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Are there any Pat Patterson shoots where he goes into detail about laying out matches? Specifically famous matches generally attributed to him? I've heard some of the boys talk about "sitting down with Pat" to "lay it out" or "come up with the finish" but I can't recall an instance of Pat going into great detail.
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Greatest WWF/E IC Championship Match of All Time?
peachchaos replied to awesomemiz's topic in Pro Wrestling
I remember 3-4 matches from the Valentine-Santana feud from the old Best of the Intercontinental Championship Coliseum VHS. Pretty sure they were all clipped. Would love to see more of this in full, don't think any of it was on the DVDVR WWF set. -
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Yes. His indy work and initial WWF run as the Kid was the stuff of legend. His career never recovered from nWo Syxx, despite some big moments with D-X. Some personal favorites: Sabu vs. The Lightning Kid (NWA - 4-17-93) 123 Kid vs. Blake Beverly (RAW - 5-7-93) 123 Kid. vs. Owen Hart (KOTR - 6-19-94) 123 Kid vs. Bret Hart (WWF Championship, RAW - 7-11-94) 123 Kid vs. Owen Hart (RAW - 8-15-94) 123 Kid & Razor Ramon vs. Shawn Michaels & Diesel (Action Zone - 10-30-94) 123 Kid vs. Hakushi (SummerSlam - 8-7-95) Is there a good comp out there that includes his stuff from PWA/GWF with Jerry Lynn?
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WWF Cage Matches - Attitude Era - Post HIAC (97-2002)
peachchaos replied to Smack2k's topic in Pro Wrestling
2002.5.30 - Kurt Angle vs. Edge - Steel Cage Match - Smackdown -
[1997-08-02-ECW-Monaca, PA] Terry Funk vs Shane Douglas
peachchaos replied to Loss's topic in August 1997
Worth noting that Pittsburg was their biggest venue at the time and after realizing the reaction Douglas received here, ECW booked him to go over at the N2R PPV in front of this crowd. This match is nothing special outside of showcasing Funk's turn-heel-at-the-drop-of-a-dime routine. Douglas...not quite as adaptable, but even in a bizzaro world, The Franchise could never be a smiling babyface. -
another great listen keep it up
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Good match. Did it live up to the hype? I dunno, Taz beat Sabu clean in a solid match with few blown spots. I call it a success. Post-match could have been much better if Fonzie had berated Taz about losing his money, only for Taz to snap, turn face and choke him out with Sabu and Van Dam making the save. Then RVD could've cut his promo. I dunno if they botched the angle, really, because you have the same end result, but yeah that took some steam out of this segment.
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This was championed as a near-classic for years. It's a pretty good showcase, but there's a few blown spots. A hot crowd eats it all up. The match from a few months earlier on Hardcore TV was probably better, but this was still a big moment for both promotions and smart marks everywhere. TAKA and Sausuke show up in WWF a few months later, begging the question of why Paul didn't just use the other guys at some point. I know Hamada and Nainiwa come back, but the real money was on K-BWO.
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There was no need for Reggie Bennett or Big Dick Dudley to be involved in this. Brian Lee should've been used here instead of earlier in the show. Dreamer should've put Lee through the tables and that could've been a nice sendoff. Worth noting that the 3 way ran long and Funk-Raven went on with about 5 minutes left of the PPV, which is probably why it looks so convoluted. There's a great segment from Beyond the Mat which includes a scene backstage of Heyman and the rest of the crew watching the closing moment of Funk-Sandman-Richards. Heyman's freaking out but Raven points out that they're going for the finish. He must have ran out right after that. For years and years I thought the crowd was chanting "HARD-WAY" as some stupid smark nod to Terry's cut. Having seen the build-up and Funk's promos, its pretty amazing to hear them clearly saying "OUR WAY". What a moment. Of course the power goes out right after the show went off the air.
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The segment before this was AXL Rotten vs. Lance Storm. Axl had been tagging with D-Von until the Dudleys became a team and he's pretty terrible here, making everything so obvious and tedious. Bubba even has to tell him where to stand for the "surprise" attack. Lame This really didn't need to make the set.
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They both are parodying Michael Buffer. Weird to think this team was thrown together at the last minute to put over The Eliminators at the PPV and ended up becoming a much bigger deal in the long run.
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Hansen vs. Andre. The Empty Arena Match. The Tupelo Concession Stand Brawl. The Retirement Match (Terry Funk, Savage-Warrior, Michaels-Flair). These are matches you can show to people who have no interest in wrasslin' at all. Either the violence or the drama will hook them.
