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So where is this argument going exactly? You're not going to pre-define anybody's criteria for voting, that's up to them. All that can be asked is that they are willing to watch the matches and decide based on that.

Just no. KENTA has one speed, one match and he has to be forced off of it by an extremely determined opponent. Some of his high profile stuff shows how severely bad KENTA was as far as not being willing to change to fit what was happening in a match. Not saying he isn't good at what he does, just that he lacked a lot of what makes a wrestler great.

Ultimo is a guy I loved in the 90s, but anything I've watched that he's done throughout his career in the last couple of years is good at best. And let's not talk about when he's not at his best.

Didn't he have a great match with Fujinami in 1986?

I tried to not hit the ones everyone already knew about. I figured those would be pretty heavily pimped already.

That's part of what made Hansen great. He made his style work with whoever he was in the ring with. For being so simple and direct, Hansen really adapted well to most opponents.

His run in the 2000s was incredible. Smart wrestler who knew his limitations and used them to his advantage as often as not. Once 95 came, his offense caught up with all the intangibles and he became a really incredible worker. He did well in tags and small matches, but Taue really shined in big matches. Here's some stuff worth watching from the 90s. Hansen vs. Taue 7/31/92 Kawada vs. Taue 4/13/93 Kawada/Taue vs. Williams/Gordy 5/20/93 Hansen vs. Taue 4/11/94 Holy Demon Army vs. Hansen/Baba 12/17/94 Misawa/Kobashi/Asako vs. Kawada/Taue/Honda 6/30/95 Kobashi vs. Taue 7/24/95 Taue vs. Kawada 3/31/96 Taue vs. Williams 4/20/96 Kawada vs. Taue 6/7/96 - some great interaction, match gets really dull in the middle Taue vs. Kobashi 7/24/96 Holy Demon Army vs. Williams/Ace 11/18/96 Akiyama vs. Taue 1/20/97 Akiyama vs. Taue 3/29/97 Kawada/Taue/Omori vs. Kobashi/Ace/Patriot 5/18/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 5/27/97 Misawa/Kawada/Hase vs. Kobashi/Taue/Akiyama 9/15/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 10/11/97 Taue vs. Ace 10/21/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Shinzaki/Hayabusa 11/23/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 11/27/97 Kobashi/Ace vs. Holy Demon Army 1/25/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 6/5/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Kakihara/Takayama 7/19/98 Taue/Izumida vs. Albright/Takayama 7/24/98 Kobashi/Ace vs. Taue/Honda 8/23/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Kea 8/29/98 Taue vs. Kobashi 9/11/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Burning 10/11/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Takayama/Kakihara 10/31/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Misawa/Shinzaki 1/15/99 Taue vs. Vader 3/6/99 Kawada/Kobashi vs. Misawa/Taue 6/4/99 - must see Misawa/Akiyama vs. Vader/Taue 1/17/00 Kawada/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kobashi/Shiga 3/11/00 Holy Demon Army vs. Ace/Barton 6/9/00

Vader had some great stuff in All Japan: Hansen/Vader vs. Misawa/Ogawa 11/14/98 Taue vs. Vader 3/6/99 Kobashi vs. Vader 4/16/99 - must see Vader vs. Misawa 5/2/99 - must see Misawa vs. Vader 10/30/99 Misawa/Ogawa vs. Vader/Smith 10/99 - Ogawa gets the ride fo his life on a Vader German Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Vader/Smith/Kea 11/27/99 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Vader/Taue 1/17/00 Akiyama vs. Vader 1/23/00 - Vader runs out of ideas during the finishing run and uses the finish for a nearfall Kobashi vs. Vader 2/27/00

He does have some good stuff from 90s AJPW also: Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Takayama/Kakihara 4/98 Kobashi/Ace/Hase vs. Albright/Takayama/Kakihara 7/18/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Takayama/Kakihara 10/31/98 Kawada vs. Takayama 7/17/99 Misawa vs. Takayama 9/4/99 Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Takayama/Omori/Fuchi 10/9/99 Kobashi vs. Takayama 5/26/00

