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In this instance though, if Mid South wasn't picked up or taken it would merge with Georgia which would allow the roster pick ups and such is what I am saying. My stance, as stated earlier is that I want a bigger roster and want to make sure it is done the right way with no loopholes. The current barriers prohibit that from happening so I want to try and figure out a way to get out of this what I'd like in order to continue and be successful.

So at this point, I could take over Georgia, merge it with Mid South, create my ideal roster, and be run as GCW?

I don't think anything has been "constantly" changed, but with this current scenario, a precedent should be set and agreed upon by those who are still willing and committed to the overall production of the project. Like Dawho said, we won't all be happy with this outcome but there has to be some sort of mutual ground. The interesting notion would be how it would be handled if an individual, like for instance Goc took over WCCW instead, would his Southwest Roster be absorbed into Mid South then? Would Alabama go backwards in the order and take over Georgia what would happen to his roster he's accumulated?

Outside of Houston, New Orleans, and Oklahoma City, I could care less about towns.

. That would be my steer as we've used this process before, and is the most realistic no? I don't think it is as realistic as it has been sold to the public. I am all for a draft due to the same reasons El Boricua doesn't want to take the Florida guys. It is no secret that I want to expand and these parameters do not allow for that and in all reality limit our ability to grow unless the person in front of us dies. No offense to Goc, but he is staying around with Southwest, so therefore something tragic would have to happen in order for me to ever get than influx of talent to make my promotion grow, which limits why I would want to keep going in the first place. I want to build a roster and create a cult/nationalized style much like the WWF, Crockett, and Watts did in the mid 80s but this doesn't allow that to happen. If we are putting forth that talent will never be drafted, I would rethink my stance and what the future would hold. I am not taking my ball and going home, but simply stating that if I am not allowed to grow (outside of numerous talent trades, which we have seen become ineffective due to inactivity), I don't see the overall purpose of continuing. Much like the REAL world did if we look at things in that sense, the individuals who did the most got the most, Vince and Crockett made the most money and picked up the talent they wanted to grow regardless of where they were geographically. This is also very true, wouldn't you pick up WCCW? I wouldn't because Goc is in line for Dallas and I am in line for San Antonio. If Goc were to pass then I would, but there in lies the entirety of the issue with someone having to give up in order for another to get something which isn't the easiest line to cross.

. That would be my steer as we've used this process before, and is the most realistic no? I don't think it is as realistic as it has been sold to the public. I am all for a draft due to the same reasons El Boricua doesn't want to take the Florida guys. It is no secret that I want to expand and these parameters do not allow for that and in all reality limit our ability to grow unless the person in front of us dies. No offense to Goc, but he is staying around with Southwest, so therefore something tragic would have to happen in order for me to ever get than influx of talent to make my promotion grow, which limits why I would want to keep going in the first place. I want to build a roster and create a cult/nationalized style much like the WWF, Crockett, and Watts did in the mid 80s but this doesn't allow that to happen. If we are putting forth that talent will never be drafted, I would rethink my stance and what the future would hold. I am not taking my ball and going home, but simply stating that if I am not allowed to grow (outside of numerous talent trades, which we have seen become ineffective due to inactivity), I don't see the overall purpose of continuing. Much like the REAL world did if we look at things in that sense, the individuals who did the most got the most, Vince and Crockett made the most money and picked up the talent they wanted to grow regardless of where they were geographically.

While we are on this topic, I would also like to ask about us who are active switching promotions. Since there are open promotions, wouldn't those of us running a promotion have the ability to to swap promotions and switch if we wanted?

So are we staying that there is no disposal draft of this town and that the individuals to pick them up will be able to keep all the original town, and if the promotion is not pick up it wouldn't be merge into the next promotion?

So in reality, the new guys would have a choice of Georgia, Florida, ICW, and World Class (and WWA if they don't respond)? Would they choose 5 guys from that current roster to keep and then the rest to the mega draft? Then they would build their rosters from that? Or Would it be if someone wanted to take over, would they get the roster as is? Then whomever isn't picked (The other two promotions) get merged in line or into a mega draft?