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found a link
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Quite possibly the most underrated, under-exposed team in the history of the game. Incredible in-ring talents who found a nitch as the gloating but successful foreign heels in All Japan, with a ton of good matches under their belt. They got over pretty well with the ECW crowd before signing with Vince. It really seemed like they would get the chance to revitalize the WWF Tag Team division, and they did have some nice stuff with Owen and Bulldog before losing all their momentum for good, but in the end it wasn't meant to be and they wound up back in ECW before injuries and car accidents forced them into retirement. Performed as a team in AJPW, ECW, WWF, UWA. A record 5-time All Asia Tag Team Champions. Had a cup of coffee with the ECW Tag Team Championship. Awesome ring attire. Literally everything they did in AJPW is worth watching. The ECW stuff from 1996 with Van Dam and Sabu is a lot of fun. They never had a bad match with Owen and Bulldog, and there's even a hidden gem from an MSG show in 1997. Their final run in ECW did not produce anything close to a classic, but I'm a huge fan of their stuff with Mikey and Spike as well as a TV match with Candido and Storm. Has anyone seen their UWA run? So here we go. Let's put the Can-Ams under the microscope. I just noticed Ditch put up the FULL version of their Meltzer-awarded five-star match from 5/25/92 with Kobashi and Kikuchi. Suddenly I can't wait to go home tonight. Did I mention they're my favorite tag team? Did I?
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My first exposure to wrasslin' was the 1992 Royal Rumble on TV at my friend's birthday party. The moment I saw Ric Flair I was a fan for life. All the other kids hated him and wanted Hogan to win, so I just sat back and watched this amazing performance and quietly cheered as Flair schooled the entire roster. So good. And then Mania happened, Savage won the title and somehow I ended up a huge Macho Man fan in the process. The Warrior's return at the end of the show being the coolest thing to ever happen in life up to that point, I begged my Pops to take me to a show, Mom pressed him into it, and the rest is history. I probably went to 10 live events at Rupp during the 90's. Here's the first: This was a Superstars/Prime Time taping, but the highlights were these dark matches. The night dragged and dragged, but luckily these all happened within the first few hours, so I didn't mind leaving early. You can only expect your dad to watch so many Nailz squashes. Michaels/Hart and Savage/Flair were both top notch. I was a total mark for the Warrior, even bringing a sign. THE CURSE was in full effect and this was sort of the only taped match between Warrior and Shango. I was just as into that bullshit as I was the workrate~! warriors. Wouldn't go back until '96 or so, but once I started going on the reg, the shows kept getting better and better. In '97, we were treated to Lawler (God/babyface) against Bret (Canadian crybaby/heel) at the height of the Canada/USA dynamic at Rupp where Lawler worked every week in the 80's. Off the chain. I really thought seeing Austin-Mankind in May 1998 was going to be the highlight of my fandom, but I actually missed the match on purpose as they announced tickets were going on sale for RAW in November. Totally worth it to skip that match, since my brothers and I had ringside seats for Rock-Austin for the title on RAW after Survivor Series, with one of the loudest and most jacked crowds you can imagine.
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Bret Farve. Vikings. BIG fan of this podcast, boys. Can't wait for "Future Wrestling With The Past" episodes.
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My only complaint is that this could be an hour longer. High hopes for Vol. 2, but I'll probably cave and order the DVDVR set since this is clearly some of the best shit ever.
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God help us if Sabu is what wrestling is supposed to be. I do think more credit needs to go to Heyman for how he presented Sabu when he first debuted in ECW. Coming out tied down on a stretcher, wearing a Hannibal Lector mask with 911 as his handler was very effective.
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I'll cop to being a mark for both guys back in the day. My tastes have matured in some ways, but I still enjoy the insanity of the early Sabu matches a great deal. Van Dam really clicked in the WWE setting but fizzled out in TNA. No idea who is better. Both have some strong stuff: 1993.4.17 - Sabu vs. The Lightning Kid - NWA 1996.2.17 - Sabu vs. 2 Cold Scorpio - TV Title, ECW Cyberslam 1996.4.13 - Sabu vs. Mikey Whipreck - ECW Massacre on Queens Blvd. 1997.8.9 - Terry Funk vs. Sabu - No Ropes Barbed Wire, ECW Title, ECW Born to be Wired 1998.1.10 - Sabu vs. The Sandman - Stairway to Hell, ECW House Party '98 1995.6.9 - Rob Van Dam vs. Dan Kroffat - AJPW 1996.8.24 - Rob Van Dam vs. Doug Furnas - ECW Natural Born Killaz 1998.4.4 - Rob Van Dam vs. Bam Bam Bigelow - ECW TV Title 2002.5.27 - Rob Van Dam vs. Eddie Guerrero - WWE IC Title, Ladder Match, RAW 2002.8.25 - Rob Van Dam vs. Chris Benoit, SummerSlam Who carried their tag team? Who looked better in their feud?
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The WWE Mid South set is available at Best Buy, Amazon, and FYE.
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