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Ikeda is not a shootstylist.

I didn't rank Benoit because I don't think he's a great wrestler. It's that simple!!!!

Sano is the one not making the Top 100 that really bugs me. How can you be great in 4 decades and multiple promotions and styles and take part in half the top junior, shootstyle, and NOAH heavyweight matches and not be Top 100 ever? I get not rating Maeda or Inoki or Jaguar, if you don't like their style, but Sano has something for everyone. I think he was in my Top 25.

I will say that I much prefer Tenryu's "chop you in the throat" approach to Chopbashi. Plus Tenryu will punch you in the face too. I can't remember if I had Low Ki on my list. If I did then it was in that low region which is constantly changing. I think his resume is thinner than people admit. Especially in the last couple years, with the constant bridge burning and going back and forth. Love his early stuff with Red though.

Everyone here has watched a Rock match, and most people here haven't seen many Maeda matches. That is probably the real reason. One guy was on TV and having big matches at the peak of wrestling's popularity. The other guy is a shoot style worker that you'd have to scour the internet to watch. It makes perfect sense to me. And this is why the WKO 100 is superior, as we just ban people who don't recognize shootstyle is badass.

So whait, Brian Pillman has snuck into the Top 100? That sneaky fucker.

Can somebody justify Rock over Maeda? I know Maeda vs. Cena at Wrestlemania would have been so much better.

And Grey is out. He climbed 30 spots and made 40 ballots. I guess that's worthy of a celebration. Still, a Top 100 without the greatest british babyface ever doesn't feel right.

Larry Z did extremely well for a guy who was mostly associated with stalling for a while.

What are the good Hogan in WWF matches exactly?

Chigusa's the one joshi wrestler I do not care for at all. Glad she's out, altough joshi fans who know better than me probably think otherwise. Her beating Jaguar is bad enough.

I didn't have Sting on my list but Sting is a ballsy wrestler who has some great matches with Vader, Regal and Foley where he was far from being carried. In fact he may be my favourite Vader opponent. I wouldn't have a problem at all if he made the Top 100.

Another tournament finale between Hamada and Yoshida. This is just a super match. Like god damn these two smoke any other junior in the world. The matwork is super, with Yoshida again fighting like an animal and catching everything Hamada tries. Aside from the crazy submissions you get Yoshida throwing punches and Hamada firing back with some really sharp and well timed offense of her own. Yoshida briefly works over Hamada's stomach a bit and while it wasn't the focus of the match, Hamada sold very well, same for Yoshida with her bandaged arm. Surprised this went only 11 minutes as it felt like a much bigger match.

This went only 7 minutes, but damn what a world class match. Yoshida was just dominating Hamada on the ground here. Absolutely nothing Hamada tried looked easy to get in on Yoshida. Her moments of catching Yoshida looked like something else. Some of the wrestling they did here looked on another level. Also, because Hamada had won the previous tournament match with a flash rollup, all of her rollups here were great nearfalls. Great intro to the tricky Arsion style mix, with Yoshida utilizing shoot submissions and Hamada using her lucha.

Almost half of my ballot is gone now. Starting to wonder who the fuck is gonna be in the Top 100.

What are the best Tommy Rich matches? He's the one guy I didn't check out. All the talk about his great matches not being on tape threw me off.

19 guys have dropped from my list. Feels like it's going to be eviscerated in the next couple days with guys like Navarro and Fuerza that I had very high falling.

There is something very puzzling about a guy like Scott Hall, who people seemed extremely lukewarm on in his thread doing so well and finishing above a lot of guys who had people raving.

It's just that the list right now doesn't make a lick of sense. Osamu Nishimura beats Tomohiro Ishii and Ibushi beats Nishimura and then Pat O'Connor beats them all. And then Sekimoto and... the Big Show? WTF? Right now it's like you tossed a bunch of names into a bag and drew them at random, with some names being twice in the bag. Which is pretty much what happened. I can't imagine a wrestling fan who would agree with all the placements. Maybe I'm just bummed cause Nishimura shoulda made the Top 200. Nish rules. I think I had him higher than the Destroyer.

I love Lizmark. His stuff strikes just the right balance between graceful and forceful. Many wrestlers with graceful stuff come across a little pretty at times, while Lizmark looks like he is really graceful at throwing people very very hard. I guess a wrestler who's main selling points are great neck bridges + great throws + being great in his role is hard to sell, but he's just what I want from a wrestler. I do remember him botching stuff in some matches, so I can see your point. Still, match with La Parka blew my mind when I first saw it, and at that point I had already been exposed to a lot of high end lucha.

BattlARTS has some great southern style tags and junior wrestling aswell as plain shootstyle.

Right now there are about 180 wrestlers listed where I'd gladly sacrifice every single bit of footage they have on tape if it means I could watch more Takeshi Ono matches. By any metric the guy kicks the shit out of anyone else listed. Except maybe Lizmark. Lizmark rules. The challenge I posted in his thread still stands: name a wrestler with a better Top 10 matches. Average vote of 70 for Rick Steiner is nuts. I mean, placing him at 99 when you really need to fill out your ballot, that's fine, but the time spent on this project could have been used to find better talent.

Katsumi Usuda - 35th best wrestler ever. I want to hug the person who did that. I think I'd have him in my Top 5 japanese juniors. Yamada is depressing. Really talented girl, but deserved a better career. Great picture though. Lizmark not cracking the Top 300 is annoying too, altough I've conditioned myself to see the rankings so far as a random assembly of names and not as a legitimate ranking. I know I cut out one really popular name from my list cause Lizmark was better. Great masked technico.

That moment when you were the biggest advocate for a guy, even compiling a big match list, and then you are the low vote on him. Should have been a little more confident placing Greco so he could have atleast beaten Sabre. It makes me really happy that 6 other people voted for him. Great worker. Re Quack, I really think him as #6 isn't outlandish if you are really into him. Considering he has been around extremely long aswell. And, his fake lucha/WoS/M-Pro style is better and more original than the fake fighting spirit style other indy guys do.

I don't mind Quack. Better than a lot of spotty guys, and he has carved out a niche for himself. Much of these low placings have been a mess, so I'm not taking them very seriously.