A list of the 90s matches I liked with Akiyama: Hansen vs. Akiyama 9/24/94 Kawada vs. Akiyama 3/21/95 Misawa vs. Akiyama 4/8/95 Kobashi/Hansen/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Ace/Omori 4/15/95 Misawa/Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Kikuchi/Ogawa 7/8/95 Williams/Ace vs. Misawa/Akiyama 6/7/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Ace 9/5/96 Williams/Ace vs. Misawa/Akiyama 11/16/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kobashi/Patriot 11/22/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Ace 11/30/96 actually, just watch anything he did in 1996 Akiyama vs. Taue 1/20/97 Akiyama vs. Taue 3/29/97 Kobashi vs. Akiyama 3/30/97 Akiyama vs. Misawa 5/27/97 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Albright 8/25/97 Misawa/Kawada/Hase vs. Kobashi/Taue/Akiyama 9/15/97 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Johnny Smith/Wolf Hawkfield 11/17/97 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kobashi/Ace 11/23/97 Misawa vs. Akiyama 1/26/98 Kobashi/Ace/Smith vs. Misawa/Akiyama/Kea 2/14/98 Kawada vs. Akiyama 3/26/98 Kobashi vs. Akiyama 3/98 Champions Carnival Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Takayama/Kakihara 4/98 Akiyama vs. Hase 5/1/98 Akiyama vs. Kea 7/18/98 - Akiyama working from above for once Kobashi/Kea vs. Akiyama/Hase 7/19/98 Akiyama vs. Kobashi 7/24/98 Misawa/Akiyama/Asako vs. Kobashi/Omori/Ogawa 8/23/98 Akiyama vs. Ogawa 9/11/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Burning 10/11/98 Burning vs. the Untouchables (Misawa/Ogawa) 3/6/99 Kobashi vs. Akiyama 3/99 CC Burning vs. Vader/Albright 7/23/99 Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Ace/Barton/Kea 8/29/99 Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Takayama/Omori/Fuchi 10/9/99 Burning vs. the Untouchables 10/23/99 Burning vs. No Fear 10/30/99 Burning vs. Untouchables 11/20/99 Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Vader/Smith/Kea 11/27/99 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Vader/Taue 1/17/00 Akiyama vs. Vader 1/23/00 Akiyama vs. Shiga 3/11/00 - again, Akiyama working a guy way lower Kobashi/Shiga vs. Akiyama/Kea 6/9/00

