper in response. I liked that Misawa was basically going for the kill halfway into the match, and it was interesting to watch Kobashi coming up with different ways to stay on the top. The match became more strike heavy which I liked more than Kobashi's bulldogs and all that crap. There was a cool moment where Kobashi hit Misawa in the back of the head with a dropkick and followed up with some big legdrops, and Misawa absolutely brained Kobashi with some elbows. I think the match would've been more epic if Misawa's comebacks hadn't been so easy and Kobashi hadn't thrown out his Moonsault so early. As it stands this feels a lot like a grander upgraded version of the 1991 match with some new stuff thrown in and more intensely fought in parts, so I liked this a lot, but in total I felt like they threw out a little too much and should've stuck more to some of the themes they were working into. The underdog stuff is cool but I would've liked them to emphasize a little more on the in-ring stuff that they did and lost in the shuffle.
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    This was interesting to compare to the handheld junior matches from W*ING in the early 90s. This had a fast beginning with Kobashi blitzing Misawa with a huge dive and a DDT and then Misawa transitioning back to control without much fanfare. We follow this with some "I armlock you some and then you headlock me some" work which was ok but pretty dry. Finally, a good transition gets going when Misawa works his way back to control, but is caught with another DDT in a cool spot. Kobashi follows with a completely unnecessary apron dropkick, no wonder you're a cripple now, dummy. They put on a quality finishing with a few good struggle/reversal spots and Kobashi seemingly having the upper hand on Misawa. I didn't mind the finishing stretch as they were always trying to prevent the other guy from hitting his stuff, so it didn't come across as your turn/my turn.
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    Very basic match, with a great heel tactic at the beginning to set up the Cerebros getting the hell beaten out of them. Lots of stomps to the face and heads getting bashed into chairs, all 4 guys bleeding and bathing the arena in their blood. Black Terry Jr. deserves a Pulitzer price for filming this feud, because his work gives you all the super close ups of terrified bloody faces and the crazy heat this match had. Even the choking, biting etc. came across as genuinely hate filled, adding to the intensity when you had Hijo literally at Terry's throat. They end up working a really fun finishing run with the crowd hugely into Terry, him busting out a cool DDP diamond cutter, Loco taking a moonsault on outstretched legs, crazy Dr. Cerebro dive and all that. Rudos end up playing their cards better and get some more heat afterwards.
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    I think American Luchacore was something like this, run by Sami Callihan and a few other wrestlers. There is lots of DIY / work splitting going on in many independents, with wrestlers doing various tasks to save money, but I'm not sure if this really qualifies as collectivist. I think it may have something to do with most wrestlers not having a clue about all the paperwork and organization that goes into running events, let alone doing it in such a way that they make money. Also, wrestlers are crazy and can't get along.
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    Not everybody likes brawling/deathmatch stuff, so I don't have a hard time believing someone would prefer junior Onita. I'm not a huge fan of the exploding barbedwire stuff myself.
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    Awesome grappling match with the Doctor looking great. Good to know I can thrust myself from 7 years ago on... some things. Some people have talked about how lucha has just as good storytelling or psychology as all the other wrestling... which it doesn't really need to have, because lucha is great as it's own thing. This match gave me the same giddy feeling I get from a high end WoS or shootstyle mat contest, while being it's own thing entirely. Sometimes, you just wanna watch awesome wrestlers roll around on the mat and in the case of mexicans that often involves lots of freaked out wristlocks and rolling surfboard holds and whatnot that you don't see in any other kind of wrestling. And that's why lucha rules and doesn't need to be measured up to a bollocks standard of Flair matches or whatever. You can go on about all the symbols and meaning of all this, with Cerebro carrying a green worker, headbutting him a bit for his trouble and the kid upsetting the veteran some and all that... but in the end, I'll come back for the grappling.
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    Oh, dammit. Now I gotta watch all the BTJr vids they have before the service is gone.
  25. Jetlag
    Are you on the GWE forums? I'm curious why your expectations are so low. Or, I'm being trolled into a reply. I suppose that's possible too. As usual with lists like these, as soon as a collective of individuals is working on it with each vote given the same weight despite the gaps between them in expertise and input of time, you will see a general drop of quality in the outcome as opposed to looking at each list individually and picking out the best one. That is why democracy doesn't work, and the only way get a great or even perfect list is to wait for a monarch or god to bestow it to us, or until it is deduced by scholars from a credible source e.g. the Bible. From what it looks like now, the GWE forums list will have a heavy bias towards 80s/90s stuff. Then you replace all the generic canonized recent NJPW classics in the Reddit list with classic canonized picks e.g. AJPW matches, women's matches and territory stuff, then your outcome is about the same. This is not to smite Reddit users or GWE forums users, since I will participate in the GWE and am looking forward to the outcome. The best type of list, in my opinion, does not aim for accuracy or representation, but rather, hilarity and honesty, as seen in the WKO lists of yore. As far as Onita goes, I remember him vs. Chavo being quietly really good.
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