As if this is the reason why we have issues. Get over yourself. Yes. No one else had to pass any kind of test to become a booker here. As far as I can recall you didn't have any posts outside of shilling your podcast before you started this project. That's true and while I did serve as a booker for MACW and backed up my credibility with information from another board, along with knowing Grimmas and others, I can see your point. However since I have been here, I have posted consistently and been a productive member of the group and attempted to help move things forward than go backwards. Like I said, it was simply an opinion... you state yours over and over and while I disagree with you vehemently on most everything, you are entitled to it. I have tried to settle our differences through PM but you have blocked and ignored and continue to make them public. You continue to be passive aggressive with your signatures and other issues that you bring up. You have simply ceased being productive in my eyes towards this project which is weird because there is history of you posting about how individuals should only have 30 days yet you retract those statements now. My simple reason for what I said was that due to my history of doing this and running a project like this is that people come and go and it is good to get them hooked in before moving forward. With the individuals being new members, it is simply a precaution to prevent scenarios such as the one we have one right now with inactive and defunct promotions. I think we are moving away from what the issue is. Can we move back to that, some promotions are inactive, Georgia and Florida, lets create a poll for how we dissolve them or give them to others. 4 options I see... - Territory take over as per we have done twice before. Ill likely take the people i want from Georgia (Which isnt many) and then give up a portion of my new joined territory to kevinmcfl as he has been very forthcoming in PM's around running Alabama for me. - Two new guys get to pick 5 wrestlers each for either promotion they choose and then we draft then we go into a draft with everyone left. - The two new guys have to prove themselves, kevinmcfl is in my Alabama development, 4 weeks enough to prove it? - The two new guys get to choose either Florida or Georgia and go from there. These are good options. I think the developmental system is a great idea and if you can run with it for the time being it works. We'd just need to figure out where the other guy could do his development. I would happily offer some guys from Mid South if some of the other locals around the area could for a developmental project for 3-4 weeks. I am on board with the new guys taking 5 total players from the board and the rest being drafted as well.

I am not by any word King of the project but by doing this for the past 7 years, I'd like to think I have some good input, whether you like it or not. I simply stated my opinion and you didn't like it. You have been rude and disrespectful to me and others and that is who you are and it is frustrating that we have other things to work on here but you continue to delineate the conversation towards your attention. Please stop.

Yes. No one else had to pass any kind of test to become a booker here. As far as I can recall you didn't have any posts outside of shilling your podcast before you started this project. That's true and while I did serve as a booker for MACW and backed up my credibility with information from another board, along with knowing Grimmas and others, I can see your point. However since I have been here, I have posted consistently and been a productive member of the group and attempted to help move things forward than go backwards. Like I said, it was simply an opinion... you state yours over and over and while I disagree with you vehemently on most everything, you are entitled to it. I have tried to settle our differences through PM but you have blocked and ignored and continue to make them public. You continue to be passive aggressive with your signatures and other issues that you bring up. You have simply ceased being productive in my eyes towards this project which is weird because there is history of you posting about how individuals should only have 30 days yet you retract those statements now. My simple reason for what I said was that due to my history of doing this and running a project like this is that people come and go and it is good to get them hooked in before moving forward. With the individuals being new members, it is simply a precaution to prevent scenarios such as the one we have one right now with inactive and defunct promotions.

I know there's some frustration there and I can say that if we do the dispersal draft and allow people to expand who want to, I am all in to continue running. I know I have deals and plans through to the new year and want to see them come to fruition. Also, with a "draft" per say, we could continue to build that free agent list for individuals to find work and be booked through the developmental in Alabama and one I would like to open in the future.

Mid south Wwf Macw Maple Leaf Awa Stampede Southeast Southwest Vancouver Memphis Puerto Rico Are all in Georgia Florida Are out WWA, Icw & world class have yet to respond unless I missed something. And I have to edit this, WWA hasn't responded on here so I want to make sure he's in even though he just posted a couple of days ago.

If we do a draft an are able to expand our rosters and overall promotion size - (TEW - regional to cult) I would be all about opening up some type of developmental promotion. I think it would be a great project.

Much like when i took over Mid South - if the promotion gets absorbed hopefully that person who took control would agree with those deals. I would think the same thing if we were to go with a draft (HOPEFULLY) and whomever took over that person would also adhere to the plan set in place. For the most part, I think there are some of us who can be trustworthy with these kinds of things so it shouldn't be an issue.