Misawa matches I enjoyed (or did not) from the 90s: Misawa vs. Hansen 7/27/90 Misawa/Kawada vs. Gordy/Williams 7/24/91 Hansen vs. Misawa 8/22/92 Misawa/Kawada vs. Williams/Gordy 1/30/93 Misawa vs. Kawada 3/27/93 Misawa/Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue/Ogawa 7/2/93 Misawa vs. Kawada 4/11/94 Kobashi vs. Misawa 3/26/95 Misawa vs. Akiyama 4/8/95 Misawa/Kobashi/Asako vs. Kawada/Taue/Honda 6/30/95 Misawa/Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Kikuchi/Ogawa 7/8/95 - pissed off Misawa! Kobashi vs. Misawa 10/25/95 - this one gets me because it starts the really bad trends that Misawa and Kobashi continue on and off, it was necessary when it was done because of the difference in stature between the two though Misawa vs. Kobashi 3/31/96 Williams/Ace vs. Misawa/Akiyama 6/7/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Ace 9/5/96 Williams/Ace vs. Misawa/Akiyama 11/16/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kobashi/Patriot 11/22/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Ace 11/30/96 Misawa vs. Kawada 4/2/97 Akiyama vs. Misawa 5/27/97 Misawa vs. Kawada 6/6/97 - finish derails an otherwise great match Misawa/Akiyama vs. Williams/Albright 8/25/97 Misawa/Kawada/Hase vs. Kobashi/Taue/Akiyama 9/15/97 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Johnny Smith/Wolf Hawkfield 11/17/97 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kobashi/Ace 11/23/97 RWTL Misawa vs. Akiyama 1/26/98 Kobashi/Ace/Smith vs. Misawa/Akiyama/Kea 2/14/98 Misawa/Akiyama/Asako vs. Kobashi/Omori/Ogawa 8/23/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Misawa/Shinzaki 1/15/99 Burning vs. the Untouchables (Misawa/Ogawa) 3/6/99 Vader vs. Misawa 5/2/99 - must see Kawada/Kobashi vs. Misawa/Taue 6/4/99 - must see Misawa vs. Kobashi 6/11/99 - odd match that works until they just cycle through their bobms for nearfalls Misawa vs. Takayama 9/4/99 Burning vs. the Untouchables 10/23/99 Misawa vs. Vader 10/30/99 Misawa/Ogawa vs. Vader/Smith 11/99 Burning vs. Untouchables 11/20/99 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Vader/Taue 1/17/00 Kawada/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kobashi/Shiga 3/11/00 Kobashi vs. Misawa 4/2000 Champion Carnival

Here's my list of 90s All Japan matches that I enjoyed featuring Stan Hansen: Misawa vs. Hansen 7/27/90 Misawa/Kawada vs. Hansen/Spivey 11/16/91 Hansen vs. Taue 7/31/92 Hansen vs. Misawa 8/22/92 Hansen vs. Kobashi 4/16/93 - handheld, must see Hansen vs. Kobashi 4/10/94 Hansen vs. Taue 4/11/94 Hansen vs. Williams 4/14/94 Hansen vs. Akiyama 9/24/94 Holy Demon Army vs. Hansen/Baba 12/17/94 Kobashi/Hansen/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Ace/Omori 4/15/95 Hansen/Taue vs. Burning 12/3/99 - Hansen and Taue as huge babyfaces, love it Hansen/Kea vs. Kawada/Tenryu 7/23/00 - Hansen again as a babyface

Here's my list, with negatives noted: Kawada vs. Kobashi 7/1/89 TM2 vs. Kobasi 3/6/90 Kawada vs. Kobashi 6/30/90 Misawa vs. Kobashi 4/5/91 - handheld Kawada vs. Kobashi 3/20/92 Kobashi vs. Misawa 4/12/93 Hansen vs. Kobashi 4/16/93 - handheld, must see Kawada vs. Kobashi 10/23/93 Hansen vs. Kobashi 4/10/94 Kobashi vs. Kawada 1/19/95 - first 40 minutes is incredible Kobashi vs. Misawa 3/26/95 Kawada vs. Kobashi 4/13/95 Kobashi/Hansen/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Ace/Omori 4/15/95 Kobashi vs. Ace 5/26/95 Misawa/Kobashi/Asako vs. Kawada/Taue/Honda 6/30/95 Misawa/Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Kikuchi/Ogawa 7/8/95 Kobashi vs. Taue 7/24/95 Kobashi vs. Misawa 10/25/95 - Kobashi takes a lot of bad things from this and keeps doing them Misawa vs. Kobashi 3/31/96 Kawada vs. Kobashi 5/24/96 - Kobashi repeating a nearfall so he gets a pop REALLY annoys me Taue vs. Kobashi 7/24/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kobashi/Patriot 11/22/96 Kobashi vs. Akiyama 3/30/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 5/27/97 - Kobashi overdoing fighting spirit, he gets worse though Kobashi vs. Hase 8/25/97 Misawa/Kawada/Hase vs. Kobashi/Taue/Akiyama 9/15/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 10/11/97 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kobashi/Ace 11/23/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 11/27/97 Kobashi/Ace vs. Holy Demon Army 1/25/98 Kobashi/Ace/Smith vs. Misawa/Akiyama/Kea 2/14/98 Kobashi vs. Akiyama 3/98 Champion Carnival - does Kobashi really need to drop Akiyama on his head more than once in 98? Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Takayama/Kakihara 4/98? Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 6/5/98 Kobashi vs. Kakihara 7/15/98 Kobashi/Ace/Hase vs. Albright/Takayama/Kakihara 7/18/98 Kobashi/Kea vs. Akiyama/Hase 7/19/98 Akiyama vs. Kobashi 7/24/98 - more head drops for Akiyama this time around Kobashi/Ace vs. Taue/Honda 8/23/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Kea 8/29/98 Taue vs. Kobashi 9/11/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Burning 10/11/98 Burning vs. the Untouchables (Misawa/Ogawa) 3/6/99 Kobashi vs. Akiyama 3/99 CC - anyone else seeing the pattern with head drops and Akiyama? Kobashi vs. Vader 4/16/99 - must see Kawada/Kobashi vs. Misawa/Taue 6/4/99 - must see Misawa vs. Kobashi 6/11/99 - odd match that works until they just cycle through their bobms for nearfalls Burning vs. Ace/Bart Gunn 6/9/99 - Kobashi feels the need to kill Gunn with a half nelson, so very necessary No Fear vs. Kobashi/Shiga 7/4/99 Kobashi vs. Kakihara 7/16/99 Burning vs. Vader/Albright 7/23/99 Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Ace/Barton/Mossman(Kea) 8/29/99 Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Takayama/Omori/Fuchi 10/9/99 Burning vs. the Untouchables 10/23/99 Burning vs. No Fear 10/30/99 Burning vs. Untouchables 11/20/99 Kobashi/Akiyama/Shiga vs. Vader/Smith/Kea 11/27/99 Kawada vs. Kobashi 1/17/00 - Kobashi's selling is really weak and the match floats around between who is higher up on the card, odd match, also Kawada's return from injury Kobashi vs. Vader 2/27/00 Kawada/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kobashi/Shiga 3/11/00 Kobashi vs. Smith 4/10/00 Kobashi vs. Misawa 4/2000 Kobashi vs. Takayama 5/26/00 Kobashi/Shiga vs. Akiyama/Kea 6/9/00 - again with the half nelsons, he killed that move so badly

Anything featuring Tenryu from the 2000s is a great one-time watch. He brings something only he can to all of the matches I watched him in during that project. He was one of the top 5 workers in Japan in the 2000s in his 50s. If that's not worth a vote somewhere in the top 100 I'm not sure what is.

I put together a list by wrestler of matches from my AJPW 90s watchings. I tried to stay away from the heavily pimped early 90s stuff and hit more the less talked-about matches and a lot of the stuff from late 90s that was actually pretty good. I have the list by wrestler with one after the other (and doubled up match listings). Would it be best to put this in the individual thread for each wrestler or have a separate thread for this kind of deal?

I'd have to watch a lot of his later WWE stuff, because his WCW and Japan juniors stuff does not age well for me. As a character he was great, but his in-ring work was not at the right level for me.

Hansen and Kawada vying for number 1 here, with Flair and Misawa close behind. I need to catch up on lots of territories/80s and 90s WWE/WCW stuff and lucha though. Santo could easily be up there from what I've seen.

Short run as a main eventer, but he made it into a really great run. Watching his matches from 2002-2009 I really started to love the guy. I can't say he'd be top 50, but he'd definitely have a shot at bottom half.