I will express my opinion one more time... one big re-shuffle draft. Put everyone from these promotions into a draft and let us go through it like we did with the initial draft. The merger idea is good but this is an option to appease most. With the draft, you have the choice not to draft anyone, but those of us who are looking to expand simply can't due to the parameters that have been set. In regards to the two new people, are we okay with giving them bigger rosters after not necessarily showcasing their talents? No offense to the new dudes, but with less that 5 posts between the two of them, I would be on the end of wanting to see something before handing over a promotion and big rosters. I like Boon's idea of the having them possibly book Alabama to see how that works. Perhaps others are in the mode of co-bookers like I did with Beast and what happened in the AWA until things get worked out. Again, nothing personal, simply food for thought.

I know we've had some discussion about consistency... and you've been a model promoter here with Memphis. You've got a fun group of individuals to work with and with the King on top, all the other pawns if you will fall into place. I particularly would like to see more of the Big Cat, but the Mid South in me continues to bleed through. I am also interested to see some teams come in against the RnR and how they will be utilized much like the RoadWarriors of the AWA. Keep doin work!

I know you may be a little behind but it seems like you changed your schedule up and it looks to be working. Like beast said, you've got a great influx of talent and it is just a matter of time before everyone finds the right spot on your roster. It is a promotion like yours that makes me want to see more of it and look forward to what you've got coming in the future. Keep doin work!

The consistency of your product has allowed me to get invested in some of these people that I had never heard of weeks ago. Much like I said with Boon, you are taking the Territory system and using it the right way and while I don't know Canada all that well, this promotion seems to be building int he right direction. The tag team divsion is a showcase of some of the best in the world and not just the Rougeaus and MXE, there is a lot going on in Montreal. Keep doin work.

MACW continues to roll and be the premiere promotion going in the project. Consistency is key and with you adapting with your schedule, the television hasn't taken a hit whatsoever. I am going to be interested to see some new faces come in and how they will be utilized in the mix here. Keep doin work!

You know how I feel about the AWA and the spectacular roster you've put together. With Hogan on top, it will be easy for things to fall right back in line where they belong for the AWA to be a powerhouse. I like seeing the Road Warriors on the top of the card as they could definitely fill that spot with some of the right players. Keep doin work.

I like to see the definition of a Territory here with Southeastern. I feel like you hold true to the Territory feel while some others try to get a little big for their britches, myself mostly. The Fullers, Golden, and Dirty Dutch against Bullet Bob and a host of other home grown stars. I would honestly like to see what Bobby Eaton would look like growing up through this promotion as a premiere babyface to go against some of these heels and bleeding all over the place to get over and find a way to come out on top. Keep doin work.

9/21 Mid South Wrestling television taping from the Civic Center in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Join Mid South Wrestling this Saturday night on WGNO for the hottest wrestling action in the country! Check out some the premiere midget wrestling action when NWA MINI CHAMPION LITTLE TOKYO takes on TIGER JACKSON! In a preview contest before the SUPERDOME EXTRAVEGANZA, STAN HANSEN takes on WILD SAMOAN AFA! THE TONGA KID makes his return to Mid South as he takes on TIGER CHUNG LEE! The Main Event sees a giant SIX-MAN TAG with TED DIBIASE, THE SHEIK, & DON MURACO taking on THE JUNKYARD DOG, BRUISER BRODY, & THUNDERBOLT PATTERSON in either the JUNKYARD DOG or TED DIBIASE'S LAST MATCH ON MID SOUTH TELEVISION! Plus, Bill Watts runs down the final card for the SUPERDOME EXTRAVENGANZA on Saturday September 24th! "COWBOY" SCOTT CASEY & NWA CANADIAN HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION RICK MARTEL also share their thoughts on their big matches in the SUPERDOME! Tune in to WGNO this Saturday for Mid South Wrestling!