There's a lot of really great Akiyama matches out there, but there are a few that I think are the cream of the crop. Misawa vs. Akiyama 2/27/00 - this is the best match out of All japan since late 1998, and probably the best match of Akiyama's career Anything pitting Kawada vs. Akiyama in 1996 Akiyama vs. Ogawa 9/11/98 - yes, Yoshinari Ogawa in 1998, learn to love him the 8/98 6 man tag is an excellent lead-in Akiyama vs. Shibata 8/4/05 - beginning of the match is 100% gold, PISSED OFF Akiyama, last 7-8 minutes is forgettable Akiyama vs. Taue 1/22/06 Akiyama/Tenryu vs. Kobashi/Shiozaki 4/24/05 Akiyama/Tenryu vs. Kobashi/Taue 9/18/05 - Revolution 05 is great, wish it had lasted

Kawada is an incredible wrestler and I think he's gotta be top 5. However, most of what I've seen post-2000 involving Kawada is almost like he's a shadow of his former self. I don't know if he just lost all motivation or he felt like he didn't want to carry guys like Kojima through matches, but his work really fell off after the split. Especially his selling, it got really, really uneven and sometimes nonexistent. Even the 05 Misawa match was really, really subpar as Misawa vs. Kawada matches go on both their parts. Pre-split, he had really fun matches with guys like Albright, a pre-big break Takayama and Kakihara that were vastly different from the matches he had with the rest of the Big 5. Also, his 1996 feuding with Akiyama was easily the best yearlong watch going through All Japan after 1995. It was a huge bright spot for late 90s All Japan. Here's my 90s list for Kawada: Misawa/Kawada vs. Gordy/Williams 7/24/91 Kawada vs. Jumbo 10/24/91 Misawa/Kawada vs. Williams/Gordy 1/30/93 Misawa vs. Kawada 3/27/93 Kawada vs. Taue 4/13/93 Kawada/Taue vs. Williams/Gordy 5/20/93 Misawa/Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue/Ogawa 7/2/93 Kawada vs. Kobashi 10/23/93 Misawa vs. Kawada 4/11/94 Holy Demon Army vs. Hansen/Baba 12/17/94 Kawada vs. Kobashi 1/19/95 - first 40 minutes is incredible Kawada vs. Akiyama 3/21/95 Kawada vs. Kobashi 4/13/95 Kobashi/Hansen/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Ace/Omori 4/15/95 Misawa/Kobashi/Asako vs. Kawada/Taue/Honda 6/30/95 Misawa/Kobashi/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Kikuchi/Ogawa 7/8/95 - Kawada pisses Misawa off with great results Taue vs. Kawada 3/31/96 Kawada vs. Kobashi 5/24/96 Kawada vs. Taue 6/7/96 - some great interaction, match gets really dull in the middle Holy Demon Army vs. Williams/Ace 11/18/96 anything involving Kawada vs. Akiyama in 1996, just watch it Misawa vs. Kawada 4/2/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 5/27/97 Misawa vs. Kawada 6/6/97 - finish derails an otherwise great match Misawa/Kawada/Hase vs. Kobashi/Taue/Akiyama 9/15/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 10/11/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Shinzaki/Hayabusa 11/23/97 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 11/27/97 Kobashi/Ace vs. Holy Demon Army 1/25/98 Kawada vs. Akiyama 3/26/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Ace 6/5/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Kakihara/Takayama 7/19/98 Kawada/Omori vs. Hase/Kea 7/24/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Kobashi/Kea 8/29/98 Kawada vs. Kakihara 9/11/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Burning 10/11/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Takayama/Kakihara 10/31/98 Holy Demon Army vs. Misawa/Shinzaki 1/15/99 Hase vs. Kawada 5/2/99 - Kawada's first match back after the arm injury, ring rust kills a lot of what could have been Kawada/Kobashi vs. Misawa/Taue 6/4/99 - must see Kawada vs. Takayama 7/17/99 Kawada vs. Kobashi 1/17/00 Kawada/Taue/Fuchi vs. Misawa/Kobashi/Shiga 3/11/00 Holy Demon Army vs. Ace/Barton 6/9/00