WWF at Agricultural Hall in Allentown, PA (TV Taping for WWF Challenge) Your hosts are Gorilla Monsoon and Superstar Graham -Gorilla and Superstar open up the show putting over the action this week from the Boston Garden. They put over some of the big contests and say they will discuss the card for next week’s action in the Meadowlands. Jack Armstrong vs Dr. Death Steve Williams {Dr. Death continues to impress with a great win tonight. Jack Armstrong puts up a fight but the Doctor is making a house call and without a doubt he delivers. The Oklahoma Slam is all she wrote and Dr. Death continues to impress.} Fred Curry vs Mr. Fuji {A nice little showcase for Fuji tonight. Gorilla and Superstar put over the little feud with the Fantastics and say they will be in a big brawl to end it all next week in the Meadowlands. Fuji with a nasty crescent kick to finish things off. -Superstar and Gorilla talk about the Boston Garden show and talk about the big tag team showcase with Andre the Giant & Mil Mascaras taking on Brody and Hansen. We are lucky enough to see action from that contest here tonight. Andre the Giant & Mil Mascaras vs Bruiser Brody & Stan Hansen – From Boston Garden 9/20/83 {Brody and Hansen are wild men coming down to the ring. Andre then comes out to an amazing ovation from the Boston crowd who is extremely happy to see him. He steps in the ring but Brody and Hansen are on the attack. The crowd is going nuts and here comes Andre’s partner, all the way from Mexico… Mil Mascaras! Mil runs down and he goes up top and leaps off the top rope onto Brody and Hansen. This is a wild brawl as the referee is having a hard time keeping each man where they need to be. We get moment or two of actual wrestling with Mascaras in the ring but this one loses control quickly. Brody and Hansen continue to step into the ring together while Andre comes with to join Mascaras and both teams are counted out as they don’t answer the five count. This one continues to come unhinged and Andre doesn’t seem happy.} -Gorilla and Superstar discuss the Meadowlands card and run it down… WWF Live from the Meadowlands Tuesday September 27th 1983 MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Bob Backlund vs Nick Bockwinkel © WWF INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Ricky Steamboat © vs Randy Savage TEXAS TORNADO TAG TEAM Andre the Giant & Mil Mascaras vs Bruiser Brody & Stan Hansen 2/3 FALLS Jack Brisco vs Dory Funk Billy Robinson vs Ole Anderson FLAG MATCH The Fantastics vs Mr. Fuji & Tiger Chung Lee Bob Backlund vs Blackjack Lanza {A great main event for Challenge as Gorilla and Superstar put this through the roof. This is a great little contest with Lanza being a lackey for Bockwinkel but Gorilla and Superstar talk about the blood that Backlund spilled last week with Dibiase to earn his shot. Tonight Lanza is willing to break every single rule in the book but Backlund has some kind of flip switched and he is out of control. Lanza does his best to flee but Backlund pulls out a huge back suplex that crashes Lanza down right now on his neck for the 1…2…3! Gorilla and Superstar put this over in a big way and wonder what will happen when Backlund gets his hands on Bockwinkel next week.] WWF at Agricultural Hall in Fieldhouse in Hamburg, PA (TV Taping for WWF Superstars) Your hosts are Vince McMahon and Jesse Ventura Vince McMahon: Welcome everyone to WWF Superstars! I am Vince McMahon alongside Jesse the Body Ventura. Jesse, what a night of action we’ve got here this week on Superstars! Have you seen the footage from the Boston Garden this past week? Jesse Ventura: McMahon, I had my people there watching. I knew what it was all about. Vince: I don’t think we can go without talking about Bob Backlund and his hatred for Nick Bockwinkel. Well this week in the Meadowlands… he gets his shot. Jesse Ventura: I don’t know McMahon, I think he will have too much emotion. With the title on the line, Bockwinkel has got the edge! Vince: I have to disagree with you there… Jesse: Have you ever been in the ring? Vince: Not formally… Jesse: Well shows what you know… Vince: Please… fans it is time to head to the ring! The Fantastics vs Man Mountain Link & Pete Doherty {The Fantastics get a nice rub tonight and jump up on Superstars for a big contest. They have got some super fluid motion right now and without a doubt they look to be on fire. Jesse and Vince put over the big Flag match this Tuesday from the Meadowlands. Fulton and Rogers with the Rocket Launcher on Link and Fulton and Rogers have got some big things in their future. } *COMMERCIAL* -Vince and Jesse put over the Boston Garden show one more time and discuss the issue between Jack Brisco and Dory Funk Jr. they talk about how these two have got so much anger towards one another and before too long, one man must bend or break. Jack Brisco vs Baron Sciciuna {A great showcase of Jack Brisco tonight who looks to be sporting some bumps and bruises from his contest with Dory. He appears to have a small limp and Jesse says that will be what is his downfall. Jack is able to log in the figure four and the Baron has no choice but to give up. Brisco and Funk round 2 coming up this Tuesday from the Meadowlands!