Takayama vs. Sasaki 8/3/02 - great battle of the big men, better one in 2004, works off of this Takayama vs. Sasaki 8/8/04 Sasaki vs. Kawada 4/4/01 - not my favorite, but there's lots of good stuff here Sasaki/Morishima/Nakajima vs. Tenryu/Ogawa/Kotaro Suzuki - not the greatest match you will ever see, but a different setting and a different Sasaki As for negatives: anything involving both Kobashi and Sasaki, I hope you like chops....a lot

So much to say here... As far as the positives go, Kobashi has so many. He always seemed in great shape and had the drive to keep going well past the point most would have mailed it in. Kobashi had such a diverse and impressive moveset that was always well-executed. He was pretty athletic for a guy built the way he was, even after multiple knee surgeries. His facial expressions and ability to get the crowd into the match with his own emotions was something that went above and beyond what most wrestlers could ever dream of doing. I have no issue at all saying Kenta Kobashi was one of the best and most natural babyfaces in all of wrestling anywhere. When he was in trouble, you'd hear and see fan reactions (in Japanese crowds) that were stunning. And now to my favorite part about Kenta Kobashi. He was one of the best matwork guys I've ever seen. You know how I mentioned he always had drive and had a lot in the tank? Kobashi never sat in a hold real long. He worked that hold for maybe 30 seconds to a minute and chained it into another hold that hit that same bodypart. Sometimes 3 or 4 times in sequence. And t never looked like he just had his way with the opponent, it looked like there was a struggle going on. If there is one real huge downfall to the way All Japan wrestling style evolved in the 90s it's that we never got to see Kobashi use that aspect of his skillset. As for the negatives, he has a few of those too. First and foremost is his complete lack of being able to build a match on his own. When he's in the ring with somebody he knows can structure a match well (Kawada, Taue, Takayama, Misawa, Ogawa), Kobashi's spots come where they ought to and he looks great. When he's in the ring with somebody he doesn't trust (Akiyama stands out here), Kobashi really struggles to put his spots where they need to be. He'll throw 2 or 3 half nelson suplexes at a guy who is two or three tiers below him on the card. He'll no-sell their big moves at the very wrong times. Part of the problem is he subscribes to the lazy Misawa style of match structuring after 1/97 without really being the guy to do that or truly understanding it. The constant need for attention can really take away from a match where Kobashi isn't supposed to be the center of attention. When you get to 2004 and on Kobashi, a lot of his matches revolve around him beating the shit out of people with chop variations (I maintain that the way he chops is a bit dickish and he probably should have stuck to the standard method) with little to no selling. It just underlines his lack of understanding of the basic structuring of things combined with being a glory hog. He seems to not get that he is at his best as the babyface making the impassioned comeback after taking a beating (and acting like that beating took place so the crowd can invest in it) in addition to wanting to be seen in the best light possible. It's very frustrating to watch knowing what the man is capable of. I'll try to put together a list of positive and negative matches (for me) from what I've seen that point out the things I've mentioned.

One match that shouldn't fall under the radar is the excellent 2006 2/3 falls match with Nishimura in MUGA. It's really incredible for how compact and efficient it is while still telling the story they meant to tell.

Watch as much of the Liger vs. Kikuchi series of tags as you can on this one. A few in 2002 and 2003 are incredible for the atmosphere alone. Liger brings something to these that I don't think any other junior in Japan could have.

Ohtani/Takaiwa 6/25/00 Kikuchi/Kanemaru vs. Liger/Kanemoto 1/26/03 - Kanemoto as FIP for a bit is a different twist Kanemoto vs. AKIRA 3/23/03 - not perfect, but avoids a lot of the stuff that makes 2000s wrestling hard to watch for me Nishimura vs. Kanemoto 8/8/04 This for me is one that goes against Koji Kanemoto vs. Nagata 8/12/06 - good up to the point he starts cycling through his big offense regardless of the match structure beforehand