} *COMMERCIAL* {Superstars returns with Gorilla Monsoon doing some voiceover work putting over some of the major feuds with footage. We then cut to promos from some of the superstars…} Randy Savage: You barely walked way Steamboat… yeahhh… you had a hand full of tights and everyone knows it. that’s the only way you could have pulled me over. You held on to my tights like you held on to that title but it won’t be that way for too long… ohh no… you are looking at the next champion… yeah. You are looking at the man who is going to TAKE that title and the Meadowlands is going to watch it happen! DIG IT! Ricky Steamboat: Randy Savage, you and I have fought wars all over the WWF but it is this battle that is going to happen in the Meadowlands… it will truly be a battle to end all battles. You and I must have a winner. There will be no questions and there will only be one winner. I will do whatever it takes to keep this title and you Randy Savage, you will never be able to take what is mine! Nick Bockwinkel: Everyone seems to be worried about the announcement of myself and Bob Backlund meeting next week in the Meadowlands. I watched Mr. Backlund’s contest with Ted Dibiase. I saw that anger and hatred that be brought into that ring but it is that same hatred and anger that will be his downfall. I plan on taking Mr. Backlund to the mat, I am going to break him down from start to finish and without a doubt, I will show the world why I am the one true world heavyweight champion and unquestionably the quintessential pro in the sport of professional wrestling. Bob Backlund: The QUINTESSENTIAL PRO! BOCKWINKEL! I have talked to WWF officials and this match… this match will be the end of your time with MY TITLE! Some people have said that I have got a screw loose, that you have driven me a little crazy, but I say it is FOCUS! I am more focused now than I have EVER BEEN! I know what I want… I know what I have to do to GET IT! I look across the ring at you and I am like a bull who sees RED! I want to see that red on my hands when we’re all done but Bockwinkel… it will not be my red… it will be YOURS! It will be your RED draped over my GOLD when I walk out with the WWF TITLE! -Vince and Jesse talk about Backlund possibly losing it as he goes for the gold this week against Bockwinkel. They discuss the contest with Billy Robinson and Arn Anderson and how Robinson is looking for a tag team partner to take on the Andersons for the title. They say that there is a young man who stepped up to the challenge and his name is Bret Hart. WWF TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP Bret Hart & Billy Robinson vs Ole & Arn Anderson {Just an amazing television contest with these four guys leaving everything in the middle of the ring. Jesse and Vince put this over through the roof and say we could possibly see new tag team champions tonight. Bret and Arn do some of the beginning back and forth action while Ole and Billy come in and bring the action to another level. This one starts to turn interesting when we see Gene Anderson come out and Jesse says he is making sure his Family doesn’t lose what is rightfully theirs! Gene does serve as a distraction for Bret Hart but we catch something pretty crazy when Bret ducks a clothesline from Arn Anderson and then comes out with a huge baseball slide style kick on Gene sending him flying! This brings Ole into the ring and chaos ensues! Here comes Billy Robinson and we have got a huge brawl! Bret struck some kind of cord with that shot on Gene. The referee calls for the bell as we have a double DQ with all four men brawling. Robinson and Hart nail a pair of dropkicks and send Ole and Arn flying. They stand tall but the Andersons still have the gold. Would this happen again? Vince and Jesse put over the Meadowlands show next week and who knows what will happen with Bockwinkel and Backlund in the ring together!} WWF Live from the Meadowlands Tuesday September 27th 1983 MAIN EVENT WWF CHAMPIONSHIP Bob Backlund vs Nick Bockwinkel © WWF INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP Ricky Steamboat © vs Randy Savage TEXAS TORNADO TAG TEAM Andre the Giant & Mil Mascaras vs Bruiser Brody & Stan Hansen 2/3 FALLS Jack Brisco vs Dory Funk Billy Robinson vs Ole Anderson FLAG MATCH The Fantastics vs Mr. Fuji & Tiger Chung Lee